Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Competition BBQ is a whole different game than backyard BBQ. Comp BBQ is a joke." |
your first statement is true. i would never cook meat the way i do for competitions to serve for eating.
but it's definitely not a joke. there is tons of science and refinement that goes into it. skills that translate very well into cooking for people to actually eat, and not just for making 6 "perfect" bites for the judges.2/7/2016 3:18:46 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, if you like cold, super sweet, sugar coated meat, then comp bbq is not a joke 2/7/2016 3:31:16 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
cold my ass. someone must not have done it right.
and yes, it's overly sweet for the judges because they need one bite to pop. that's what they expect in the turn in box anyway. the stuff we serve to people is not. 2/8/2016 7:43:01 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Smoked another butt yesterday. Turned out beautiful and delicious. I'm in love.
[Edited on February 8, 2016 at 3:42 PM. Reason : .] 2/8/2016 3:42:26 PM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
Harris teeter has $5.99/6.99 porterhouse & t-bone through wednesday. I thought that was a smokin deal 2/29/2016 11:35:45 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Tried smoking some wings last night and I think it was a success. They were maybe a tad dry, but it was mostly the smaller ones, so that makes sense. I started late, so it was rushed a bit and I threw them on before the temp was down to where I wanted it to be and it never really got low after I threw on the wood chips. I had them on there for almost two hours between 280 and 300ish. Would have like to kept them on for three hours around 225 and 250...but they still tasted delicious. I was mostly worried that they wouldn't be crispy (just used a dry rub)...but although they weren't "fresh out of the fire" crispy...they were definitely crispy enough.
It was a test run for Bridge Run weekend. While everyone is running the bridge and drinking afterwards, I'm going to be smoking a butt at the house. When they get back around 1ish...I'm going to toss some wings on the grill beside the pork and smoke them for a couple hours so everyone can have a snack before dinner later on. That should work, right? 2/29/2016 11:52:45 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
next time when you get the temp down a bit more, they will be spot on
goddamn i love smoking wings
[Edited on February 29, 2016 at 1:14 PM. Reason : .] 2/29/2016 1:14:26 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
When smoking the pork butt, I keep the grill hovering around 225ish. That should work better for the wings, correct? I imagine I can keep them on a big longer at that temp...maybe 2.5 to 3 hours? 2/29/2016 1:54:22 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
chicken is tender. cooking it for several hours is a waste of time. increases the chance of drying it out, too. 2/29/2016 4:50:52 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
But smoked wings are delicious. 2/29/2016 6:22:49 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
they're good if you just go ahead and cook them at 350 or 400, too 2/29/2016 7:33:52 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Where da pictures at 2/29/2016 8:37:34 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i did some kielbasa from Costco tonight. i don't remember the brand. it's from Texas. 'twas tasty. 2/29/2016 9:22:03 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
sounds delicious. steers, queers, and good damn meat come from texas. (no homo) 2/29/2016 11:07:16 PM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
About time for a new grill. Although I love the convenience of gas for for a quick dinner for just the two of us, looking at maybe going charcoal.
This might be a silly question but how long do the Weber kettle grills hold up without a cover? Looking at maybe getting a Performer Series. 3/3/2016 6:30:37 PM |
Houston All American 2269 Posts user info edit post |
I have one that is going on 15 yrs without a cover, 1 going on 5. Bigger issue is making sure the top vent is closed when not in use, and that you clean the grease and charcoal out of the bottom after each use. Otherwise the internal part of the bottom vent rusts. The internals are cheap and easy to replace, bought 1 set around the 10 yr mark. If you keep the grates oiled, they will last forever. 3/3/2016 7:54:55 PM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
You go in and wipe the bottom out after every use? That sounds like a pain in the ass. 3/3/2016 8:43:25 PM |
Houston All American 2269 Posts user info edit post |
No, there is a lever on the outside you move back and forth, knocks all the crap into the ash pan. Takes 10 seconds. 3/4/2016 6:11:07 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
That's the "One-Touch" cleaning system. I'm not sure if they sell any kettles now without it. The older ones just had 3 daisy wheels on the bottom and you pretty much just had to turn the thing upside down to clean it out. 3/4/2016 12:10:47 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah that's what mine has. Simple process. I don't wipe anything except the grate with oil before cooking to keep it seasoned.
[Edited on March 4, 2016 at 12:28 PM. Reason : Mine's been uncovered for years with practically no rusting] 3/4/2016 12:27:40 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
I have a Performer I got used off Craigslist. It is sweet. The table is nice and the propane lighting is awesome.
[Edited on March 4, 2016 at 2:18 PM. Reason : but I keep it in my garage] 3/4/2016 2:18:15 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
HT has $1.50 Smithfield butts 3/5/2016 6:31:01 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
sucks y'all don't have a piggly wiggly up there 3/5/2016 8:43:46 PM |
richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
I got a Performer Premium toward the end of the season last year. Love it--the size of the side table is really handy and the charcoal bin is a great feature also. Can't speak to how well they hold up without a cover though (too new plus I keep it under cover).
Mine doesn't have the gas-assisted lighting, but using a chimney starter is plenty fast enough.
[Edited on March 6, 2016 at 1:49 AM. Reason : g] 3/6/2016 1:48:49 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
the trick is to put the chimney over the gas burner. no newspaper, no lighters, ready to go in no time. sometimes i even use it to light lump for my Akorn. 3/6/2016 8:37:30 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
This looks cool: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/meater-the-only-wire-free-smart-meat-thermometer#/
[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 5:35 PM. Reason : especially for $70!] 3/7/2016 5:12:13 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, very cool. 3/7/2016 5:33:08 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
so i'm looking to upgrade my charcoal setup, should i do the Weber performer or some time of kamodo/akorn?
let me get them details 3/8/2016 10:06:44 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Depends on how much money you wanna spend. Weber is $120ish new, Akron is closer to $300, and that's by far the most affordable kamado style grill. 3/8/2016 10:23:50 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
In a couple weeks we've got friends coming in town for the bridge run and I'm going to do two butts instead of just one.
I'm pretty sure that my grill is big enough to where I can put two butts on there without either being directly over the fire. How much space should be between the two and should I rotate them halfway through? 3/8/2016 10:36:09 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
I rotate when I have just one butt so one side isn't exposed to the fire the whole time 3/8/2016 11:01:20 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Well that's settled!
Any other tidbits? I assume the cook time might increase just a bit with an extra butt on there? 3/8/2016 12:00:19 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Probably. I learned the hard way enough times to always leave an extra couple hours in your timeline. Way easier to let the meat rest at your target temp for 1-2 hours than it is to crank the heat up to have the meat ready in time, and pull scorching hot meat while under the gun.] 3/8/2016 12:04:32 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
as long as there is enough airflow / distance between them (aim for 3") and they are the same thickness the timing should be the same but safe to add some extra time and FTC if needed 3/8/2016 12:30:07 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
I've started with two butts less than an inch apart and had about 3" between them by the time the cook was over. Starting out with some decent spacing is fine, but definitely not necessary.
Quote : | "so i'm looking to upgrade my charcoal setup, should i do the Weber performer or some time of kamodo/akorn?
let me get them details" |
There's nothing really that you can do with one that you can't do with the other. Both will do direct, indirect, hot and fast, low and slow. The Akorn is much better at low and slow. It requires less charcoal and is more temp stable. I can get my Akorn going, set the PID controller, and not have to touch it for 12 hours.
[Edited on March 8, 2016 at 5:56 PM. Reason : asfd]3/8/2016 5:52:31 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
I'm bout to Grill. 3/8/2016 6:03:21 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
yea, i think I'm going to go Akorn. I've had nothing but good experiences with them 3/9/2016 3:05:14 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
The Teeter had BOGO babybacks yesterday so I'm going to attempt to smoke them this Saturday.
Reading up on them a bit, would everyone agree in using the 2-2-1 method (3-2-1 for spare)?
I'm not a sauce guy, so anything involving that wouldn't be necessary. In the same 2-2-1 article I read, it said to put the rub on the night before. With my pork butts, I salt the night before and put the rub on about 45 minutes before smoking. Any reason for the difference? Thanks! 3/15/2016 11:54:37 AM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
i almost exclusively use 2-2-1 for baby backs - i rarely will put the rub on more than an hour before
225 on the egg - i remove the membrane - put a coating of brown sugar - then rub - put on the grill for 2 hours - then double wrap in aluminum foil - inside the foil is a smattering of honey and 1/4 - 1/2 cup of apple juice - after 2 hours - discard foil and baste a fairly light coat of sauce on (if people want more they can add more later) - based on how much the meat breaks when transferring back to the egg or how much bone is showing from the meat retracting determines how much of the last hour is used 3/15/2016 1:05:53 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I see the apple juice mentioned everywhere...that won't leave a distinct apply/apple juice flavor? Any reason to not just use water or something similar? 3/15/2016 2:21:59 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
there is no apple juice flavor on the ribs - they aren't soaking in the apple juice - the bones are touching it and maybe a bit of the meat but not a significant portion - i've never tried with water to be honest 3/15/2016 4:05:59 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
there was a bunch of old bbq sauce and shit stuck to the side and grate inside my grill so i built a fire with some old wet ass nasty ass charcoal and burnt that shit the fuck out of there 3/15/2016 4:32:54 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
man that's flavoring 3/16/2016 8:48:11 AM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
Somebody has a Weber Performer Platinum for sale in Winston for $150. Trying to keep myself from impulse buying even though I have been eyeing one for a while. 4/1/2016 6:17:03 PM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
Picked up the Performer today. Can't wait to try it out tomorrow. Has anybody used the "CharBaskets" in the newer Weber grills? Theyre the baskets you put your coals in and move around for direc/indirect cooking. 4/2/2016 5:57:09 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, the baskets are great. I smoked a fatty tonight using them. 4/2/2016 9:20:48 PM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
Can I just put the coal in the basket and put it over the propane starter instead of using a chimney? And how long will the baskets last low and slow without adding to them?
Also, looking. For something to cook tomorrow that's beefish but cooks longer than just grilling a ribeye
[Edited on April 2, 2016 at 9:38 PM. Reason : . ] 4/2/2016 9:37:26 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, just put the baskets over the propane burner. Depends on what temp you are cooking at, but they should last 1-3 hrs with briquettes. Longer if you use lump.
[Edited on April 3, 2016 at 10:35 AM. Reason : put it's easy to add charcoal to the baskets if you have the hinged cooking grate] 4/3/2016 10:33:56 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
you should do a tri-tip 4/3/2016 12:33:28 PM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
Ordered a Thermopop today. Didn't want to shell out the $90 bucks for a thermapen. Hopefully it still works pretty well. Anyone have one? 4/11/2016 11:13:43 AM |