come on guys he just needs more time. MORE TIME IS WHAT HE NEEDS!

1/13/2008 7:14:41 PM

Who's alias are you anyway?

1/13/2008 8:05:27 PM

^jaybee

1/13/2008 8:19:43 PM

^^ you are just mad because the Cowboys lost

1/13/2008 8:21:51 PM

Yeah yeah Dallas lost...I won't lose any sleep.

Back to the topic at hand. If there really is this much turmoil going on amongst teammates then Sidney is most definitely the one at fault. He has lost this team and must get it back. I am interested to hear more on the players not getting along and people turning on Javi, even if he clearly is not ever going to be an ACC caliber player. rallydurham was right all along. Ill admit I loved Herb but maybe we did need a change. Then with Fowler running the search we ended up hiring the damn guy we had "consulting" for us who offered his services for the job. I honestly didn't like the hire to begin with but loved what he did last year. Now things have really changed.

1/14/2008 1:37:35 AM

LOUD NOISES

1/14/2008 10:18:09 AM

I think it's a little early to be turning on Lowe.

Granted, I haven't seen much other than recruiting giving me much hope for the future, but Lowe did a great job last year. Hopefully he can get this straightened out.

We just need someone who can consistently shoot the damn ball and a top notch PG and we'll be fine. We just can't do shit now becuase we only have size and they're sitting back playing zone.

[Edited on January 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM. Reason : ]

1/14/2008 10:55:42 AM

I'm not turning on Lowe, but at this point, he no longer gets a free pass. Like a lot of people have said, the only reason he has any support whatsoever is the home win vs. UNC last year and the ACC/NIT tournament runs. The team has looked like complete shit this year from day one. The offense has been get the ball to Hickson, and if that doesn't work, swing it around the perimeter until someone bricks a jump shot with the clock expiring. Losses to shitty teams, getting embarrased by good teams, and barely beating one win teams is unacceptable. Like everyone else, I was suckered into thinking this would be our year, and that has completely blown up in our faces. If he can't salvage this mess into at least a 9-7 ACC record and an NCAA birth, then it's time to start looking for a new coach.

1/14/2008 11:06:34 AM

wasnt our FG % like 17.6% in the first half?

with something like that, yeah he is on watch IMO.

but oh well. i think for the first time, i could have done better (playing, not coaching.. well maybe coaching also)

1/14/2008 11:12:48 AM

whatever happened to that NBA style offense

1/14/2008 11:14:47 AM

^^Well we better start looking, 'cause 9-7 and an NCAA birth aint happenin

1/14/2008 11:15:18 AM

Sidney Lowe's put together a team that could be beaten at your local YMCA. And there has been zero improvement, if anything it has gotten worse.

1/14/2008 11:19:34 AM

The worst thing that can happen to us is an NIT birth this year and I have a feeling we might pull something like that out.

The results from our team has to be consistently bad, or we're going for another herb experiment.

1/14/2008 12:04:12 PM

no, the worst thing that can happen to us is going 0-15 the rest of the way

which is plausible at this point

1/14/2008 12:09:30 PM

Now I accepted and even enjoyed the NIT berth last year since we had a short bench, first year coach, and lost a few key seniors. This year we were supposed to be challenging for the conference (which is still, albeit unlikely, in reach) and a high seed in the tourney. We've asked a lot out of this team internally thru Sidney and Gavin's prediction (in friggen August), and thru our high expectations as fans. They are acting right now like they are rebellious against the system and each other and now it's showing. I'll definitely be paying attention to this team in the offseason to see the fireworks, or see how they put up, shut up, and just get along.

We shouldn't be accepting an NIT berth. I'll reserve judgement until we get thru a good chunk of conference play.

[Edited on January 14, 2008 at 12:29 PM. Reason : a]

1/14/2008 12:28:07 PM

Quote :

"whatever happened to that NBA style offense"

we're using it. our isolation plays aren't working because...well, they just aren't.

we don't have a pg capable enough to pick and roll.

i want to kill myself.

1/14/2008 1:28:48 PM

You won't do it

1/14/2008 1:31:41 PM

For what it's worth, Javi made a nice pick and roll pass to Hickson during the first half

Unfortunately Hickson missed the 3ft jumper

1/14/2008 1:59:25 PM

Ok, how long does it take Fowler to fire Lowe IF our teams remain as bad as this years team?

Also, can we please get some better assistants that know how to "coach em up"

1/14/2008 3:22:07 PM

^ oh I'd guess about 3 or 4 years too late

1/14/2008 3:28:44 PM

Well, since I think Lowe might not know how to deal with college talent vs NBA talent.....

I am in for a shitty decade

1/14/2008 3:37:07 PM

Quote :

" no, the worst thing that can happen to us is going 0-15 the rest of the way which is plausible at this point "

No thats the best thing that could happen.

That makes next year a hot seat year.

1/14/2008 3:47:52 PM

In all honesty...as bad as we sucked against UNC, they ARE pretty much hands down the number one team in the nation right now, and are a pretty safe bet to win the NCAA championship without much of a contest. I knew this was coming considering how crappy we did against Michigan State.

I still have hope that we'll at least win 9-10 out of the 15 ACC games we have left, considering that only UNC, Duke, Miami, and Clemson are ranked.

That being said, we'll see how we do against Clemson and Miami over the next week.

1/14/2008 4:01:05 PM

Quote :

"Ok, how long does it take Fowler to fire Lowe IF our teams remain as bad as this years team? Also, can we please get some better assistants that know how to "coach em up""

Our assistant coaches are not the problem. Maybe Towe should be coaching this team and Lowe can lead recruiting.

Also how long does it take before someone, anyone fires fucking Lee Fowler. What has he accomplished in his pathetic tenure? Honestly we are no better now in anything than when he took over. He should have been fired along with Amato.

1/14/2008 4:09:30 PM

did you see towe coach that half of a game last year? he looked like a deer caught in the headlights.

1/14/2008 4:22:35 PM

^ that was a joke about Towe. Honestly though Lowe is like Amato already = good recruiter, bad coach.

Let's hope to see some type of improvement against Clemson.

1/14/2008 4:29:08 PM

Well, he sure did put togeter a New Orleans team that whooped our ass

1/14/2008 4:31:17 PM

1/14/2008 7:45:05 PM

http://www.wral.com/sports/story/2300070/

hopefully....and finally

1/14/2008 8:01:47 PM

yes sir!

1/14/2008 9:02:46 PM

Quote :

"and are a pretty safe bet to win the NCAA championship without much of a contest."

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAA

*BREATHE*

AHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

1/14/2008 9:08:39 PM

Quote :

"http://www.wral.com/sports/story/2300070/ hopefully....and finally"

didn't every sports analyst and the entire tww say that 4 games ago?

come on lowe.

1/14/2008 10:23:05 PM

if anything, he will just start johnson over javi

1/14/2008 10:42:18 PM

Quote :

"I'm not turning on Lowe, but at this point, he no longer gets a free pass."

exactly. Lowe has been the head coach of the program for 52 games now, almost a year and a half. I don't think anyone should be cutting him any slack.

During that time, he has brought in new players, which he recruited. We should be seeing an up-tempo, NBA-style offense taking shape by now, one that will bring the ACC to its knees.

And lets face it, we thought we knew what we were getting when we hired Lowe - an experienced head coach who knew the ins and outs of the college system, who could come in and produce immediately. Perhaps we were wrong.

He's had more than 50 games to turn the program around. Did it take Guthridge that long after Dean left? How about Pete Carroll - how long until he had USC in the top ten again? John Fox with the Panthers?

I agree, if we don't finish 10-6 in the ACC, or 9-7 at the least (provided we win the ACC tournament) Lowe has to go.

[Edited on January 14, 2008 at 11:16 PM. Reason : /sarcasm]

1/14/2008 11:11:32 PM

well sir, i can guarantee you with that formula..


lowe will be gone in 2.5 months!!

1/14/2008 11:13:32 PM

^^ yeah. right.

[Edited on January 14, 2008 at 11:14 PM. Reason : stfu]

1/14/2008 11:14:38 PM

Quote :

"I agree, if we don't finish 10-6 in the ACC, or 9-7 at the least (provided we win the ACC tournament) Lowe has to go."

JESUS CHRIST

1/14/2008 11:19:04 PM

lol. serious post?

1/14/2008 11:25:04 PM

Well, seeing as how we play UNC, Duke and Clemson twice each, that's an automatic 6 losses. So we better win every other ACC game if you want us to finish 10-6. Should be pretty easy to do.

1/14/2008 11:36:15 PM

State wins a game?

FREE RAZRS AT ALLTEL!

1/14/2008 11:40:06 PM

i can't believe you people. i'm as disappointed as the rest of you, but seriously, you're turning on him after not even a year and a half. fuck you all.

1/14/2008 11:41:04 PM

we play them twice but 3 games @RDU = home advantage

1/14/2008 11:41:52 PM

Quote :

"Well, seeing as how we play UNC, Duke and Clemson twice each"

wow all of these teams are very beatable. if we go 0-6 vs them then ya, lowe gets a major wtf. no excuse for not going 1-5 but it should be more like 2-4.

1/14/2008 11:45:29 PM

The State bashing continues during the Gonzaga Pepperdine game.

1/15/2008 12:19:43 AM

what they say?

I heard bilas say that we underperformed during the Pitt/GTown game

1/15/2008 12:21:23 AM

I think Len Elmore is doin' this game. Same ole' stuff. Horrible half against Carolina and the under performing

[Edited on January 15, 2008 at 12:27 AM. Reason : Or it's Hubert Davis. I can't tell right now]

1/15/2008 12:25:10 AM

yea i was sittin with my bro who goes to carolina and i just started laughing i had no response

1/15/2008 12:28:45 AM

Quote :

"we play them twice but 3 games @RDU = home advantage"

1) RDU is halfway between Raleigh (State) and Durham (Duke).
2) Seriously?

Quote :

"i can't believe you people. i'm as disappointed as the rest of you, but seriously, you're turning on him after not even a year and a half. fuck you all."

1/15/2008 12:30:13 AM

^^the white dude is terry gannon (lowes former teammate) so that's probably why they were talking about it

1/15/2008 1:20:47 AM

Quote :

"wasnt our FG % like 17.6% in the first half? "

True, but then we shot 58%. I am as disappointed about the game as anyone else, but I do think its a little to early to be turning on anyone. We def need to see some major improvements with the talent that we have got, but what bothers me is the lack of hustle. THe look like they don't even care half the time, what happen to the heart from last year i.e. the ACC tourny.

1/15/2008 1:46:53 AM