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"That means one player drove 8 different cars."

I would also assume that all the items are tied together by who the car is registered to, so it might not just be that they drove 8 different cars but that 8 different cars were at one point registered to one entity. This might also be why some of these items weren't paid off since any notifications or payment requests went to who the car was registered to and not the driver.

6/16/2011 3:01:49 PM

scandalgate

6/16/2011 3:01:54 PM

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"If the reporters can't figure that simple bit of info out on their own, then lord help us."

I mean as NC State students/alumni its our duty to do what we can to ensure that UNC is fucked over

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 3:02 PM. Reason : lkj]

6/16/2011 3:02:12 PM

i was thinking maybe one car was sold 7 different times and re-registered every time, but i could be wrong

but i assumed the VIN was tied to all the plates so i dunno

6/16/2011 3:02:46 PM

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"Can we go ahead and stop attaching "gate" to the end of every scandal?"

You can't stop tradition.

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 3:04 PM. Reason : .]

6/16/2011 3:04:16 PM

repost for page 148:

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"Been doing a little looking around their ticketing system and when you type 7 of those plates in, it responds with "The following violation(s) were found for the information you entered as well as any other license plates on your record." YWS5599, RTV6111, TYE5390, XZW9689, H2411192, WXB5184, and YYH6920 all have tickets under their plate in the car with LP 16911471 which is the 2006 Dodge Charger (VIN# 2B3KA43G56H241192) What could this mean? "

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .]

6/16/2011 3:05:07 PM

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"Well all the cars aren't tied together, but they are all tied to the 16911471... Seems like that Charger was a lender to me..."

Pretty easy to understand here. Type in any of those license plate numbers. Every one of them comes up with the same offenses. (See the Land Rovers' LPs for an example of this)


This means that 8 different vehicles were registered to ONE specific account/user/parking violator.

Observe this verbiage:

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"The following violation(s) were found for the information you entered as well as any other license plates on your record. Select the citations you would like to pay and click "Next""

This translates to:


You entered stuff for car A, but here's all the stuff on Car A, B, C, D, E, F, and G registered to you as well.

6/16/2011 3:07:17 PM

well well well...that's just a tad bit shady

6/16/2011 3:08:04 PM

I regularly roll in 8 different cars I mean who doesnt?

I sure hope we find they were all registered to none other than BMFD!

6/16/2011 3:10:26 PM

TWITTER UPDATE

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"@accnow At least 22 of the 395 citations were issued to a vehicle driven by Greg Little, a former #UNC wide receiver. bit.ly/j8mNzT @accnow At least 10 of the 395 citations were issued to a vehicle driven by Bruce Carter, a former #UNC linebacker. bit.ly/j8mNzT @ArmstrongWTVD Black Land Rover with most tickets has 24 outstanding for payment according to UNC system website. http://tinyurl.com/5wyo33q @ArmstrongWTVD Just from a cursory crosscheck of these parking tickets - there are many more than the 395 listed in the documents provided "

6/16/2011 3:11:32 PM

^4 No I understand what the database is doing. I'm just saying that XZW9689 is not tied directly to RTV6111, but they are both tied to the Charger.

So I would think there are 8 individuals here that all drove the Charger at one point in time... no?

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 3:13 PM. Reason : .]

6/16/2011 3:12:31 PM

Denial, not just a river in Egypt

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"but there's nothing shady here. just normal, routine college kid stuff."

6/16/2011 3:15:09 PM

i mean i got like 3 or 4 tickets at State, but how did all of these football players rack up these tickets? it tells me that:

A)they're fucking morons who don't learn their lesson
B)they parked wherever they wanted because they knew any ticket would be taken care of
C) both A and B

6/16/2011 3:16:24 PM

Ovies just said on air that one car (Same VIN) had two tickets with two different license plates within 48hrs

6/16/2011 3:36:31 PM

What I still don't understand is how UNC is attributing tickets to players when they are driving someone else's car. Someone on twitter, ErinSummers I think, reported that one of the Dodges was registered to Greg Little's dad, I know when I got a ticket at UNC in a car registered to my dad they sent the bill to him. Someone explain this to me.

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 3:38 PM. Reason : not Dinnich]

6/16/2011 3:37:44 PM

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"@ArmstrongWTVD Working through the violations/plates, there are a large number of unpaid violations, many of which don't correspond w/ the records provided"

6/16/2011 3:38:34 PM

^what does that mean? doesn't sound good for UNC if I am reading that correctly.

6/16/2011 3:40:39 PM

^ Well in theory you can't enroll for classes if you have unpaid fines. So then how did these guys stay academically eligible if they weren't paying their fines and therefore enrolling in classes?

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM. Reason : ...]

6/16/2011 3:42:21 PM

UNC probably doesn't realize that the Division of Motor Vehicles can disprove their doctored and redacted spreadsheets

6/16/2011 3:42:48 PM

presumably they could be held in contempt for this sort of nonsense unfortunately its a lot harder to punish an organization than person for refusing to follow court orders

6/16/2011 3:43:08 PM

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" there are many more than the 395 listed in the documents provided"

thats contempt of court right there. not providing all the information they had to release.

6/16/2011 3:47:17 PM

dammit, i have to go work for an hour or two, i wish i could just sit here and follow twitter feeds all afternoon

6/16/2011 3:49:42 PM

Gold and Ovies killing it here.

6/16/2011 3:53:02 PM

so far the summary is..

they released a spreadsheet style summary, not the tickets themselves.

11 or less players accumulated 400 tickets over a year period or so.

some are STILL unpaid.

players with unpaid tickets we assume still are enrolled which is against university policy and therefore preferential treatment to players.

numerous cars have been given tickets with the same license plate #

they havent released the phone records, just total minutes

UNC is in deep doo doo

6/16/2011 3:54:15 PM

^ I doubt it

I have no information or evidence as to why they wouldn't be but I just have a sneaking suspicion.

6/16/2011 4:03:19 PM

this day at work has been long...this thread has really helped get me through.

6/16/2011 4:04:41 PM

This is making my very hectic work day much better

6/16/2011 4:07:37 PM

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"ErinESummers Gray dodge charger registered to Greg Little's dad, 1 of the cars that's cited, the VIN # of car is associated with 3 diff plates cited #UNC"

hmmm, that's odd

6/16/2011 4:08:05 PM

This is getting good

6/16/2011 4:08:38 PM

Those dumbass tarhole fans STILL don't get that this is more than just a few innocent parking tickets.

6/16/2011 4:10:08 PM

Radio caller:

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"Since when is it illegal to own a car?"

6/16/2011 4:10:53 PM

WRAL.com:

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"The VIN number associated with the car registered to the Little family is also listed as the VIN number for three other license plate numbers that received parking tickets. The car with that VIN number got at least 16 tickets. Tickets were issued to that VIN number with three different license plates, including one 24-period where it got two tickets and had two different plates"

6/16/2011 4:11:40 PM

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"@ArmstrongWTVD Another vehicle - a Red Dodge, shows 17 unpaid tickets"

6/16/2011 4:12:00 PM

^^^^I don't understand the implication she's making.

6/16/2011 4:13:24 PM

6/16/2011 4:13:52 PM

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 4:18 PM. Reason : wtf]

6/16/2011 4:14:42 PM

So they were switching plates on and off the same car? What the hell is going on

6/16/2011 4:17:34 PM

Fail

6/16/2011 4:17:45 PM

Wow. One UNC player accrued 93 parking tickets under 9 license plate numbers between Oct 07 & Aug 09.

http://www.dailytarheel.com/index.php/article/2011/06/database_unc_football_player_got_93_parking_tickets

So, is it possible that not all 11 players got tickets? So maybe only 5 or 6 players got all of the tickets?

^^Please shop MA's face on that gif.

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 4:22 PM. Reason : 2]

6/16/2011 4:18:32 PM

Surely the basketball players have been getting the same benefits as the football team...

6/16/2011 4:19:31 PM

^x5 EPIC LULZ

6/16/2011 4:20:34 PM

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"were issued to that VIN number with three different license plates, including one 24-period where it got two tickets and had two different plates"

i'm not following what's going on here. why would they keep switching plates? can someone explain?

6/16/2011 4:21:45 PM

^^^^UNC released a statement that not all of the 11 players in question had received tickets... So it's 28 cars for < 11 players

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 4:22 PM. Reason : .]

6/16/2011 4:21:49 PM

I suck at making gifs.

Where is the reasoning for that many tickets? You have to try to get that many.

6/16/2011 4:22:07 PM

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" i'm not following what's going on here. why would they keep switching plates? can someone explain?"

dealer tags perhaps??

with the magnet so you can switch on and off.

6/16/2011 4:27:01 PM

^ok. but why would they put different dealer plates on the same car in one day, a car owned by Little's dad?

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 4:29 PM. Reason : oops, i may have made-up the part about that particular car being little's dad's]

6/16/2011 4:28:28 PM

So when they create the ticket and run the tags, shouldn't it be registered for the corresponding car?

6/16/2011 4:28:58 PM

If those guys were taking their license tags off car A (which it was registerred to) and putting them on cars B, C, and D, I think that would be a legal issue. Also, if the parking meter maid when issuing a citation types in the tag number and "2009 dodge charger" yet the car the tag is on is a Nissan, uh, that's kind of a hint hint to turn that over to your superior(s) for legal purposes.

it would be impossible to get away with that in a normal town, most police at idol stoplights just enter in tag numbers in front of them to see if the car they are looking at is the same as the car that pops up on their computers. How a lot of shady stuff gets solved.

edit- ah, dealer tags, that's another aspect I hadn't thought about....butt hat's going to open another can of worms when multiple players have cars from the same dealership as loaners.

[Edited on June 16, 2011 at 4:31 PM. Reason : .]

6/16/2011 4:29:10 PM

Quote :

"butt hat's"

sorry, had to do it

6/16/2011 4:35:24 PM

bunch of butt hat's driving different cars

6/16/2011 4:37:12 PM