Holy shit that hurt

3/8/2018 8:05:32 AM

https://youtu.be/cP2ZBj6gxVA

I laughed.

So Spursy

3/8/2018 1:29:59 PM

Can’t beat Brighton but out here ripping up Milan. Might as well pull a United and say fuck it to the league..

3/8/2018 1:53:41 PM

Not trying to talk shit but the league is already over for you. We still had a chance at a top 4 finish until the last 3 or so matches. I think the arsenal away match is what made us prioritize Europa after.

It is def Europa or nothing now for you guys. Ozil has been a class above today.

3/8/2018 2:17:47 PM

I know the attacking football savants here will disagree but clearest way to beat Liverpool is beat the press by going long.

If Fellaini is fit I want to see him get the start in a midfield three with Matic and Pogba. Fellaini being the furthest forward. Matic the breaker on Liverpool's counters and Pogba the one dictating by pinging balls to Lukaku and Fellaini. Sanchez and Martial/Lingard can play off Lukaku and Fellaini with full backs providing width as necessary. The trouble here is Lukaku isn't great at hold up so Fellaini would have to do the job to bring the ball in and quickly lay it off.

Let Liverpool have a majority of the possession but swift counters and long balls up to disrupt the press and we can score 2. I am going for a classic 1-0 but could easily backfire and end up 2-1 if our full backs aren't up for this against Mane and Salah. Personally would love to see Bailly start in defense with Young as well instead of Shaw. Bailly holds the key as he has the pace to keep up with Liverpool's quick forwards. Need tactical discipline in defense.

Simple for Liverpool too. United's midfield doesn't handle the press well and if they congest the middle and United don't offer width then it will be a difficult day for United. Set the tone early and disrupt Pogba and they can be deadly. Liverpool certainly in much better form at the moment and will be confident of a result. I do hope Klopp chooses to open up and take the game to us. I think its our best chance of by passing the press to counter quickly. In all honesty I don't think Klopp will play an expansive game plan. He knows Mourinho will want him to do that but the key for Liverpool is setting the tone in midfield. United's defense hasn't been up to scratch with Lindelof and Smalling so disrupting Pogba and Matic and running at our center halves will be the key there.

3/9/2018 10:16:51 AM

^ good summary.

tl;dr United needs to play like pussies to get a result

FUCK UNITED

3/10/2018 7:29:23 AM

fair play. dominating 1st half for United so far. Liverpool haven't looked this bad since Spurs in October

3/10/2018 8:11:20 AM

go ahead wazza you've earned it.

Last 30 minutes of that game sucked so much ass. Just terribly frustrating. I'd almost rather lose 3-0 than watch that again.

3/10/2018 9:40:16 AM

Looks like things got a little wild at west ham today

3/10/2018 12:30:07 PM

We got lucky today. Palace got hosed on that disallowed goal.

3/10/2018 2:40:42 PM

Didn't love the refereeing or lovren but united just better today

With some consistency, United prob could have challenged for first

3/10/2018 2:58:49 PM

Look I am not trying to talk shit but we basically did what I summarized above. If you honestly think we played like pussies for having a legitimate tactic to beat Livwrpool then all I have to say is I disagree. This was not a Bus parking.

That said few thoughts:
1. Trent is young and he has put in great performances before (against United even) but today Rashford took advantage.
2. Lukaku and McTominay made this possible for us. We played as team and Jose tactically was better. Bypassing Pools midfield was key but we need McTominay to continue breaking up the play and be smart with his forward passes (which he did) and Lukaku had to execute his hold up play in the final third. Side note: really impressed with lukaku this season. He tries and honestly that is the least we could ask for. Today he was unplayable for 45 min.
3. Salah. I don’t know how we negated him but there was a clear focus on ensuring Salah did not have space to operate today. He still had a chance at the end but credit to Young. I don’t think it helped that Mane didn’t have a good match to fee up Salah more because we clearly prioritized letting Mane have the ball over Salah. This brings me back to Trent. Liverpool should have created width by letting Salah drift inside and exploring the space created by the double team on Salah to play through Trent on the wing.

Overall I think Jose got his tactics right but Liverpool were threatening. It was tactically a great matchup and much better than that Anfield draw.

3/10/2018 3:39:40 PM

Manchester United's centre-backs have scored more goals (2) against David De Gea than Liverpool's, Manchester City's, Tottenham's and Chelsea's forwards combined (1) this season

3/11/2018 1:31:41 AM

^^ lol I was serious about the "good summary" part before the game and the rest was me just being an asshole.

You were right but it was also pretty obvious that was going to be the game plan which is why I don't understand why we weren't expecting the long ball over the top. TAA definitely showed his inexperience and Lovren is Lovren.

All the focus post-game was on how they shut down Salah but I feel like it's overlooked how much they limited Firmino's influence. He's the reason everything works for us and why Salah usually gets so much space. I only remember a handful of times Firmino had the ball in a dangerous position. Mane had the ball a lot more than both Firmino/Salah because he was dropping back behind our midfielders to get it. Only when Lallana came in did the midfield have any kind of positive influence going forward.

Not an excuse because LFC didn't deserve shit from the game but the refereeing definitely helped United out in the second half. Just inconsistent and constant stoppages. Excruciating to watch.

3/11/2018 10:23:18 AM

Boys Petr Cech just saved a penalty

3/11/2018 10:50:56 AM

hot damn that Vardy goal from yesterday

3/11/2018 11:42:51 AM

The refereeing was bad, I agree. I think Mane deserved the penalty but the hand ball would have been a tough call since I don't think Valencia was trying to play the ball and seems he is even trying to get his arm out of the way but you could argue it is a peno and we have seen those given before.

The ref did call a lot of the fouls and I think in the second half Mourinho even instructed our forwards to go down with contact. Allowed our defense to breath and move up the pitch every time we got a call. The ref could have put a stop to that from the beginning but he constantly kept calling those fouls. Also not sure how Smalling escaped a yellow for bringing Salah down.

Not gonna lie but if we get past Sevilla I don't want Liverpool again till at least the Semi's (if both of us make it there). Klopp and the players would be well up for it after that game.

[Edited on March 11, 2018 at 1:49 PM. Reason : a]

3/11/2018 1:47:56 PM

one of the worst decisions was stopping play when firmino had the ball in an attacking position for a non-head injury. Somebody gets hit in the nuts, better stop play! Of course United gets to just boot it back to Karius.

3/11/2018 2:09:05 PM

^ I wondered about that myself and I think the ref thought it was a head injury. I would certainly be complaining about the decision to stop the play if the places were switched but I can also understand why he would.

^^ Vardy's shit talk after was hilarious. The man is such a chav but I would love nothing more than Vardy talking shit to the Russians at the World Cup.

3/11/2018 2:41:54 PM

^^^^ and finally got that clean sheet

3/11/2018 11:46:22 PM

scotieb24

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"We got lucky today. Palace got hosed on that disallowed goal. "

Luck or not I will take the 3 points and the positive vibes heading to the Camp Nou. We have to keep pace with Spurs/Pool for that last UCL spots.

I have been very impressed with McTominay, and had ManU not drawn so many matches in Holiday fixture glut they would probably be challenging Man City on the run in.

3/12/2018 10:47:50 AM

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"I have been very impressed with McTominay, and had ManU not drawn so many matches in Holiday fixture glut they would probably be challenging Man City on the run in."

I have been saying this for a while now. The three draw over christmas is what killed our title challenge. Obviously we aren't as good as city but this is IMO down to the imbalance in midfield, injuries in defense, and the young players like Rashford and Martial being inconsistent. Those are three games we should have won and on balance of play deserved to win.

There is a lot to be positive about for us going forward though. For some context we are 4 points away from our highest ever points total post fergie with 8 games to go. If not for City's record breaking form this would be an amazing title race.

[Edited on March 12, 2018 at 2:35 PM. Reason : a]

3/12/2018 2:34:58 PM

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"being inconsistent"

3/12/2018 3:01:29 PM

#fakenews

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"young players like Rashford and Martial being inconsistent."

3/12/2018 4:07:01 PM

Huge day for us. Haven't made the quarters since that Moyes season where we fluked it. That said I think this team has a lot of experience after last year's Europa and Mourinho will be ready for it. I would hate to go out on away goals but that is what we risked after the 0-0 in Sevilla.

I think 3-1 should be achievable if our attackers show up and I hope Rashford gets the nod again after the weekend. Buzzing for a CL playoff night at Old Trafford though. If we can't get the job done today we don't deserve to be in the final 8.

3/13/2018 9:00:48 AM

I'm lolin

3/13/2018 5:24:48 PM

^

3/13/2018 5:31:30 PM

^, ^^, bitter and obsessed


That said I am also lollin but for different reasons

3/13/2018 5:40:08 PM

At least we got knocked out by a legit team

3/13/2018 5:42:52 PM

What a shit show of a performance that. I don’t understand why Mourinho didn’t go with the same lineup as Liverpool. 100% on Mourinho. Amazing how much of a 180 that was from Saturday. Fellaini was mostly a passenger and frankly Pogba wasn’t much better. Didn’t deserve anything from that. Honestly if Mourinho insists on approaching CL matches like that against teams like Sevilla then he needs to do something different.

Enjoy the loss. We deserved it.

3/13/2018 6:08:36 PM

why do Pogba and Mourinho seem to hate each other

3/13/2018 6:22:10 PM

I didn't realize Kane was out until May

3/13/2018 6:23:25 PM

^^ did you watch the game. Pogba was somehow as bad as Fellaini. I don't blame Mourinho for dropping him and he also did have a legit injury the last week. But wow Pogba needs to get it together. He is a shadow of himself.

3/13/2018 6:25:20 PM

They haven't even done the scan yet and it's the daily mirror

3/13/2018 6:25:56 PM

ah ok, somebody just texted me about it so i didn't see where it was from. I actually didn't realize he was hurt at all though either

3/13/2018 6:44:12 PM

Honestly it didn't even look that bad. He just rolled it. He walked off and then was getting ready to come back in the match before the physio stopped him.

Obviously could be wrong but I doubt it's serious.

3/13/2018 7:21:51 PM

tHe NeGaTiVe FoOtBaLl DoEsN't MaTtEr If It GeTs ReSuLtS

3/14/2018 6:57:22 AM

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"Amazing how much of a 180 that was from Saturday."

Hmmm trying to think of a word that describes different performances from week to week

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"Enjoy the loss. We deserved it"

:prayer hands emoji:

3/14/2018 8:19:24 AM

Lol. The overreactions are frankly hilarious. I wish we should have started chatting shit about how much of a failure it is to sit in 4th after three years with Klopp and winning nothing.

As soon as united lose a game we shouldn't the schadenfreude brigade out in force. Love it.

[Edited on March 14, 2018 at 8:24 AM. Reason : D]

3/14/2018 8:23:48 AM

A Vintage Mourinho CL performance. He has one trophy and 1 final in his CL history and that was over 10 years ago.

Can't figure out what was worse Spurs Collapse or ManU shutting the bed

More than likely the PL will be down to Pool and Citeh in the CL though I hope Chelsea pulls the upset today.

3/14/2018 8:30:34 AM

Btw Ed Glazer is another great reason to root against United

3/14/2018 9:20:23 AM

We were the better team for the majority of both legs of our tie. We played our attacking game and really went after it against the finalists two of the last three years.

Yes we got undone by some naivety on our part and savy play on Juve's end, but that's nowhere near as embarrassing as play for a draw at home against a team with a negative goal diff and 11 losses in la liga.

[Edited on March 14, 2018 at 9:22 AM. Reason : Juve hadn't even been scored on in 2018 until we went to Turin]

3/14/2018 9:22:01 AM

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"A Vintage Mourinho CL performance. He has one trophy and 1 final in his CL history and that was over 10 years ago."

Actually he has two CL trophies and since you love bringing in "facts" you should also realize that Mourinho has an insane record of making CL semi finals. One loss and he is all of a sudden shit.

Love that the media and rival fans have their whole week made when United lose. Its cute that they only come out of the woodwork after every loss.

How embarrassing is it that Liverpool and Tottenham sit behind this shit negative playing United team? I mean the talk is that we are probably the worst team in PL history innit?

[Edited on March 14, 2018 at 9:34 AM. Reason : a]

3/14/2018 9:33:27 AM

It's crazy how oblivious you are to your cocky demeanor and the shit you talk, then you act like when people start (rightfully) clowning United we're all somehow just haters in your mind.

3/14/2018 9:38:17 AM

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"It's crazy how oblivious you are to your cocky demeanor and the shit you talk, then you act like when people start (rightfully) clowning United we're all somehow just haters in your mind."

I love this. Cocky demeanor for saying we deserved to lose? Its also hilarious that I am cocky after all of the shit you have said this season. Give me one valid point you have made about United? All I have seen is you taking the result yesterday as a microcosm for United playing defensive football. You are literally shitting on a team that is ahead of you on the table, has scored more goals than you, and supposedly has had a worse three years with instability.

If United's loss yesterday is so embarrassing then what does it say for a spurs team who have had more stability and supposedly a better team that plays attacking football and still can't find a way to be better than this United team?

You lost to Juve. Congrats, as if that makes it any less ok at the way you embarrassingly crumbled.

3/14/2018 9:57:25 AM

Forgot about the Inter CL Trophy for Mourinho. Still while Mourinho has gotten to a number of CL finals its his MO to sit back and play his game. It works for the most part in England. Unfortunately year 2 is normally Mourinho's best season with his clubs based on history and it looks like its FA Cup or bust for silverware this year as it is for Chelsea and Spurs as well.

Kane is out until April and will miss the game at the Bridge and may miss the Citeh game as well. Salah should be in the drivers seat for the Golden Boot unless he picks up an injury.

3/14/2018 10:36:04 AM

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"He is, let’s not forget, history’s greatest monster, and after spending half a billion trillion pounds he’s put together a team that plays football even Sam Allardyce would consider distasteful – and that’s saying something about a man who looks like he would happily eat a worm sandwich."

By no means meant to instigate - just really funny to me: Ramblings about Mourinho (and Allardyce!)

3/14/2018 10:37:36 AM

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"All I have seen is you taking the result yesterday as a microcosm for United playing defensive football. You are literally shitting on a team that is ahead of you on the table, has scored more goals than you, and supposedly has had a worse three years with instability. "

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"How embarrassing is it that Liverpool and Tottenham sit behind this shit negative playing United team? I mean the talk is that we are probably the worst team in PL history innit? "

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"If United's loss yesterday is so embarrassing then what does it say for a spurs team who have had more stability and supposedly a better team that plays attacking football and still can't find a way to be better than this United team? You lost to Juve. Congrats, as if that makes it any less ok at the way you embarrassingly crumbled."

This wazza. This is exactly the shit you do that makes everyone here hate you. Even in defeat you're cocky and condescending for no apparent reason. United are playing shit football. Literally everyone that follows the game can see it. It's not like we're breaking ground here at tww. Just own it.

3/14/2018 10:50:14 AM

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"Forgot about the Inter CL Trophy for Mourinho. Still while Mourinho has gotten to a number of CL finals its his MO to sit back and play his game."

That's fine but he also has the ability to adjust to the situation. I am pretty certain Mourinho knows he got it wrong behind the scenes. I am not going to overreact to a bad loss and start talking about money spent, sacking a manager, and defensive football. Its a joke that one result is used to basically shit on the three very good results before this.

Its hilarious that the same people criticizing Mourinho were also talking shit about United losing its identity, not backing its manager, and money. Now we have some stability after years and they want to talk about negative football. I hear a lot of blah blah blah.

I would rather take a step back and look at the big picture. The progression is clear and if people want to hate on that progress by calling it "shit" football then I really don't care. Mourinho will have had an acceptable season if he finishes top 4. It would certainly show some progress from the previous 3 years.

3/14/2018 10:50:39 AM

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"This wazza. This is exactly the shit you do that makes everyone here hate you. Even in defeat you're cocky and condescending for no apparent reason. United are playing shit football. Literally everyone that follows the game can see it. It's not like we're breaking ground here at tww. Just own it."

So you want to call United shit but don't want to face the fact that we are still better than you? League table doesn't lie.... You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Perhaps instead of making it so black and white you can easily say United were shit yesterday but brilliant on Saturday. Nope what you are doing is taking one result and using it to say oh hurr durr defensive shit team. Its amazing how much of the shit talk is basically just a repetition. I mean at least be original about it.

3/14/2018 10:53:27 AM