you didnt build page 15

9/18/2012 11:03:26 PM

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"Forty-seven percent of the country, he said, are people "who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to take care of them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it." This comment suggests a few things. First, it suggests that he really doesn't know much about the country he inhabits. Who are these freeloaders? Is it the Iraq war veteran who goes to the V.A.? Is it the student getting a loan to go to college? Is it the retiree on Social Security or Medicare? It suggests that Romney doesn't know much about the culture of America. Yes, the entitlement state has expanded, but America remains one of the hardest-working nations on earth. Americans work longer hours than just about anyone else. Americans believe in work more than almost any other people. Ninety-two percent say that hard work is the key to success, according to a 2009 Pew Research Survey. It says that Romney doesn't know much about the political culture. Americans haven't become childlike worshipers of big government. On the contrary, trust in government has declined. The number of people who think government spending promotes social mobility has fallen. The people who receive the disproportionate share of government spending are not big-government lovers. They are Republicans. They are senior citizens. They are white men with high school degrees. As Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution has noted, the people who have benefited from the entitlements explosion are middle-class workers, more so than the dependent poor. Romney's comments also reveal that he has lost any sense of the social compact. In 1987, during Ronald Reagan's second term, 62 percent of Republicans believed that the government has a responsibility to help those who can't help themselves. Now, according to the Pew Research Center, only 40 percent of Republicans believe that. The Republican Party, and apparently Mitt Romney, too, has shifted over toward a much more hyperindividualistic and atomistic social view - from the Reaganesque language of common citizenship to the libertarian language of makers and takers. There's no way the country will trust the Republican Party to reform the welfare state if that party doesn't have a basic commitment to provide a safety net for those who suffer for no fault of their own. The final thing the comment suggests is that Romney knows nothing about ambition and motivation. The formula he sketches is this: People who are forced to make it on their own have drive. People who receive benefits have dependency. But, of course, no middle-class parent acts as if this is true. Middle-class parents don't deprive their children of benefits so they can learn to struggle on their own. They shower benefits on their children to give them more opportunities - so they can play travel sports, go on foreign trips and develop more skills. People are motivated when they feel competent. They are motivated when they have more opportunities. Ambition is fired by possibility, not by deprivation, as a tour through the world's poorest regions makes clear. Sure, there are some government programs that cultivate patterns of dependency in some people. I'd put federal disability payments and unemployment insurance in this category. But, as a description of America today, Romney's comment is a country-club fantasy. It's what self-satisfied millionaires say to each other. It reinforces every negative view people have about Romney."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/watch-full-secret-video-private-romney-fundraiser

nytimes.com/2012/09/18/opinion/brooks-thurston-howell-romney.xml

[Edited on September 18, 2012 at 11:06 PM. Reason : ...]

9/18/2012 11:05:06 PM

it was lame when you posted it before. it's lame now. jesus

9/18/2012 11:05:45 PM

the daily show just pointed out that Romney's dad was on welfare for a few years when he first immigrated from mexico.

9/18/2012 11:07:38 PM

9/18/2012 11:12:03 PM

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"one of the things I’ve learned as president is you represent the entire country. And when I meet Republicans as I’m traveling around the country, they are hard working, family people, who care deeply about this country and my expectation is that if you want to be president you got to work for everybody not just for some."

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/09/18/on-letterman-obama-responds-to-romneys-47-percent-remarks/

9/18/2012 11:12:47 PM

until he insults those who care about guns and religion

9/18/2012 11:15:10 PM

Mitt Romney paid income tax on $350,000 of a $25 million income in the one year for which he released a return, and yet he is righteously angry that people who make $20,000/year aren't paying their fair share.

He's just a fucking asshole, period, end of story.

9/18/2012 11:15:27 PM

^^ yeah, Obama handled that pretty gracefully.

Very unlike Romney regarding this issue.

(but then again, Obama didn't say he didn't care about anyone, so his task was much easier)

9/18/2012 11:18:31 PM

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"you didnt build page 15"

hahahaha

9/18/2012 11:19:47 PM

that's the one thing I will say. Obama handled that fairly well, not that he didn't have help from the media who just kinda let it go. But, as I understand it, Mitt Romney called a press conference to then get up and stammer and stutter. Not gonna help you either way

9/18/2012 11:20:20 PM

So rather than letting Romney taking responsibility for his statements, you're blaming the media...

how ironic.

Romney shouldn't even be thinking what he said, let alone say it. This isn't the media at all. This is 100% Mitt Romney. He should take responsibility for his statements, stop being the victim.

9/18/2012 11:43:09 PM

9/18/2012 11:47:34 PM

Just saw this link today:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09/18/the-7-worst-atrocities-mitt-romney-has-unleashed-on-the-lgbt-community/

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"1. As governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney invoked a 100-year-old law against interracial marriage to stop gay people from marrying in the state."

I actually remember that happening, Romney dredging up that anti-interracial marriage law and using it to stop same sex marriages too. I thought it was potentially political suicide to start enforcing an anti-interracial marriage law, even if in effect it couldn't ban inter-racial marriages any more. I guess I was wrong.

9/19/2012 5:54:19 PM

Liberals are keen to point out political suicide lately

9/19/2012 9:31:45 PM

that's cause if the other guy is dead, then it doesn't matter how shitty their candidate is

9/19/2012 9:33:08 PM

is it to late to replace Romney with Rubio?

9/19/2012 9:37:47 PM

doubt he'd be accepted by mainstream republicans given that he's the son of cuban immigrants.

[Edited on September 19, 2012 at 9:42 PM. Reason : but, from everything i've seen, he seems like an improvement. ]

9/19/2012 9:42:13 PM

Mitt Romney hates poor people.

9/19/2012 10:49:02 PM

9/20/2012 11:26:54 PM

Poor people aren't necessarily killers.

9/21/2012 1:20:08 PM

THIS GUY IS A FUCKING MORON. He hates poor/middle class people.

9/23/2012 8:23:51 PM

Good, what a bunch of fucking saps.

9/23/2012 8:37:09 PM

remember folks, if you disagree with a liberal, it's because you hate someone

9/23/2012 8:47:52 PM

I disagree with Romney,

I hate conservatives.

9/23/2012 8:49:26 PM

wtf

[Edited on September 23, 2012 at 8:57 PM. Reason : ]

9/23/2012 8:56:55 PM

It's ok to hate. Just don't get all butthurt when someone calls you out.

9/23/2012 10:21:06 PM

I hear that Romney doesn't hate poor people, middle class people, and black people.... he just wants to put them in shackles and make them his slaves so he can make mo' money! [ /sarcasm ]

Seriously, I think this shit should stay in the soap box. I'd rather vote for Gary Johnson. I'm not voting for Obama or Romney and you fuckers can keep telling me I am "wasting my vote" by not voting for either a Democrat or a Republican candidate.

9/23/2012 10:39:15 PM

and we will, because you are.

9/24/2012 10:31:54 AM

and we will, because you are.

9/24/2012 10:38:44 AM

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"THIS GUY IS A FUCKING MORON. He hates poor/middle class people"

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"remember folks, if you disagree with a liberal, it's because you hate someone"

so what you're saying is, romney doesn't "hate" the poor/middle class, he just disagrees with them?

9/24/2012 2:27:37 PM

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"On Monday, Mitt Romney offered a remedy to the problem that caused his wife’s airplane to land prematurely last week: Allow passengers to roll down the airplane windows. Ann Romney’s plane was grounded Friday after the main cabin filled with smoke. The small electrical fire caused no injuries, but apparently did cause the Presidential candidate to forget the dangers of altitude. “When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly,” he told the LA Times. “And you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem.” Air crafts do not open windows because the cabins are pressurized to fly safely at an altitude of tens of thousand feet. Opening a window in an airplane would seriously sicken the passengers and crew. "

9/24/2012 3:08:06 PM

lol wait you guys actually vote? rofl

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

[Edited on September 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM. Reason : my sides]

9/24/2012 3:09:03 PM

^^haha, he didn't really suggest that did he?

that's gotta be from the onion or similar site.... please.. i hope..

[Edited on September 24, 2012 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .]

9/24/2012 3:10:17 PM

Sadly he did

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-beverly-hills-fundraiser-20120922,0,2317962.story

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"“I appreciate the fact that she is on the ground, safe and sound. And I don’t think she knows just how worried some of us were,” Romney said. “When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous. And she was choking and rubbing her eyes. Fortunately, there was enough oxygen for the pilot and copilot to make a safe landing in Denver. But she’s safe and sound.”"

[Edited on September 24, 2012 at 3:12 PM. Reason : Also, oxygen fuels fires]

9/24/2012 3:12:02 PM

implying planes need to be pressurized

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

9/24/2012 3:12:24 PM

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"Opening a window in an airplane would seriously sicken the passengers and crew."

but the movies taught me i'd just get ripped the fuck out and free fall to earth still strapped into my chair

9/24/2012 3:13:57 PM

[Edited on September 24, 2012 at 3:16 PM. Reason : already posted]

9/24/2012 3:16:28 PM

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"wtf"

9/24/2012 3:29:04 PM

Depends how high up they were when it happened.

Standard procedure in most minor incidents like this is to drop altitude so if there is a hull breech it isn't a big deal.

Outside air in a plane isn't like when you go outside on Mars in Total Recall.

9/24/2012 3:39:00 PM

regardless, that was a really, really stupid comment.

(also, the plane is traveling a few hundred miles an hour, so it'd be pretty windy)

[Edited on September 24, 2012 at 3:44 PM. Reason : ]

9/24/2012 3:44:03 PM

Planes have vents to let in outside air in just this kind of emergency (again, assuming they got to a low enough altitude).

I agree it was a stupid comment, and Romney is obviously full of them, but in his defense you expect him to know everything about the functioning of an airplane?

Although its ridiculously obvious you can't roll down a window, maybe he was unaware of any venting system? Maybe he doesn't know how pressurization works?

I'm sure there are plenty of things you don't know in life that he does.

[Edited on September 24, 2012 at 3:49 PM. Reason : -]

9/24/2012 3:47:42 PM

perhaps he meant once it was safe to roll down the windows, like when the plane had landed and stopped

perhaps not

9/24/2012 3:53:07 PM

gary johnson looks like the Goldsboro town drunkard

[Edited on September 24, 2012 at 3:55 PM. Reason : BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!]

9/24/2012 3:55:01 PM

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"I'm sure there are plenty of things you don't know in life that he does."

maybe, but knowing that it's a bad idea to allow plane passengers to roll-down their windows is just common sense. and he seems to lack it. (and i'm not running for president)

[Edited on September 24, 2012 at 4:13 PM. Reason : ]

9/24/2012 4:12:39 PM

I don't know anything about horse dancing

9/24/2012 4:16:22 PM

That is why he isnt the fucking pilot and the Pres don't fly Air Force One.
besides, the windows in the passenger area do not open.
Additionally, opening the pilot or copilot window and cracking open aft hatch are smoke a fumes venting procedures because the normal ventilation system cannot clear out the cabin fast enough.

9/24/2012 4:20:19 PM

^apologist

9/24/2012 4:21:26 PM

Bullet, shut the fuck up.

If Romney talked the way you type he wouldn't even be able to work at the DMV.

9/24/2012 4:25:29 PM

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"perhaps he meant once it was safe to roll down the windows, like when the plane had landed and stopped perhaps not"

Perhaps its still a stupid comment because there are giant doors that can be opened when on the ground to allow ventilation, and even better, escape from the burning plane.

9/24/2012 4:35:07 PM