thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I actually am not. I'm an equal opportunity hater." |
I'm sure you believe that this is a suitable shield, but it's not
you kind of have a long history on here that is super easy to look up
[Edited on August 19, 2014 at 3:42 PM. Reason : .]8/19/2014 3:41:33 PM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
Here we go... http://www.ksdk.com/story/local/2014/01/01/14293199/?storyid=14293199 8/19/2014 3:54:48 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
but it's not racist if I also dislike mexicans, women, homosexuals, and anyone different than me! 8/19/2014 3:55:23 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^according to the multiple eye-witness accounts, that sounds somewhat justified, although sounds like he might have had some mental issues. 8/19/2014 3:58:53 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
YET, the locals are organizing to protest anyway.
This is just proof the truth doesn't matter, people just looking for a reason to protest, riot, loot, etc... 8/19/2014 4:02:38 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is just proof the truth doesn't matter, people just looking for a reason to protest, riot, loot, etc..." |
Or you're a racist and we can't take anything you say at face value.8/19/2014 4:04:09 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is just proof the truth doesn't matter, people just looking for a reason to protest, riot, loot, etc..." |
I think that might be your problem. You base your "truth"s and "proof"s of society on single incidents.8/19/2014 4:05:34 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bullet ^^according to the multiple eye-witness accounts, that sounds somewhat justified, although sounds like he might have had some mental issues." |
In the perfect world, or the UK, he would have been apprehended and given the mental health treatment he needs.
But it's par for America for people to use guns as a substitute for courage, especially cops.8/19/2014 5:02:58 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think that might be your problem. You base your "truth"s and "proof"s of society on single incidents [and racism]." |
8/19/2014 5:03:14 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I think he thinks like this "Well, there are some blacks that are rioting and looting..... therefore most blacks are rioters and looters" 8/19/2014 5:12:28 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
^^^so....bring courage to a knife fight? 8/19/2014 5:31:52 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
if someone has a knife and is obviously mentally unstable, then just back up and wait
[Edited on August 19, 2014 at 5:37 PM. Reason : Restricted said its okay to shoot them after 3 hours] 8/19/2014 5:37:27 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " This is just proof the truth doesn't matter, people just looking for a reason to protest, riot, loot, etc..." |
I think you're confusing the word "proof" with your dumbass opinion.
But let's pretend you're right (coincidentally, this is probably the only way you can be right....when we pretend):
You're a police chief. People are upset and looking for a reason to protest. The town next door is going tits up. Why give your angry town a reason to join in on the protesting? If you're truly concerned with maintaining the peace, you think you might wanna stop killing people for a few days if you can avoid it?
[Edited on August 19, 2014 at 5:51 PM. Reason : ]8/19/2014 5:42:47 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
how come cops love to use tasers when civilians mouth off or when the cop wants a good laugh, but in a situation where a taser would actually make sense the cops in St. Louis just shoot people? Do the cops in that area not carry tasers? 8/19/2014 5:52:11 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
well for this particular incident:
Quote : | ""@ReporterFaith: Chief: lethal force was presented to officers so they responded w/lethal force. At that range taser would not be effective"" |
8/19/2014 6:09:41 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ because the fergson PD don't view their job as to protect and serve. They're just there to collect a paycheck while having as little integrity as possible.
[Edited on August 19, 2014 at 6:10 PM. Reason : ] 8/19/2014 6:10:33 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just back up and wait" |
LOL...you've obviously never been approached by a knife-wielding mentally unstable person before.8/19/2014 6:11:33 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ i'm sure these people have
Quote : | "In 2012, 409 people were shot and killed by American police in what were termed justifiable shootings. In that same year, British police officers fired their weapons just once. No one was killed. " |
Either British police are way cooler than American police, or british people don't ever try to stab anyone.8/19/2014 6:25:00 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Stringer Bell is a pretty good cop, in my opinion
[Edited on August 19, 2014 at 6:28 PM. Reason : ]
8/19/2014 6:27:54 PM |
Ultraspank All American 626 Posts user info edit post |
SMC I'm going to call you out... You think you know so much about Raleigh and Durham and Wake County's equipment.
You're wrong.
You have two pictures of the same white armored "wells fargo" vehicle which belongs to Raleigh. Raleigh does not have an MRAP. These are very rarely deployed.
WCSO owns the larger grey armored vehicle which is the closest thing you'll see to a MRAP in Wake County. This is also very rarely deployed.
Raleigh has that white armored vehicle and an older one that is similar but smaller to that one.
ALSO, Raleigh does not have 6 RV's used for mass processing. They have two (one big, one small) RV's which are used for MOBILE COMMAND SITES.
You know not what you think you do. 8/19/2014 6:34:31 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
so what you're saying is that Raleigh is not ready for the zombie apocalypse. 8/19/2014 6:49:22 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""In 2012, 409 people were shot and killed by American police in what were termed justifiable shootings. In that same year, British police officers fired their weapons just once. No one was killed. " |
I'd argue the UK does not have the same socio-economic issues that the US has also the only discharging a firearm once seems kinda low. Is there a source?8/19/2014 7:19:00 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Uh yeah they do
Also, how are they out of range for a taser but the victim was in range with his knife? 8/19/2014 7:24:58 PM |
TULIPlovr All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/ 8/19/2014 7:25:26 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
I was quite entertained reading some of the other material on http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/
Quite 8/19/2014 7:37:41 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Lol may as well post Limbaugh clips up in here too 8/19/2014 7:41:02 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd argue the UK does not have the same socio-economic issues that the US has " |
Obviously you mean black people, and we all know they have them too
They also have a pretty high poverty rate if you wanna pretend that's what you meant.8/19/2014 7:41:28 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ since guns are mostly banned, they have higher knife attacks per capita too.
Only 1 person killed by police in Iceland since 1944:
Quote : | "She was referring to a 59-year old man who was shot by police on Monday. The man, who started shooting at police when they entered his building, had a history of mental illness.
It's the first time someone has been killed by armed police in Iceland since it became an independent republic in 1944. Police don't even carry weapons, usually. Violent crime in Iceland is almost non-existent.
"The nation does not want its police force to carry weapons because it's dangerous, it's threatening," Arnorsdottir says. "It's a part of the culture. Guns are used to go hunting as a sport, but you never see a gun."" |
http://www.pri.org/stories/2013-12-03/iceland-grieves-after-police-kill-man-first-time-its-history
USA #1...
I'm starting to think we might actually be a violent country...
[Edited on August 19, 2014 at 7:47 PM. Reason : ]8/19/2014 7:43:40 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd argue the UK does not have the same socio-economic issues that the US has also the only discharging a firearm once seems kinda low. Is there a source? " |
maybe they may have swat team/FBI type agents that handle the shoot-y criminals.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/08/armed-police?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/triggerhappy8/19/2014 7:58:57 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd argue the UK does not have the same socio-economic issues that the US has" |
Hahahaha......oh, man. I love when racists try to intellectually hide their racism...like, "hmmmm....maybe if I say it this way, I won't come across as such a small minded bastard." It's like watching Where's Waldo try to hide in an empty room. Yeah dude, we see you.8/19/2014 8:34:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
in the UK they just keep the tense standoffs going until tea time, then the cops and criminals have some tea together 8/19/2014 8:46:53 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
they have to, it's the law. 8/19/2014 8:55:32 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
All police chases are conducted to the Benny Hill theme, too. 8/19/2014 9:01:08 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
ITT I learned that england doesn't have poor people or rich people. 8/19/2014 9:01:47 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
I'll just leave this here... http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=1323 8/19/2014 9:05:14 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
ITT I learned that no matter what someone says, if JesusHChrist thinks they're racist, then everything they say is either blatant racism, or thinly veiled racism. 8/19/2014 9:13:26 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah, I never thought anyone would try to paint UK as the picture of civility until this thread. They riot and lynch over which boring ass soccer team you cheer for.
[Edited on August 19, 2014 at 9:19 PM. Reason : ^^] 8/19/2014 9:19:06 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
didnt someone get their head cut off along with a pair of shootings in woolwich last may
UK is plenty cray 8/19/2014 9:42:28 PM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
93% of the arrests were not from FGS 8/19/2014 9:45:30 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ are you arguing that HUR isn't a racist? 8/20/2014 12:38:54 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Funny london had furguso. Happen a few years back iirc 8/20/2014 3:38:42 AM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson could very well be acquitted: http://www.newsweek.com/how-strong-legal-case-against-darren-wilson-265675
However, I haven't found corroboration for reports that bones around one of Wilson's eyes were broken, other than a CT scan illustration taken out of context, and references in the ever-unreliable right-wing media to "sources" from some government agency or other
Below is the reverse Google Image Search for that image from the Gateway Pundit. https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZivB0uQT5ITxytGu1V42Mb2yhCIOsB2vr3h7xrd-iWbPAikJ40OXyVVZ6pfx9ih0_1W4kxLbHfm2TpkgjjIm7cZTY2Ge-NpjSPXtQc5Mk6Oa3mMTZn8TRAgSvvjSmxt1EYWhzcIC7yU2Rz2xZxQGgXjqWFVnqJImxwvb12SOVwWhjrLEBP0MK-mEWw5msEldDaeHcdcYC6tx8yoUBi7MUlfjOTY6enY4vDTDpXFncW04mlXqvUXl8x1psqvGvGkcIPMJjsKB6vj1JwEF19mtxUDIgruq91Tvg3pJCC5ECpvytc1UYSFGayExWD_1KdTsKVhmI5zLFIDXVWHoAv5H5MR7FFyGVOWWVYmbdeVnOeZnJXJSq0uyeSPs6oG8K7oKHRp8c0OMU-v_18KdxNr3EnOaAhULLe74_1esgWYVVwq08gY5977-0167Cy1c4-Syht8wLZS81kNo8E6dsnZUI6Fr1u5DwL0DeGVNa8FS9tr-VxT4gELRi3gbbXtXSDm8zkEn1Tsz3ZNtuM8w1cjiNaeDjb3qLogIXPmF6xti-Icgufk8VjiEvQyAR_12I6KCfo4eWs-Pbv_1GRXJ_1LGxPyA7sWpsZ5X71cJbP8Lsy7guuznvC_1FPIsgwyP8hZbvegdcvb4VsB0tsh2CtAQwjoLOgRx_1Y0J9_1CSxS3ZLfhGyO0Zq5KqI2nmeZsx4DR-2_1MA9W0lbv0bgUR-6ZO4RrSnXmqOUO4KDHI6EjOsK7C442oTAzdE3EieUi5wsKfOZbzGDIVXWzziaDnJrSmQcY63nJz3dUeyHEZ-kQ7-Ow0WJjcxt_1-uPYsIcAtlTrufr3yKtzeQwy7JdoSrxgs6IepaiqFLSbNv8G3IdotiAYNYosAqWLLxpkhve5x0j9Zm3fvxVD9cuGBg3dTdsRcqk9n9syQR3DzMyFL80LR6ynHgMLtOvqtiX_1zHk6e6ITOIk-EH0Hil34Lh2Nvt15FvtLfxhtyKSxUrBZsd8z3RBfaeenHdNfienxI8mgh0-Su1_1Z4vSuoLd7AR8Z-xYoRXWnxE9zlhCt8JVXFIcdoXHM0Cv1Yclp4ZNnlvpWvFR9pPPBFWLyJULPea-KDyQBROgDsOiGHpWcQYDj8kl1SOa-mcP3iNvxOjxOLE5AaCMk4hRpP2E4S_1ea8YzR_1bI5Hh3GhQjKqLKUNuXwitnSDbFlkIWmK0Y15CnDQBaLDP3OLwHZFB8DW2fv6J-8sGCCy-4V6NvJIvvS3pNWjGk5rTiLgEcrwf50rX68ouiOE59OSJYpKkI4Q6DQ4k2GqyiNBzrJnzlJ12WZyFsKZu90z8YzPe5j1npPucKsGr2e1fZfW488BWgylFJgOhPOpW-REGeZ47cSs6eqGDXY6vgOOelu2IN_1-l8Z7h1leLeKIYOAn7HCXSWmljD4vaZ9mcgREoXmitPyb6RKpVOtZ3zRU5hu1-4u7_1nvuvKc4ynaE&width=0&height=0 8/20/2014 4:31:26 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ He probably will just because he's the only living member of this encounter. Unless there is some major physical evidence casting doubt on his version, i can't see any charges sticking.
His story per his "friend" calling news outlets seems to hinge on Brown charging him before being shot at. If Brown's lawyer could convince a jury that Brown was being shot at before he started moving back to Wilson's car or while his hands were up, then i could see Wilson being in some trouble.
also, they reference that as a "file image", although it does look like they're trying to trick people, they have it in the fine print it's just a file picture. There's no real info on the exact nature of Wilson's injuries at this point.
[Edited on August 20, 2014 at 6:51 AM. Reason : ] 8/20/2014 6:50:16 AM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
So what happens when/if we find out that the police version of events is actually what happened? That the cop was assaulted through the car window by the kid, the kid tried to go for the gun, the gun went off, he tried to run, decided he'd be better off to turn and fight, charged the cop, then got shot 6 times? No hands in the air, no surrender, just a bull rush.
That's exactly the type of situation in which we authorize police officers to use deadly force.
But if that's the truth, and they release it, no one in Ferguson will believe it anyway, and the residents will spend the next month burning their town to the ground in anger. 8/20/2014 8:14:55 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Wait the police released a report detailing their version and of events?
[Edited on August 20, 2014 at 8:39 AM. Reason : and we also know "actually" what happened?]
[Edited on August 20, 2014 at 8:47 AM. Reason : do we also know "actually" what happened with the Travon Martin case?] 8/20/2014 8:38:31 AM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
Ok fair enough, lets say they release an their official version of events and it matches what I outlined ^^. 8/20/2014 9:03:17 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
You dont get shot try to run and then turn arpund and charge. Fight or flight instincts dpnt work that way. 8/20/2014 9:16:21 AM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not asking if you think it's probable 8/20/2014 9:19:22 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hahahaha......oh, man. I love when racists try to intellectually hide their racism" |
If you think socioeconomic problems have no relation/correlation to crime, then you're blatantly ignoring facts. To call someone who brings up socioeconomics and crime a racist is to ignore facts and cheapens the issue. Further, I don't see how you can call others racist when it is your thought that is actually racist (socioeconomics == race in your thought process). Race plays a role in socioeconomics; not the other way around.8/20/2014 9:20:36 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
that comment was not made about the quote in a vacuum, if you read the other posts his racism is pretty obvious 8/20/2014 9:25:46 AM |