It still hurts. Slowly but surely Im losing interest in ncsu athletics. Absolutely no fucking return on the emotional investment. We sold our soul for 83. Fucking baby boomers

2/16/2014 9:58:00 AM

IF TJ takes one less step and goes up off of the left foot, he'll get 2 shots.

Still sucks the next morning. Cat did a great job on defense, but horrible on offense. Lewis is not the liability on D that Cat is on O.

2/16/2014 10:00:55 AM

Maybe we need to rebrand or something. Bring back the short shorts, perhaps.

2/16/2014 10:01:54 AM

^Here's what Illinois St. wore yesterday

2/16/2014 10:10:12 AM

yeah, maybe clownshorts would be more fitting

2/16/2014 10:14:25 AM

it won't be popular, but I think it's time for a new mascot

2/16/2014 10:22:38 AM

Canwe delete this thread please? The only sign that this game ever took place was the ncsu shit thread

2/16/2014 10:47:54 AM

every time i think about this game i go RAAHHHHHHH and stomp around the house. still. true story.

2/16/2014 11:57:43 AM

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"so what's your opinion on the call? no problem with it? we aren't allowed to complain about a back breaking call because we had a few turnovers?"

it's a foul that isn't called consistently enough in college. of course I would have preferred that continuation had been allowed, but that doesn't make it an intentional foul. they're never gonna call a foul in which there is a clear play at the ball intentional regardless if it's from behind or not

the way that's called now is 50-50 in college and we just happened to get the bad 50

I'm fine with complaining about it. I'm not fine with people tricking themselves into thinking it's an intentional foul

2/16/2014 12:01:26 PM

Get over the calls guys. They are what they are and they are the fairest you'll get from college officials. That's why the game will be called almost identical next week in Durham. Not one difference.

2/16/2014 12:04:36 PM

winnable game despite the terrible calling. blame our guys for shooting 40% of the fts we actually did get to shoot

2/16/2014 12:07:33 PM

We could recast ourselves as perpetual scrappy underdogs and never have to worry about this.

Recruit some Little Giants-looking weirdos to ride the bench. Give players nicknames like "Scooby" or "Jelly Roll." Have Gott stand on the sidelines smoking the whole game.

2/16/2014 12:10:36 PM

STFU Jaybee

2/16/2014 12:29:45 PM

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"hey're never gonna call a foul in which there is a clear play at the ball intentional regardless if it's from behind or not"

Define 'clear play at the ball'. What happened is a textbook flagrant 1 where a player fouls from behind with intent to stop a shot. It's called all the time on breakaways. Cooney doesn't come anywhere close to the ball and makes all contact to the back of Warren with his shoulder.

2/16/2014 12:35:47 PM

it was a reach-in foul

he didn't grab him. he was obviously trying to foul, but as he was reaching for the ball, TJ moved it away from him at the last possible second

other than the fact that it was from behind on a breakaway, that's how nearly all late-game fouls look when teams are fouling to catch up

2/16/2014 12:40:12 PM

There were 2 fouls on the play, the first one was a foul with his left hand, and the second was a push to prevent TJ from getting a legal and 1(which caused the extra step, a perfect storm if you will)

2/16/2014 12:40:17 PM

Didn't make contact with the reach arm, made contact from behind with the other arm and shoulder.

2/16/2014 12:41:15 PM

Nonetheless, the foul was given for the reach in

2/16/2014 12:43:07 PM

A great game (for the most part) against the undefeated #1 team in the nation. I'll take it... after I get over it. That was sooo disappointing.

2/16/2014 12:50:19 PM

^^ no shit, it was just the wrong call.

2/16/2014 12:51:16 PM

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"I'm fine with complaining about it. I'm not fine with people tricking themselves into thinking it's an intentional foul"

Fair enough, I was never really thinking intentional foul until I saw Giglio's tweet.

I'm just pissed because that continuation is given 9 out of 10 times in college. I don't care about watching it in slow motion and pulling out the rule book and all that shit because it's given to the top teams consistently and no one questions it. There's no doubt in my mind Syracuse gets that call if the roles had been reversed.

2/16/2014 12:58:12 PM

still hurts...that was a tough one to accept

2/16/2014 1:08:50 PM

so i got the girl back after the game. somehow the night ended with her calling her ex boyfriend to pick her up crying in the parking lot at 2 AM.

NC State shit.


Not even sure ill watch the ACC tournament this year. This team is that bad.

2/16/2014 1:11:55 PM

^^^
This.

Ironic that I'm mentioning this as a Man United fan, haha.

[Edited on February 16, 2014 at 1:12 PM. Reason : ]

2/16/2014 1:12:43 PM

^^
Dont blame refs NC State shit if you couldn't get the job done lol

[Edited on February 16, 2014 at 1:14 PM. Reason : ]

2/16/2014 1:14:07 PM

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" This team is that bad."

after watching them compete an entire game against the #1 team in the country, i'm convinced that we're actually pretty decent. we just make mistakes that young and inexperienced players tend to make sometimes. sorry you got dissed face.

[Edited on February 16, 2014 at 1:16 PM. Reason : and we suck at free throws]

2/16/2014 1:16:28 PM

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"Define 'clear play at the ball'. What happened is a textbook flagrant 1 where a player fouls from behind with intent to stop a shot."

It's hard to foul a player from behind when you're on his side. Take off the red glasses and quit bitching about the refs. Any contact to TJ's back was incidental to the move to swipe at the ball. Yes, he SWIPED AT THE BALL. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "swiping at the ball" is a play at the ball, right?

And people saying he "pushed" TJ are deluding themselves. Coony's right arm only makes contact because the two players collide with each other. TJ was already making a move to the right anyway to set up the layup. The contact occurs on the FT line, the layup happens at the basket, and TJ's movement to the basket seems under control. Stop making something out of nothing and admit that we fucking blew it by committing two turnovers in the last 30 seconds.

2/16/2014 2:45:39 PM

^ With the way acc refs have changed at the very least it should have been 1 and 1. It's hard to sell the fact that one team was in the double bonus half way through the second half and the other didn't even reach the bonus (even with two "had to" fouls at the end) by the end of regulation

Have any acc games ended with a team not in the bonus this year?

2/16/2014 3:05:36 PM

what's wrong with you? why do feel the need to engage in lengthy arguments about it?

2/16/2014 3:06:41 PM

I think burro has used the phrase "blame the team for committing two turnovers in the last 30 Seconds" 5 times since the game ended.

2/16/2014 3:33:15 PM

He's a broken man

2/16/2014 3:39:52 PM

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"i'm convinced that we're actually pretty decent"

we're not terrible...but i'm convinced that Syracuse isn't a national title contender...they play too many close games...they'll face a team in march that gets hot from the outside and will lose

2/16/2014 3:55:42 PM

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"isn't a national title contender...they play too many close games"

sort of like a certain team from 21 years ago

2/16/2014 4:00:20 PM

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"I think burro has used the phrase "blame the team for committing two turnovers in the last 30 Seconds" 5 times since the game ended."

Maybe that's because that what you should be doing...

2/16/2014 4:14:33 PM

1993 Tarheels

2/16/2014 4:14:52 PM

Called too many time outs to set up worthless plays. Could have used those at the endnof the game. Need to get the ball to TJ at end of close games. And Cat still can run the O against a ZONE D.

Need to see a little bit more out of Cat and dez

2/16/2014 4:16:47 PM

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"It's hard to foul a player from behind when you're on his side. Take off the red glasses and quit bitching about the refs. Any contact to TJ's back was incidental to the move to swipe at the ball. Yes, he SWIPED AT THE BALL. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "swiping at the ball" is a play at the ball, right? And people saying he "pushed" TJ are deluding themselves. Coony's right arm only makes contact because the two players collide with each other. TJ was already making a move to the right anyway to set up the layup. The contact occurs on the FT line, the layup happens at the basket, and TJ's movement to the basket seems under control. Stop making something out of nothing and admit that we fucking blew it by committing two turnovers in the last 30 seconds."

Warren had Cooney beat, Cooney runs into the back of Warren's left shoulder, then Cooney swipes but comes nowhere close to the ball and fails to make any contact with the swipe at all. 100% of the contact comes from behind.

2/16/2014 7:58:57 PM

except for the fact that there was no contact from behind.

2/16/2014 9:28:04 PM

Well except that Warren had the ball in his right hand, the guy comes from the back on his left side, puts his arm on his back and reaches around at the ball, so the initial contact was on his back. Yes he swiped at the ball, but the initial contact was on Warren's lower back and he had to go completely across Warren's body to "swipe" at the ball.

I'm sure this play just made TJ that much more ready to be in the NBA next year, haha.

2/17/2014 8:28:03 AM

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"I'm sure this play just made TJ that much more ready to be in the NBA next year, haha."

2/17/2014 11:36:56 AM

Check out this continuation call from the same day that you apparently don't get in college

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO6uDTF3D7o&t=1m0s

@1:00


[Edited on February 17, 2014 at 4:41 PM. Reason : .]

2/17/2014 4:41:13 PM

The referees first need to show consistency intra-game. Only then can we expect the faggot refs to maintain consistency across games...

[Edited on February 17, 2014 at 4:58 PM. Reason : ]

2/17/2014 4:58:16 PM