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"I just want to see what sweet rides MICHAEL JORDAN'S RPM NISSAN was giving out to athletes...."

my husband used to work there.....far more duke athletes than unc athletes

6/16/2011 9:40:11 AM

per WRAL

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"The University of North Carolina has released thousands of pages of phone and parking records related to the investigation into the football program. "

6/16/2011 10:12:18 AM

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"accnow ACC Now From #UNC docs today: from 3/2007 to 8/2010, UNC football players racked up 395 citations for more than $13,000. Request was for 11 players."

wow

6/16/2011 10:15:07 AM

6/16/2011 10:16:21 AM

^^ I saw that and was like .

6/16/2011 10:17:15 AM

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"RT @ghostOFjimmyV: So thus far we know that Curtis Media group is in the tank for UNC , who else gets exposed ?"

Any clue on what this means?

6/16/2011 10:18:11 AM

iop146

6/16/2011 10:19:28 AM

6/16/2011 10:19:35 AM

^^^

From Don Curtis http://www.wralsportsfan.com/asset/colleges/unc/2010/12/17/8793411/082710_Great_job_last_night.pdf

"And Now an Offer:
Perhaps a one hour program on the our discussing the whole compliance problem facing all schools....Perhaps involving Yow From State, Dick From Carolina, and maybe a third. Such a program would focus on the problem of compliance with the current situation used as just an example of how difficult it is to manage. We have 72 stations acorss the state. Program couid be taped, rather than live. Would not involved listener call ins. Host of Pro ram would not be investigating but rather conducting a interview on compliance issues and programs. stations reach 1.2 Million North Carolinans....this is more than the combined circulation of Charlotte, Raleigh, and Greensboro Dailies, As hot a issue as this is, (think we could get clearance on all of the top News/Talk, and sports talk stations as well."

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 10:20 AM. Reason : ^^^]

6/16/2011 10:19:49 AM

Ahh, it's good to get back to this thread's roots.

6/16/2011 10:22:10 AM

Is that the station that airs their games? 106.1 or whatever?

6/16/2011 10:24:34 AM

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/asset/colleges/unc/2011/06/16/9736905/Parking_Tickets.pdf

Land Rover, BMW, Acura... and lots of NISSANS...

Oh, and

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"bylinerp Robbi Pickeral for the 11 RT @BaxterCavendish: @bylinerp just to clarify, is that 395 citations for the 11 players or is that program as a whole?"

So if that PDF is just 11 players worth, some of them have been switching up they whips over the past few years.

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM. Reason : ...]

6/16/2011 10:24:55 AM

^^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Media

they own a lot of radio stations in NC

6/16/2011 10:27:34 AM

lol half of these are for parking at or around the stadium, these boys can't get permits for there?

6/16/2011 10:35:36 AM

whoever is the driver of the BMW with plates RTV5111 had a rough 8/20 - 9/17. Racked up 8 tickets in this time period

so, I havent been keeping up with this as much as I shouldve. Are these unpaid parking tickets? What is the real importance of all this stuff - is the university covering the tickets up or is it a bigger issue with possible vehicle lending violations similar to Ohio State?

I'm just wondering if this is really as big of a deal as we would like it to be

6/16/2011 10:37:48 AM

I got three parking tickets in a week at NCSU once. Forgot I parked at a parking meter and left my car there for two days. I can't believe it wasn't towed.

6/16/2011 10:40:48 AM

^^ I have a hard time believing that these 11 kids paid $13k over three years

6/16/2011 10:42:17 AM

Yeah I got 3 $10 tickets in 2.5 hours leaving the car in the harris lot once

6/16/2011 10:42:44 AM

^^^^ Im guessing the guys didnt pony up what averages out to over a grand a piece for all this and those are some pretty fancy rides. Looks pretty juicy to me.

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ^]

6/16/2011 10:43:45 AM

Yeah a key piece of information is "did they pay these fines?" I would say no based on how many fines these guys racked up. If you can show that UNC was "taking care" of these tickets for them, watch out.

6/16/2011 10:47:51 AM

should be interesting to see what comes out of this...

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 11:01 AM. Reason : ]

6/16/2011 10:57:15 AM

@DerekRowles #UNC Blake Phone Records .. basics: 372 Calls to Wichard in 2009, 120 Calls to Wichard in 2010

6/16/2011 11:07:22 AM

^Thing to remember too is he was only on the company phone for half of 2010 before getting canned

6/16/2011 11:08:41 AM

there are 27 unique license plates for no more than 11 players, plus:

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"@accnow: #UNC has issued "Parking Ticket Background" stating that not all 11 players received tickets"

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"@accnow: UNC says it reviewed the pking tix , and it showed each car receiving a tick. was reg. to the student, parent, grandparent or fellow student"

suuuuuuuure

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 11:21 AM. Reason : ]

6/16/2011 11:20:22 AM

6/16/2011 11:22:22 AM

28 Different cars from my count:

# Plate Make Color
1.) WRZ3388 Ford Gray
2.) WWD6089 GM Gray/Tan
3.) WSJ8620 Olds Black
4.) RTV6111 BMW Green
5.) 1dcg50 Nissan Gray
6.) TYE5390 Acura Black
7.) MNP2592 Ford Blue
8.) XZW9689 Nissan Gray
10.) XSW4084 Land R Black
11.) XWA3593 Linc Silver
12.) 15733908 Nissan Gray
13.) H2411192 Dodge Gray
14.) 1542BC Dodge Blue
15.) YRF5021 Olds Brown
16.) SW3UNC16 Nissan Black
17.) YYH6920 Chevy Purple
18.) YWS5599 Dodge Gray
19.) EVR681 Ford Red
20) XXM9081 Ford Gray
21.) 2EZ4ME Chevy Maroon
22.) YSN9869 Dodge Red
23.) YWR7330 Chevy Yellow
24.) ZSP8380 Chevy Black
25.) ZRZ6581 Land R Silver
26.) ZWY2601 Chevy Blue
27.) 16911471 Dodge Gray
28.) WXB5184 Honda Black

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 11:33 AM. Reason : 16911]

6/16/2011 11:28:00 AM

From IC

Quote :

"I don't know about everyone else, but I know that when I was in school I averaged 5-10 tickets per year."

These guys are trying to rationalize everything

6/16/2011 11:30:14 AM

Ovies says all the vehicles are legit

6/16/2011 11:37:50 AM

even with that justification, 395 tickets split up between 11 people is just under 36 tickets a piece

6/16/2011 11:41:40 AM

he's just repeating what UNC said

6/16/2011 11:42:25 AM

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"Ovies says all the vehicles are legit"

correction, Ovies says that UNC says all the cars are legit

6/16/2011 11:42:34 AM

Yeah sorry just saw the most recent tweets

6/16/2011 11:45:29 AM

its not 11 players, it's less than 11

so some multiple-car-ing going on

6/16/2011 11:46:23 AM

Purple Chevy is an 86 monte carlo, going from the VIN

6/16/2011 11:48:33 AM

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"@LukeDeCock: Even if the citations only exist in electronic form, there's info missing. The names, for example. Order states there's no FERPA protection."

6/16/2011 11:50:35 AM

here's the way i clearly see it playing out...

the parking tickets are a cover. registered legitimately, the tickets are paid by boosters & coaches who actually dump the money into a slush fund (>$13,000 into a hidden reserve), which Chapel Hill PD dispenses into brown paper bags marked "Marvin's Lunch" hidden in predetermined locations as follows:

1) Players (the bar)- back right zebra print round table, ducttaped under table top
2) the P2P drunk shuttle
3) Marvin Austin's fat ass
4) the massive butt crevice formed between Marvin Austin's left and right boob

6/16/2011 11:52:48 AM

Would names ordinarily be in a ticket though? If you get a ticket on campus, they don't know who they're giving the ticket to right? They just write it up.

6/16/2011 11:53:32 AM

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"Purple Chevy is an 86 monte carlo, going from the VIN"

ice cream paint job marvin, not actual ice cream

6/16/2011 11:55:52 AM

Quote :

"they don't know who they're giving the ticket to right?"

somebody knows that they're football players

6/16/2011 11:56:32 AM

^^^Yeah but the ticket would be tied to the registered owner of the vehicle. So if it goes unpaid they know who to go get the money from.

Also, NCAA knows which athletes have registered which cars so even if we can't match this up the investigators should be able to see if there are any discrepancies with what is registered and what is seen here.

EDIT: Also even though you can't match a license # to a person through DMV records a violation should be a matter of public record like any other crime or violation.

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 12:01 PM. Reason : can't type]

6/16/2011 11:57:05 AM

parking tickets are weak at best. i want to see the BUTCH DAVIS & JIM TRESSEL COLLUSION article.

6/16/2011 11:58:52 AM

Ah yeah true. I was just thinking that with public records requests, the government body isn't required to create a new document if the data already, so the names wouldn't ordinarily be in whatever spreadsheet they printed up for that list. In this case I guess they may have to create a new doc if the judge specifically ordered that the names and such come out.

6/16/2011 12:00:31 PM

^^ We have yet to hear anything regarding butch's phone records which should also be part of this

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 12:01 PM. Reason : slowpoke]

6/16/2011 12:00:35 PM

^^^ the tickets themselves aren't the issue, it's finding out who owns the cars that athletes drive and how they got them, which has gotten OSU in a lot of trouble

6/16/2011 12:01:54 PM

Marvin got multiple tattoos of a variety of cupcakes between Sept 2010-Nov 2010, records show.

6/16/2011 12:05:25 PM

Quote :

"UNC says it reviewed the pking tix , and it showed each car receiving a tick. was reg. to the student, parent, grandparent or fellow student"

Question: Is driving a car of a fellow student a violation? I know for instance you couldn't go driving a booster's car around.

Not to say I think you should hem players up for borrowing the car of a guy in the dorm for instance but is it a violation?

6/16/2011 12:05:31 PM

what if the fellow student is a 60 year old who happens to own a car dealership

6/16/2011 12:06:53 PM

Quote :

"I know, register the booster's car to a "fellow student" and let the player drive it!"

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 12:08 PM. Reason : ...]

6/16/2011 12:08:14 PM

3 VIN numbers on 28 vehicles? Anybody got access to some free VIN histories? Probably nothing there since only 3 are provided..oh well

6/16/2011 12:10:51 PM

http://www.decodethis.com/ maybe?

6/16/2011 12:12:40 PM