These are ranked within categories in no particular order.

I will say, though, that Bender ALWAYS did better than the QBs he had to replace due to injury.

Barnett was also similar to Glennon in that he got little to no support, except from his receivers.

7/25/2014 11:05:55 AM

^
I respect that you go way back in your fandom like I do, but that is simply not true about Bender. He was not close to the caliber of Terry Jordan, who he replaced one year due to injury. Bender's first game was legendary though. He replaced Jordan early in a UNC game after Jordan broke his arm. Threw a TD on his first play and lead us to victory.

He might be the best legitimate back up QB we've ever had, unfortunately he was quite mediocre as a full time starter .

7/25/2014 11:12:06 AM

olin hannum is the greatest backup QB ever at state.

it's not his fault rivers never left games.

7/25/2014 11:35:41 AM

Glennon belongs in the top list. Dude had 2 really good seasons, we just were spoiled from the Wilson years and probably don't appreciate his efforts enough. Glennon was working with a sub-par team and was the only reason we were in a lot of those games.

Much like Wilson did, Glennon carried our offense at times. The difference was that we actually had a defense for a season or two with Wilson.

P-Riv was surrounded by a much better team, for at least half of his career.

7/25/2014 11:37:04 AM

Nah.

Glennon was a VERY GOOD player, top 6 or 7 all-time NC State qbs. In my lifetime, just behind Eric Kramer, and certainly not an icon like Rivers or Wilson.

7/25/2014 11:44:28 AM

i think it's fair to say that rivers and wilson are in a class by themselves.

glennon would definitely be the 3rd best on that list, but there is a noticeable drop off from the first two to him. there is also a noticeable drop off between him and whoever you would rank as 4th.

[Edited on July 25, 2014 at 11:45 AM. Reason : glennon > kramer]

[Edited on July 25, 2014 at 11:45 AM. Reason : hell, barnette > kramer]

7/25/2014 11:44:55 AM

I'm not going to shit a brick over ranking Glennon above Kramer. I just lean slightly towards Erik.

LOL please stop with this Barnette over Kramer bullshit, though.

Kramer made a cameo as himself on Married with Children for Christ's sake.

7/25/2014 11:47:04 AM

i thought we were talking about what they did as QBs at State, not their appearances on network sitcoms.

[Edited on July 25, 2014 at 11:51 AM. Reason : NO MA'AM]

7/25/2014 11:51:37 AM

lol, Erik Kramer was 1986 ACC Player of The Year...with these stats:

145 Cmp, 277 Att, 2092 Yds, 14 TD, 16 Int

Good lord...

7/25/2014 11:54:25 AM

LOL

Dat trophy though.

Glennon > Kramer

7/25/2014 11:55:08 AM

In Kramer's defense, his Junior year stat line was much better...threw for about 700 more yards, 3% better completion % and he had a positive TD/INT ratio.

7/25/2014 12:08:59 PM

He's held in very high regard to fans of that era because he (and mostly Sheridan) were the catalyst for one of the best periods of football in it's mediocre history. (starting in 86', yes no titles)

And he helped produce probably our most anti-ncstate shit football moment.

Start at 1:30 mark if you're impatient.

7/25/2014 12:16:01 PM

And while I'm bored,

Some Shane Montgomery.

7/25/2014 12:30:07 PM

best part about arguing which one of our middle tier QBs is better...is that guys like Shane Montgomery and Geoff Bender would have been in the conversation of "best ever" had they played at UNC.

Fucking QB graveyard.

7/25/2014 12:52:26 PM

I KNOW I CANT WAIT!!!
CANNNNN YOU DIIIIIIG IT!

7/25/2014 7:16:19 PM

Quote :

"olin hannum is the greatest backup QB ever at state. it's not his fault rivers never left games."

I LOVED Olin Hannum! I got his autograph on the copy of the Wolfpacker that had him on the cover entitled "Backup in the saddle".

7/26/2014 1:55:22 AM

Quote :

"I respect that you go way back in your fandom like I do, but that is simply not true about Bender. He was not close to the caliber of Terry Jordan, who he replaced one year due to injury. Bender's first game was legendary though. He replaced Jordan early in a UNC game after Jordan broke his arm. Threw a TD on his first play and lead us to victory. He might be the best legitimate back up QB we've ever had, unfortunately he was quite mediocre as a full time starter ."

So, I remember the 1993 and 1994 seasons better than 1991, and Bender had to replace Harvey in both of those seasons. From the looks of things in 1994 (the better of those 2 years), he very well might have been better than Harvey had he gone full time. Harvey threw a lot of INTs on his own.

Found this from 1991. We were 6-0 going into Clemson. Bender beat UNC, GT, and Marshall going in. We had a shot at the ACC title going in. GUESS THE OUTCOME???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGKitbKHk8M

Finished 9-2 with losses to great Clemson and UVA teams, which would be great if not for...the full NC State Shit New Year's Special:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0qAhTt5aHk

7/26/2014 6:15:09 PM

Quote :

" Much like Wilson did, Glennon carried our offense at times. The difference was that we actually had a defense for a season or two with Wilson."

In 2010 we had a pretty solid defense and offense and lost 4 games in which we led in the 4th Q, best team in recent empty and we could've/should've been so much better. The. In Glennon's first year we lost Irving on the defense, but due to a single injury (to Manning) we had no viable backup at LB due to TOB's terrible recruiting/depth and lost games solely because of that injury.

TOB's 3rd and 4th years are so damn frustrating. Glennon did great considering our o-line & running game virtually every year under O'Brien were complete shit.

[Edited on July 26, 2014 at 11:52 PM. Reason : TBDV]

7/26/2014 11:52:20 PM

How many more days til games start?

I'm lost without the rhythm of sports.

7/27/2014 8:00:45 PM

i just came in here to say lol

never you mind why

7/28/2014 11:00:45 AM

lol

welcome to the team Marko

get em!

7/28/2014 11:37:35 AM

Will any of our players make the espn top 100?

7/28/2014 11:04:32 PM

no

7/28/2014 11:46:57 PM

Sade, Baumann or Thompson may.

7/29/2014 9:15:07 AM

Hey guys, let's complain about fans not showing up for the second half of a noon game in August, and then schedule a noon game in August next season. TV money > fan support

7/30/2014 9:09:51 AM

how has this not been posted in here?

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/7/28/5945925/acc-fitness-advice

7/30/2014 9:43:53 AM

Anybody know when season tickets get mailed?

8/2/2014 5:44:17 PM

This directly relates to NC State football since we play them every year and they are our main in-state recruiting rival...

UNC had 4 football players dismissed from the team for mostly academic reasons. Most of the hits have come on the d-line, which they are already razor thin at. There are also two more big time d-line guys that are on the edge as far as making it academically (one apparently is appealing an honor court decision). If those guys don't make it, they might be 225lb walk-ons and converted o-line guys in the defensive trenches. It could get ugly.

They've also had two recently 4-star decommits. One is a safety that has already switched to Alabama. Another is an O-lineman who we are/were heavily involved with (McGirt). While committing back to UNC is a possibility, it appears to be a two-man race between us and UGa now. He's really good friends with a RB prospect of our (Hines), and apparently they want to play together. So that's that. Always nice to see high ranked players decommit from UNC...but icing on the cake if they end up switching to us.

Fuck Carolina.

8/3/2014 10:57:34 AM

You have any sources to back that up?

8/3/2014 11:00:20 AM

Message boards and twitter.

8/3/2014 11:20:22 AM

Not that we're deserving of any attention at all after last year anyway, but I really like how this team is flying under the radar with no expectations or scrutiny from the media in the preseason.

[Edited on August 3, 2014 at 11:37 AM. Reason : words]

8/3/2014 11:37:06 AM

Freshman Kentavius Street (4* DE out of Greenville NC)

8/4/2014 11:05:45 AM

that's a big fucking boy

8/4/2014 11:11:42 AM

and a true freshmen.

He's put on like 30 pounds since being here. Not bad

8/4/2014 12:46:16 PM

Apparently these are university-licensed?



I know that this chant is universally liked by all wolfpack fans. So to make everyone happy, instead of "This is our State", maybe this should be our motto this year? .

8/4/2014 1:22:37 PM

you heard wrong. fuck that stupid chant

8/4/2014 1:26:00 PM

I think you're in the minority man. Everyone I've ever talked to say they love that chant, that it's the best.

8/4/2014 1:28:17 PM

^No, he's right. That chant sucks.

Quote :

"If those guys don't make it, they might be 225lb walk-ons and converted o-line guys in the defensive trenches."

And in true #NCStateShit fashion, they will get 6 sacks against us.

DD's got me all Debbie Downer about football.

8/4/2014 1:47:34 PM

Quote :

"In Glennon's first year we lost Irving on the defense, but due to a single injury (to Manning) we had no viable backup at LB due to TOB's terrible recruiting/depth and lost games solely because of that injury."

Thank you. I've been getting so sick of dealing with the ignorance of non-NCSU fans who act like the Wilson transfer was picking Bowie over Jordan. The failings of that team had next to nothing to do with QB play.

8/4/2014 1:51:19 PM

I'll defer to my dad's opinion on the "first down" and "move the chains" chants:

Those are our only frequent used traditional chants, and they are for accomplishments that you should expect. It's like cheering someone for getting to work on time.

8/4/2014 1:52:13 PM

wtf is so special about section 10?

8/4/2014 1:53:32 PM

That guy on this page with his pic deserves this: message_topic.aspx?topic=637645

8/4/2014 1:54:45 PM

Quote :

"you heard wrong. fuck that stupid chant"

8/4/2014 2:00:15 PM

sarcasm guys, sarcasm. every year people bitch and moan about that silly chant.

8/4/2014 2:02:50 PM

Quote :

"Not that we're deserving of any attention at all after last year anyway, but I really like how this team is flying under the radar with no expectations or scrutiny from the media in the preseason."

not really seeing what's there to like. not getting a single conference win will do that to expectations/scrutiny.

8/4/2014 2:07:43 PM

sleeping giant

rebuilding year

8/4/2014 2:09:47 PM

quarterback u

[Edited on August 4, 2014 at 2:47 PM. Reason : ]

8/4/2014 2:47:25 PM

1PACK1GOAL1WIN

8/4/2014 2:59:38 PM

I really like how nobody's talking about us because we were dog shit last season

8/4/2014 3:01:17 PM

"flying under the radar" is usually a pretty stupid thing to be happy about. I can see players or coaches using it as motivation, I guess. But from a fan's perspective...don't you want to be talked about on a national scale? I know as State fans we're used to disappointment, and maybe we've been trained to be pessimistic over the years due to failing to live up to expectations and coming so close, but falling short. But let's be honest. There's nothing fun or inspiring at all about not being talked about on a national scale and coming off a 0-8 conference season. I understand the sentiment...maybe we'll surprise some people. But holy shit that's a low bar to shoot for.

8/4/2014 3:51:24 PM