True...but Julius, Jordan, etc. I didn't all of them...I just said some former players. But yeah you're right.....they know more than we do. The fans definitely keep the hatred for the Holes forever.

7/7/2014 2:24:12 PM

If I had a nickel for every time TJ Warren punched me in the face at a triangle ymca, I'd be rich I tell ya.

7/7/2014 2:24:46 PM

Anyone thats played pickup basketball knows how heated it can get. Hell, i almost got into numerous altercations in my 4 years at State playing pickup in Carmichael.

The bigger question to me is what in the hell PJ was doing playing with a bunch of high school kids at a Durham YMCA, with such intensity to get in a fight, when hes 4 days away from playing NBA Summer League ball. I understand getting into an altercation in pickup ball just fine. The fact that he put himself in that situation, with his history, just screams stupidity.

7/7/2014 2:32:56 PM

^can't disagree with any of that

7/7/2014 2:35:45 PM

McRoberts to Miami

[Edited on July 7, 2014 at 3:11 PM. Reason : Full midlevel, 4 years/$23 million, player option after year 3]

7/7/2014 3:03:13 PM

Is he really worth 6M/year though?

That's the one spot we actually have a little depth. Best of luck to him Miami though. He was fun to watch.

7/7/2014 3:11:50 PM

Glad Cho didn't offer that, but yeah he was solid.

7/7/2014 3:18:59 PM

He will be another birdman.

7/7/2014 4:20:40 PM

7/7/2014 4:43:14 PM

dear hornets,
plz 2 stop halping Miami. k, bye.

7/8/2014 9:41:14 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/hornets-pursuing-marvin-williams-as-possible-replacement-for-josh-mcroberts-002155659.html

7/8/2014 8:41:57 PM

For the love of god stop bringing all of these shitty carolina players

7/8/2014 8:47:06 PM

Jordan loves UNC guys.

7/8/2014 8:51:46 PM

http://instagram.com/p/qMgTzdrwC0/?modal=true

Check out Gilly's shot in the back of that video. Mark Price may be a miracle worker...

7/8/2014 9:41:57 PM

Does Jordan even watch basketball that isn't UNC or Duke? We already know he doesn't watch the Hornets. I get the feeling we're signing Hayward because Butler played Duke in the Championship. Tyler Zeller must've talked him into watching Indiana, too.

7/9/2014 12:51:38 AM

He probably just tracks advanced statistical websites

7/9/2014 1:07:13 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--gordon-hayward-agrees-to--63-million-offer-sheet-with-hornets-051222460.html

7/9/2014 4:03:12 AM

^^^ you're making it sound like this is a bad thing. hayward makes this team instantly better, and williams will play a nice complementary role to big al while vonleh develops. who knows if PJ will ever get his shit straight, so a wing scorer is essential.

of course, now he'll probably wind up staying in utah

7/9/2014 6:41:32 AM

I'm still convinced Jordan doesn't know that Cody and Tyler Zeller are different people.

7/9/2014 7:28:58 AM

Charlotte Jazz

7/9/2014 9:52:49 AM

Did Millsap play UNC when he was in school?

7/9/2014 10:04:20 AM

I guess the Hairston stuff should go in here now instead of the UNC thread?

A story from yesterday that has some details that I hadn't read yet:
http://www.heraldsun.com/sports/panthers/x1550125858/Hairston-charged-with-assaulting-youth-at-Durham-YMCA

7/9/2014 10:07:51 AM

Hayward is a young talent. It looks like Hornets steal MVP of the Jazz.

7/9/2014 12:08:26 PM

wtf, we're paying max for Hayward? He's not worth that.

7/9/2014 12:32:02 PM

Pay him a little less and he probably still wants to come.

7/9/2014 12:39:06 PM

ITT I learned shoot has no idea what a restricted free agent is

7/9/2014 12:40:59 PM

^Yep.

We have to offer him max or no way Utah doesn't match. Utah is definitely going to match regardless, but at least we offered max to give ourselves a chance at landing him.

7/9/2014 12:43:08 PM

OK.
It's like a gamble right? Maybe it's OK. IDK

7/9/2014 12:48:01 PM

so what's the backup plan for when Hayward gets the matching offer from Utah?

7/9/2014 1:43:05 PM

Why not importing Jeremy Lin? As he's likely to get fired by Houston.

7/9/2014 1:50:30 PM

Signing Lin would be big mistake

7/9/2014 2:03:24 PM

If they sign Lin, I will move to Charlotte and watch him play every game.

7/9/2014 2:20:50 PM

Hayward would be a great get.

Marvin Williams is worthless, though.

7/9/2014 6:15:06 PM

This is Hayward's first non-rookie contract. His max offer amount isn't the same as what somebody like Lebron or Melo or another player who is already on their 2nd contract could get. Fyi.

7/9/2014 7:14:15 PM

^What does that mean?

Quote :

"Utah Jazz in good position to match Gordon Hayward’s max offer"

[Edited on July 9, 2014 at 7:54 PM. Reason : ;]

7/9/2014 7:39:00 PM

Um it means they have the cap room to match what the hornets offered.

He is a restricted free agent. Which means Utah has the right to match any offer he receives.

[Edited on July 9, 2014 at 7:52 PM. Reason : Dammit. I just saw that was shoot. now I feel dumb for replying.]

7/9/2014 7:51:53 PM

No. I mean TT's word.

Quote :

" His max offer amount isn't the same as what somebody like Lebron or Melo or another player who is already on their 2nd contract could get."

7/9/2014 7:55:17 PM

More experienced players can get higher max contracts.

7/9/2014 8:04:54 PM

I know that. Also Hayward is not at the same level of Lebron or Melo.

7/9/2014 8:07:39 PM

Yes, and he's not getting paid 20 million a year or whatever.

7/9/2014 9:11:22 PM

I'm gonna need a face to face before I ever respond to shoot.

7/9/2014 9:27:47 PM

yes, he is pretty much idiot

7/9/2014 9:51:44 PM

shoot, 他们只是嫉妒你能扣篮

7/9/2014 10:09:37 PM

Is this the first sentence in Chinese on tww ever?

7/9/2014 10:31:09 PM

i think shoot should start posting in Chinese

7/9/2014 11:03:57 PM

it would be more intelligible

7/10/2014 6:57:22 AM

Alright back on topic

The Jazz are almost guaranteed to match according to Woj, so do we look to Lance next? He has to know that we can offer more than pretty much everyone else so I hope he waits until Monday to see what happens there.

He'd be a good fit if they could just reel in some of that immaturity.

[Edited on July 10, 2014 at 9:03 AM. Reason : Deng possibly too I guess]

7/10/2014 9:02:39 AM

maybe he can be roommates with pj

7/10/2014 9:08:24 AM

Can't really make any official moves with that offer sheet money locked up, though I guess you can always talk to FAs. That's the risk you take with RFAs.

7/10/2014 9:12:24 AM

Houston is also chasing Luol Deng

Quote :

"Rockets reach out to Luol Deng during Chris Bosh wait Sam Amick, USA TODAY Sports 4:26 p.m. EDT July 9, 2014 USATSI_7754591 (Photo: Howard Smith, USA TODAY Sports) 46 CONNECT 68 TWEET LINKEDIN COMMENT EMAIL MORE The Houston Rockets are stuck in neutral like almost everyone else waiting for clarity from free agents LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony. But after offering free agent forward Chris Bosh a maximum-level contract, Rockets general manager Daryl Morey is exploring a number of scenarios in case Bosh declines and perhaps re-signs with the Miami Heat. Morey reached out Wednesday to the representatives for free agent small forward Luol Deng about joining the Rockets, a person with knowledge of the situation told USA TODAY Sports. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the private nature of the talks. HEAT: Need Bosh, LeBron to be quick BOSH: Biggest domino in free agency? Deng has attracted interest from the Atlanta Hawks, the Washington Wizards, Los Angeles Lakers and others but is waiting for Anthony to decide his fate first. He could be a possible replacement for Rockets small forward Chandler Parsons if Houston decides not to match an offer on the restricted free agent. The Dallas Mavericks are very interested in Parsons, and rival executives expect them to eventually put forth a major offer sheet for Parsons. Utah Jazz restricted free agent Gordon Hayward just landed a four-year, $63 million maximum contract offer from the Charlotte Hornets, which helps set this inflated market for Parsons, a similar player. So it's not surprising that the Rockets are at least considering other options. USATODAY Teams making final pitches to LeBron James A second person said the offer to Bosh was not given with a defined deadline. The person with knowledge of the negotiations spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because the talks were supposed to remain confidential. Houston would be ecstatic to have him join Dwight Howard, James Harden and the rest of the Rockets' lot that went 54-28 and lost to the Portland Trail Blazers in the first round of the playoffs. Houston plans on trading point guard Jeremy Lin in order to make room for a player like Bosh on its payroll but won't execute a trade until it receives a commitment from Bosh. Although only Bosh knows which way he's leaning, the Wednesday meeting between James, Heat President Pat Riley and James' agent, Rich Paul, will surely play a part in what happens next. The group is expected to meet at 3 p.m. PT in the Wynn hotel in Las Vegas, a person with knowledge of James' situation confirmed."

7/10/2014 9:34:33 AM