I also find it amusing that many of you have degenerated to saying

"you're just stupid."

Lol, it's like being in elementary school again!

I don't think you are stupid, by the way. And I appreciate your eloquent arguments, when they exist.

5/20/2011 12:17:18 AM

She's dead....he's in jail...LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!

5/20/2011 12:17:40 AM

LOLOLOL

You must be smarter that 12 selfish and impatient to the point they're dumb people

5/20/2011 12:17:52 AM

Oh, I appreciate posts that are grounded in fact, instead of conjecture and what-ifs and emotion. You've offered no facts to support the assertion that Brad Cooper is guilty. Just "I felt it in my gut"--which is the majority of the testimony offered by the prosecution.

5/20/2011 12:18:26 AM

Yes, please lock it. The thread about the NCCU graduation speech is much more entertaining at this point.

5/20/2011 12:18:49 AM

you're lucky you're posting this bullshit after midnight

you'd have about 19 more pages of people reminding you how much of a sheep you are if you posted it during the day

5/20/2011 12:19:55 AM

^^^ Who would randomly murder a slut, without raping or robbing her?...oh yea the husband that she's been fucking over. Honestly she got what was coming to her. And now he will get whats coming to him. Case closed

^^ Yes the guy stealing his graduation speech is more entertaining that 100+ pages of arguing over nothing. She dead, he did it..now stfu!!!!

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:21 AM. Reason : ]

5/20/2011 12:20:04 AM

get the fuck outta here

5/20/2011 12:20:39 AM

^^Again, no proof she wasn't raped. And how about the lover she was hitting up for child support? Or the millionaire in Canada she was getting back together with?

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:21 AM. Reason : ]

5/20/2011 12:21:13 AM

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"You've offered no facts to support the assertion that Brad Cooper is guilty. Just "I felt it in my gut""

No, I never said I "felt it in my gut." Sorry. What I found to be the most plausible evidence all adds up to him being guilty.

When you are on a jury (maybe you've already served, and I do hope you get that opportunity since you express such zeal for judicial matters) you will find that all trials are filled with diversions by the defense and suggestions that are just not plausible.

5/20/2011 12:22:44 AM

I'm out...I'll let you experts get back to work.

Quote :

"Your Honor....HE DID IT!"

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:24 AM. Reason : .]

5/20/2011 12:22:49 AM

^^Please point out factual evidence that connects him to the murder, since it's not all based on conjecture. And as an attorney, I won't ever serve on a jury. I fancy I know a little more about a defense strategy than you do.

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:24 AM. Reason : ]

5/20/2011 12:23:47 AM

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"Or the millionaire in Canada she was getting back together with? "

You're right. The millionaire in Canada did it. I stand corrected.

5/20/2011 12:24:22 AM

because the defense are the only ones that throw out diversions from the actual facts of the case

5/20/2011 12:24:24 AM

^^^Yes I agree that the case was built on circumstantial evidence, which is still evidence.

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:25 AM. Reason : Add another ^]

5/20/2011 12:25:06 AM

I believe the defense, and their witnesses, were the only ones who didn't lie in this case. Freaking Boz lied a DOZEN times in his closing alone.

^I'm asking you to specify. Unless you're taking the route the prosecution did. "He lied I tell you, I won't point it out specifically, but he did lie, I promise."

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:26 AM. Reason : ]

5/20/2011 12:25:26 AM

Your entire argument is that it had to be the husband because her neck was broken, her earring wasn't removed and they couldn't rule out rape.

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:26 AM. Reason : .]

5/20/2011 12:25:45 AM

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"...filled with diversions by the defense prosecution and suggestions that are just not plausible."

5/20/2011 12:26:03 AM

No one in this thread would be defending the dude if he had gotten a fair trial and been convicted, but the evidence is OVERWHELMING that he did not do it.


Furthermore, there's the whole issue of "statistics"


Statistics say that Baseball player X bats 1.000 on rainy thursdays..... until he doesn't.

Statistics say that joggers who are killed are almost never strangled to death..... until they are.

Statistics are great when you're talking about a series of things, and you're trying to build evidence of a trend or a pattern. You're not talking about a series of things here. You're talking about one dude, on trial for the murder of his wife. You're talking about one dude, who all of the evidence points away from.




Columbo Generation? CSI generation? Seriously? That is the weakest shit I've ever had the displeasure of reading.


They used to take months to sail across the Atlantic ocean in wooden ships to get to the "New World." Now it takes hours to fly across in an airplane. Why should I be bound to trust the old way? Just because it's the old way? Fuck that. The evidence that this man did not kill his wife is overwhelming in stature, and for you to sit there and gloss it over makes you just as fucking shameful and tactless as the CPD and the Wake County DA's office.

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:29 AM. Reason : .]

5/20/2011 12:27:14 AM

jadn luv

5/20/2011 12:28:25 AM

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"you're lucky you're posting this bullshit after midnight you'd have about 19 more pages of people reminding you how much of a sheep you are if you posted it during the day"

Hmmm, too bad I didn't post during the day, then. A strong ability to control crowds is one of the the reasons I get paid the big bucks.

By the way, you personally have posted nothing to move my opinion one iota.

5/20/2011 12:28:50 AM

Why would the guys she's leaving her husband for kill her?...damn I shoulda payed attention to this case...Heated Argument ITT

5/20/2011 12:29:03 AM

OLD CODGER POSTING IN THIS THREAD BRAGGING ABOUT BEING AN OLD CODGER AND HAVING AN UNSHAKABLE WRONG OPINION




SOMEBODY COME GET JOHN MCCAIN PLEASE

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:31 AM. Reason : cant argue with brick walls or idiot old people]

5/20/2011 12:30:23 AM

Get back to me when you've actually seen an episode of Columbo.

5/20/2011 12:31:21 AM

Oh hey, yet another middle aged woman things Brad Cooper killed a middle aged woman.

Consider me shocked.

5/20/2011 12:31:25 AM

nothing I've said has been written to move your opinion

you control crowds by showing up when they're not around?

5/20/2011 12:32:43 AM

Get back to me when you are able to reasonably separate fact from conjecture and postulation





It's always nice when I see that age increases, but intellectual capacity does not.

5/20/2011 12:32:52 AM

THATS NO WAY TO TALK TO YOUR MOM

5/20/2011 12:33:20 AM

And I really wish she would respond with facts physically connecting him to the murder.

I want to test my Cooper trivia. Maybe they'll come out with a game one day. I will permanently claim the Rosemary Zednick playing piece.

But alas, if she ever responds to the challenge, I will have to argue more tomorrow, because it is time to go to bed and dream of Cooper trivia night.

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:37 AM. Reason : ]

5/20/2011 12:34:08 AM

seriously?

Do we need to be reminded that I am in fact the love child of Rosemary?

5/20/2011 12:37:01 AM

goodness gracious, I love this Beethoven lady

5/20/2011 12:39:50 AM

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"Your entire argument is that it had to be the husband because her neck was broken, her earring wasn't removed and they couldn't rule out rape."

There's that and the ugly divorce, which he did not want, where he was sure to get stuck paying a tidy sum for spousal and child support. He was a control freak. He took the daughters' passports. He didn't want to lose his daughters. (Yes, I know some of you dispute paternity; fine, whatever, he still was functioning as their father and loved both girls.) Being strangled does point to the husband.

No, I'm not saying that every divorcing husband kills his wife, but when relationships go sour, men have been known to off women. I can think of many examples of this, and no examples of random outdoor stranglings. Can you give me some?

5/20/2011 12:41:56 AM

inorite

I too am gonna hit the bed so I can get up and control the daytime crowds....that requires sleep since they're actually a crowd

OMG ONLY HUSBANDS STRANGLE INDOORS....you heard it here

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 12:43 AM. Reason : e]

5/20/2011 12:42:09 AM

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"Get back to me when you are able to reasonably separate fact from conjecture and postulation"

Brad Cooper's Defense closing statement ITT.

5/20/2011 12:44:04 AM

^ +1 internet

5/20/2011 12:45:32 AM

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"OMG ONLY HUSBANDS STRANGLE INDOORS"

Not true; the Boston Strangler strangled indoors. But he got the nickname because he was unusual. And he strangled a bunch of ladies, but not random joggers.

Sweet dreams.

5/20/2011 12:46:35 AM

my bad

STRANGULATION ONLY HAPPENS INDOORS

ok I can sleep better now that I've said something completely retarded...goodnight

5/20/2011 12:47:51 AM

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"There's that and the ugly divorce, which he did not want, where he was sure to get stuck paying a tidy sum for spousal and child support. He was a control freak. He took the daughters' passports. He didn't want to lose his daughters. (Yes, I know some of you dispute paternity; fine, whatever, he still was functioning as their father and loved both girls.) Being strangled does point to the husband. "

How can you even link him taking their passports to him strangling his wife? I would take my kids' passports too if I were scared of my wife leaving the country with them, but that doesn't automatically make someone a murderer.


Jesus the dumb in your posts is overwhelming.

5/20/2011 12:55:25 AM

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"circumstantial evidence conjecture"

Fixed.

5/20/2011 1:13:13 AM

It's a sad sad sad day in this country when statistics and people that watch Colombo can send a guy to jail for life. Let's not bother with trying to convict on reliable witness's or evidence.


Hell. If this was a generation of CSI watching jurors on this trial there's NO way they find him guilty with the bullshit the prosecution tied to pass off.


Feed on troll. Feed on.

5/20/2011 7:14:09 AM

i went to bed and missed the fun.

5/20/2011 8:36:29 AM

I'm wondering if anyone who watched the Father Dowling Mysteries would care to comment as I feel that may be an untapped area of insight.

Plus, from what I remember, that nun was on-point in her faith based police work.

5/20/2011 8:44:22 AM

^^^ I wonder if that was a question from the prosecution in jury selection.

5/20/2011 8:48:08 AM

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"en. I can think of many examples of this, and no examples of random outdoor stranglings. "

When I was in high school, a jogger was attacked and strangled by a stranger while jogging around Lake Lynn. The only reason she survived was her dog began attacking the guy's leg, giving her a chance to break free and run for help. If I remember correctly that dog really fucked up that asshole's leg.

5/20/2011 9:35:59 AM

^ Bet he was trying to rape her. There is always motive in a murder.

5/20/2011 9:37:40 AM

Bet that jogger was fucking 9 other dudes besides the attacker.

5/20/2011 9:39:13 AM

It's been really interesting to follow this thread and see the perspective of people who are younger than me (I dub thee, honorably, the "TV courtroom drama generation.")

For the TV courtroom drama generation, evidence includes sophisticated scientific methods such as zooming, enhancing, witnesses confessing to the crime after cracking under the pressure of a flawless cross examination, guest star appearances, unhandleable truths, and shocking twist endings. It is understandable that you would consider the lack of these things "unrealistic."

Scroll your mind back 110-120 years now to a generation who I am going to call the "Sherlock Holmes generation." For many members of the Sherlock Holmes generation, all this newfangled imagery is suspicious. For the Holmes generation imagination is primarily important. They had to be entertained by fiction that wasn't heavily steeped in sex appeal and ultra violence. Patience was their virtue as they slogged their way through each and every fictitious case page by page, not from commercial break to commercial break.

Get back to me when you've solved cases involving spectral canines. Good day kind madame.

5/20/2011 9:41:24 AM

^ WINNER

5/20/2011 9:42:31 AM

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"UN HANDLEABLE TRUTHS"

5/20/2011 9:44:17 AM

I find it really bizarre to be willing to convict someone with the death penalty because, "I've never heard of this sort of criminal act happening before, therefore it's a bullshit defense." I hope to God I never find myself being wrongly prosecuted knowing that could be going through the minds of jurors.

[Edited on May 20, 2011 at 9:46 AM. Reason : Y]

5/20/2011 9:45:30 AM