who's the retard now. that photo is all over TWW WITHOUT the stupid watermark in the top right corner.

4/26/2008 10:01:37 AM

4/26/2008 10:03:19 AM

internet: serious business.

ask del nacho if you can join the club. he tried recruiting me via PM's

4/26/2008 10:16:57 AM

yessa massa - I'ma gonna look all over teh wolf web instead of using da google image search next time

4/26/2008 10:18:22 AM

its ok, you're retarded, boy.

4/26/2008 10:23:59 AM

that retard picture has like a 50-page photoshop thread too

4/26/2008 10:24:08 AM

dude you get so heated about everything...try relaxing

4/26/2008 10:29:39 AM

quick... everyone in this thread go masturbate!!!

4/26/2008 10:31:15 AM

^^LOL. i guess that went waaaaay over your head. relax, dude.

4/26/2008 10:36:06 AM

goddamn you faggots need to shut the fuck up

Quote :

"LOL http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/827005/grand-theft-auto-iv/videos/lcgunclub_041108.html"

that was pretty fuckin' funny

4/26/2008 11:36:24 AM

Is there any way to make it so that the camera doesn't affect your character?

Like, if you're walking forward any rotate the camera, it also affects your movement and I can't seem to find a menu option to turn that off.

4/26/2008 1:44:52 PM

^Isn't that how the controls for every 3rd person shooter behaves? I can't imagine why you would want to change it.

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I swear to Christ they got Amsterdam718 to write the dialog for the emails from Brucie.

4/26/2008 3:02:28 PM

No, generally you can move the camera without if affecting the character.

Basically, if I'm trying to drive straight and want look a little off to the right, it shouldn't make me go off to the right. I prefer more of an omniscient camera than a if-you're-looking-here-go-here type camera.

It really fucks me up while driving, especially backing up. Then again, I'm probably done with the game for good at this point, so it's kind of moot point.

4/26/2008 3:18:37 PM

should have went with the ps3 version

4/26/2008 3:26:55 PM

Quote :

"Basically, if I'm trying to drive straight and want look a little off to the right, it shouldn't make me go off to the right."

I agree.

Thankfully it doesn't do that.

4/26/2008 4:11:26 PM

lol, new hooker animations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O51l7S7Sx3g

4/26/2008 10:37:35 PM

Just in case anyone was wondering, you get 2 things for pulling off a back flip on a motorcycle. Jack. and shit.

It was still pretty badass though. I was getting chased by the cops out by the airport. Had 4 stars. I hit a rock just right, flew up in the air and did a perfect flip and kept going.

This game needs instant replay.

4/27/2008 1:14:54 AM

Quote :

"I agree. Thankfully it doesn't do that."

Yeah, apparently not, or at least not in the way I was describing it. I was having a lot of trouble with it earlier where left was no longer left due to camera position or something like that.

I mean, I suck at games though, so it's no big deal.

[Edited on April 27, 2008 at 1:39 AM. Reason : .]

4/27/2008 1:25:47 AM

Well the camera does behave the way you were describing when on foot. Much like Oblivion, Mass Effect, or pretty much so any 3rd person shooter I can think of.

But in the car the camera is exactly like PGR3 as opposed to say, the warthog in Halo.

4/27/2008 1:36:18 AM

the car camera makes my head hurt. i have to hold the right analog back a little so it angles downwards a little bit.

4/27/2008 9:38:18 AM

i played probably 7 hrs of it so far, the camera angle on the car is pretty annoying, the physics are over-exaggerated and the cops are pretty stupid

they need to increase the cop difficulty but reduce the number of cops, similar to real life perhaps? You can go 100mph thru a red light and brush into the side of the cop car before he'll sound the alarm. You have to smash into him or carjack someone nearby to get his attention

the game play is fun i guess, same shit as all the other 3D GTA's

4/27/2008 11:23:15 AM

Quote :

"the physics are over-exaggerated and the cops are pretty stupid "

Isn't that how GTA is suppose to be?

You don't want to worry about cops busting you for traffic violations and stuff like that.

4/27/2008 11:29:24 AM

36 more hours...

4/27/2008 12:47:22 PM

just pre-ordered it from gamestop for midnight release....can't wait.

4/27/2008 1:32:41 PM

Yeah I think that's the way to go - dude at GS said they'd only have like, 20-30 copies available for general sales

[Edited on April 27, 2008 at 1:41 PM. Reason : .]

4/27/2008 1:40:36 PM

Kotaku says that the 360 has better framerate and better AA, and that the PS3 has muddier image quality albeit some father drawing distance. So it looks like they can't really agree on specific points, which leads me to believe it's not actually "better" any any platform, just "different".

Little nugget for those trumping up the PS3 version from IGN's review. There are many voices in a crowd.

4/27/2008 1:57:54 PM

Seriously, the game is amazing on the 360. I'm sure it will be amazing on the PS3. Can we just drop it at this point? Even I'm tired of this shit.

4/27/2008 2:03:02 PM

Quote :

"Kotaku says that the 360 has better framerate and better AA"

That's not what they say.

Quote :

"The two versions are so close to identical, visually, that putting together a comparison was a challenge. Initially, it appeared that the PS3 suffered from more noticeable aliasing than its 360 counterpart, but after eyeballing the final retail copy, they appear to be on par."

4/27/2008 2:03:54 PM

Seriously, the game is amazing on the 360. I'm sure it will be amazing on the PS3. Can we just drop it at this point? Even I'm tired of this shit.

4/27/2008 2:06:31 PM

seriously

Every review that compares the versions says they're virtually identical with minor differences that don't really effect the game.

4/27/2008 2:09:01 PM

Don't refute me son or i'll chuck a sloppy joe at your face.

I'm not trying to start a fight, honestly. I think the console warz are stupid as shit. Although these comments predicate the WARZ, there's a difference in talking legitimate differences in the game vs. OMG CONSOLE WARZ. So long as no one takes it to such an asinine level then we are ok.

Quote :

"The Xbox 360 version seemed capable of achieving a smoother frame rate, peaking higher in certain circumstances, such as in confined spaces or during light traffic"

[Edited on April 27, 2008 at 2:11 PM. Reason : 123]

4/27/2008 2:10:49 PM

I'm just happy I'll be playing that bitch in less than 34 hours...regardless of which console it'll be for

4/27/2008 2:40:29 PM

i heard the PS3 version was delayed 1 week.

4/27/2008 2:58:38 PM

^ what system are you for?

4/27/2008 2:59:32 PM

FUUUUUUUUUUCK

I need to stop reading these reviews, it's making all my current games really really dull.

[Edited on April 27, 2008 at 3:02 PM. Reason : .]

4/27/2008 3:01:47 PM

well i'm getting it on the 360 because of the huge advantage of having Xbox LIVE! if there was no multiplayer it would be a toss. more than likely PS3 if there was no multiplayer simply because FIFA08 and GT5 Prologue feel like outcasts on my book shelf next to all my xbox360 games...so i'd want to even things up a little.

4/27/2008 3:02:39 PM

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/869/869541p1.html

Quote :

"Past GTA titles have had mild-to-serious framerate issues and technical glitches, because the games were trying to do far more than the PlayStation 2 could handle. While GTA IV is pushing the PS3 and 360 to the limit, it also runs amazingly well. Sure, there are framerate hitches here and there and (particularly on 360) there is some texture pop-in, but it actually runs better than I expected. That a game with great AI, an awesome physics engine and a detailed open world runs so well and with such short load times is a technical marvel. For that, I can forgive framerate issues and some noticeable aliasing. The art team gets major kudos for creating a living world. There is great texture work in the environments, a nice field-of-vision blur of buildings in the distance, some excellently modeled cars, ball-jarring explosions, phenomenal water effects and one interesting-looking Eastern Euro for a lead character. Sure, it's not a game that runs perfectly all the time, but the technical elements almost never get in the way of the gameplay. For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud."

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3167589&p=37

Quote :

"None of these little flaws take away from Liberty City's breathtaking vistas, incredibly varied scenery, and lived-in look (the PS3 version has the slightest visual edge, plus motion-control support -- but then it's missing Achievements and the eventual downloadable episodes exclusive to the 360 game). The city just feels alive."

http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/grand-theft-auto-iv/review/grand-theft-auto-iv/a-2008042774322495013/g-20060313153735796095/p-4

Quote :

"While the PS3 and 360 versions of the game are functionally identical, the PS3's visuals sport noticeably smoother edges, along with a warmer color palette that makes everything look slightly more realistic. If you're looking to compare Accomplishments with your Achievement-hoarding friends, though, forget it - GTA IV ignores these half-assed consolation prizes altogether. PS3 owners also have to put up with a nearly eight-minute installation the first time they start the game, which puts the normally slower Blu-ray load times on par with the Xbox 360 version. (That is, unless it's running on a 360 with no hard drive, which we're told will face much longer loads.) "

http://www.gamereactor.se/recensioner/13716/Grand+Theft+Auto+IV/

Quote :

"Swedish Gamereactor mentioned in their 10/10 review that they were pretty surprised regarding the difference between the PS3 and 360-versions. The PS3-version features better colours, contrast, load times and what looks to be better resolution textures. The game also looks sharper and has a more stable fps. "

http://uk.ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/grand-theft-auto-iv/869750p3.html

Quote :

"Although it's got a few problems that pop up from time to time, Grand Theft Auto IV is still an absolutely gorgeous game. Like the previous games in the series, it suffers from some texture pop-in and draw distance issues, although these should in no way affect your enjoyment of the game. It's easy to just consider those technical flaws the price you've got to pay for admission to the most impressive game world ever created. There's so much going on that you'll only really notice the flaws if you look for them, and if you're doing that there's a good chance you're missing out on something spectacular. The overall art design and visual aesthetics are extremely pleasing to the eye, and they aren't hurt by the technical issues. For those who have to decide between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions, we should mention that these flaws are slightly less noticeable in the PS3 game. There are a few other minor differences as well, the biggest being the PS3 game's Sixaxis controls. You can use the controller's tilt feature to perform wheelies on motorbikes or control your helicopter, but it just ends up feeling forced. You're much better off just turning them off and sticking with the default control scheme. The Xbox 360 version, on the other hand, has Achievements and features a more intuitive controller (though that may just be this reviewer's personal opinion). Both versions are excellent, so you really can't go wrong. "

So that's the bottom line. I could post more but they all basically say the same thing: both versions look great, both have some technical issues, slightly less so for the PS3 version. All of them say it doesn't matter which version you get, you're getting a great game either way.

4/27/2008 3:59:44 PM

except for dlc!

4/27/2008 4:04:24 PM

every single one of my friends has a 360 and i just prefer their online interface so ill be getting the 360 version

4/27/2008 5:26:13 PM

Roll Call for Gamestop at Crossroads tomorrow night
MyFilosofy
Golovko

4/27/2008 5:37:21 PM

Roll Call for Gamestop at Crabtree Tuesday on Lunchbreak
seedless

[Edited on April 27, 2008 at 6:12 PM. Reason : pre-ordered the limited edition wooooooooooo]

4/27/2008 6:05:48 PM

im going to crossroads...gonna pay it off in the afternoon so that hopefully we just show receipt and walk out

4/27/2008 7:07:24 PM

^^^ Me 4

4/27/2008 8:49:56 PM

...nevermind

[Edited on April 27, 2008 at 9:19 PM. Reason : .]

4/27/2008 9:16:28 PM

This is gonna be the most awesome murder simulator ever, Hillary Clinton can suck it!

4/27/2008 9:34:51 PM

anybody know if the game has a cooperative mode? can i play the storyline and/or multiplayer with my friend on one xbox?

4/27/2008 9:38:04 PM

no, you can't.

4/27/2008 9:43:04 PM

I'm guessing this is too high-profile to get someone to break the street date easily...

damnit

4/27/2008 9:45:34 PM

Quote :

"im going to crossroads...gonna pay it off in the afternoon so that hopefully we just show receipt and walk out"

Dude at Gamestop said that people should show up around 10pm, pay off the balance, they'll mark your receipt with something or give you a new one, then at 12 they just start passing them out. He said for Halo 3 they did it that way and everybody had their game within 20 minutes of them handing out the first one when the clock struck 12.

4/27/2008 10:01:57 PM

I'm going to crabtree tomorrow night

4/27/2008 11:05:36 PM