carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
Oh so you both we're being children. However you are still the most useless idiot on here. 1/17/2014 1:20:07 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
My posts were all as serious as he deserved, especially after he derailed a good, productive debate in the gun thread.
the dealership doesn't have any off-lease shoulders with leather, but he promised me that the Korean models are good quality now and they have leather and nav. With financing now, a new shoulder is basically the same price as off-lease so I'll probably get a new Korean shoulder (apparently they are made in Alabama) 1/17/2014 5:32:05 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And having an untreated broken leg causes someone to live in pain for the rest of their life, just like a flat tire would on their car." |
What kind of auto insurance do you have where it covers a flat tire? 1/17/2014 8:30:02 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
my tire insurance covers tire damage and AAA covers towing/ changing tire
[Edited on January 17, 2014 at 8:40 AM. Reason : but you missed his point, because flat tires don't cause you to live in pain for your entire life] 1/17/2014 8:39:03 AM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Fine, broken axle, dead alternator, cracked windshield, who gives a fuck 1/17/2014 10:46:58 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/27/obama-announces-my-brothers-keeper/?hpt=hp_t2 2/28/2014 9:36:41 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ i like it. 2/28/2014 10:55:47 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
which part did you like specifically?
the part where he was high or the part where black men are dumb because their fathers left?
obamas new mission, fix black marriages before 2016. 2/28/2014 11:50:05 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
i liked the part where he was high.
and "dumb" is a bit of spin. do you feel what he said didn't reflect reality? 2/28/2014 12:01:04 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
explain to me how society keeps black men from leaving their baby mommas
of course what he said reflects reality, but its not something we or him can "fix."
the chief reason being i dont think these black males want "fixing." 2/28/2014 12:16:10 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
It's an obvious issue in America that needs addressing. Maybe it can't be "fixed", but it can be improved.
(and if we can't keep the families together, more abortions!!) 2/28/2014 12:18:20 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
i mean more abortions, fine whatever, thats a simple logical and demonstrable "solution."
but dont state the obvious, the dissolution of the black family, and blame 4th grade reading comprehension on it.
sure there is an obvious tie, but again, what the fuck is the government going to do about it?
when i was in elementary school all the kids from obviously shitty/broken homes were in remedial classes and the ones i still track on fb have minimum wage jobs. explain to me how obama could have changed their lives if he was president 20-30 years ago?
otherwise this is just another well-intentioned yet hollow speech from our backpatter-in-chief. 2/28/2014 12:31:50 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sure there is an obvious tie, but again, what the fuck is the government going to do about it?" |
create a program that focuses more attention on it and looks for solutions? i mean, come on man, we know that he isn't going to change any lives, but it's not like this is a bad thing.
Quote : | "otherwise this is just another well-intentioned yet hollow speech from our backpatter-in-chief." |
doesn't every politician do this exact same thing?
[Edited on February 28, 2014 at 12:36 PM. Reason : ]2/28/2014 12:34:53 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
would the program youre referring to focus on the broken family or the dumb kids at school?
because as i mentioned they are already stuck in remedial classes. what is the point of those existing if the end result is still failure?
do remedial classes lead to leaving the baby momma?
am i being a racist? 2/28/2014 12:49:19 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
What about all of the young white males (and females) growing up in single family homes? Why make a program to just help black males in that situation?
[Edited on February 28, 2014 at 1:16 PM. Reason : ] 2/28/2014 1:16:16 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Statistics?
And why it gotta be called "My Brother's Keeper"? 2/28/2014 1:25:58 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
why not make a program to help single-parent kids... no race or gender attached. if black males make up the vast majority of those people, then naturally they would receive the majority of the benefit. 2/28/2014 1:46:00 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Why don't you wait and see what they come up with before you start shitting on it? 2/28/2014 2:03:18 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
That seems like a giant waste of time, Smath74 is going to be against anything that Obama supports. dude reads The Blaze 2/28/2014 2:27:16 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "when i was in elementary school all the kids from obviously shitty/broken homes were in remedial classes and the ones i still track on fb have minimum wage jobs. explain to me how obama could have changed their lives if he was president 20-30 years ago?" |
he could have stopped the stupid war on drugs before it gained so much momentum. This policy, more than any other in this time frame, has disproportionately affected black males, so much so that it has led to the almost total breakdown of the black family structure.2/28/2014 9:18:16 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/03/118668-remember-obama-mocking-romney-foreign-policy-question-2012-campaign/ 3/2/2014 1:20:10 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Now Smath, don't forget that Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. He's gonna fix it. He's smart. 3/2/2014 8:10:32 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Shit. Sarah Palin was right. We should have elected her president. 3/2/2014 8:55:59 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
So what would Romney, the loser, do in this situation... Surely he knows the right answer, and Obama does not 3/2/2014 9:01:05 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
What exactly do critics of Obamas reaction want him to do? Invade Ukraine and get into a shooting war with Russia? 3/2/2014 9:02:04 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Who's criticizing? On the contrary, I believe that his high IQ, top notch cabinet led by John Kerry, and his skills he learned as a community organizer will be more than a match for anything Putin can throw at him. 3/2/2014 10:23:36 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
Russia still isn't the #1 geopolitical threat to the US, so I fail to see what the problem is.
Russia wants Crimea under their thumb. Ok.
Explain how Russia is now more of a threat to the US than extremist Muslim terrorism. 3/2/2014 10:43:16 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
you fail to see the problem that Obama basically can't handle things that aren't our number 1 geopolitical concern? Stop and think about what you are saying there, chief. 3/2/2014 11:02:03 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
Why does he need to "handle" this? 3/2/2014 11:10:46 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
This isn't really a partisan scenario that has a conservative/liberal dichotomy. I'm not sure why people are trying to frame it this way. We can't "free market" our way out of this problem. I understand people wanting to hate Obama, but this isn't a good issue to try and beat him with.
Whether you're a liberal or conservative, getting into a direct military conflict with Russia is a bad thing no matter how you look at it. This is to be avoided if at all possible. Standing by our treaties is also of utmost importance. There are other diplomatic nuances I'm sure that none of us could even fathom. An offhand comment by Romney, and especially Palin, has literally zero bearing on this situation. Conservatives like things to be black and white, and this isn't a black and white situation. 3/2/2014 11:22:37 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree with most of that, which is why I don't put too much stock in this ongoing shit. But, you have to admit that Russia acting in this manner pretty much goes to show that they don't give a single shit about what Obama says, and that's not the most comforting thought. I mean, he said "hey, we need to chat this out" and Russia essentially said "fuck off, we'll do what we want." 3/2/2014 11:35:58 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Russia thumbing their noses at threats of military action does not surprise me or bother me. Our reputation around the world shouldn't be of aggressive dictators. Republicans always used to say they don't want United States being the world police, and this signifies a shift in that perception. I perceive economic consequences being very viable if russia does try something, and thus far they haven't tried something. The solution to this problem is not going to play out in the news media as much as the news wants it to, it's going to play out in closed-door meetings. We won't really know what will happen until after it happens.
If you think about it, it's pretty dumb for modern developed countries to settle scores by murdering each other's soldiers which have no direct connection to the leadership. Certain parts of the media seem to think that because we can't just put a gun at putins head and tell him to back off, that means we're weak or we don't have power or we don't have status, but this isn't really the case. This is a combination of the Dunning Kruger effect, as well as the effects of television, and politicians know that they can play off this to get votes. 3/3/2014 12:03:18 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Correction: Russia has tried something, but no shooting yet. Either they actually want to seize the land of Crimea, or they are using it as a bargaining chip for something else?
It would be very bad if it turns out that the US and NATO are unable to control Russia. Putin does seem a little off his rocker, and who knows where that mentality could lead.
[Edited on March 3, 2014 at 12:42 AM. Reason : ] 3/3/2014 12:41:47 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Now Smath, don't forget that Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. He's gonna fix it. He's smart." |
Quote : | "Who's criticizing? On the contrary, I believe that his high IQ, top notch cabinet led by John Kerry, and his skills he learned as a community organizer will be more than a match for anything Putin can throw at him." |
back-to-back posts in which you insinuate he isn't smart. unprompted, too.
care to get into why you feel this way/felt the need to bring it up?3/3/2014 12:57:18 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Itt white guys get together and talk about how to fix black people. Fucking racist idiots. As if there aren't just as many white "baby mommas". I know one white girl that had a baby at 15, a good year before the fastest black girl in my high school class. 3/3/2014 7:12:21 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^^holy crap, if that ain't partisan hackery I don't know what is. 3/3/2014 9:31:35 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^^i usually ignore your comments on "serious" subjects, but you do realize what "statistics" are, right? Just because you happen to know a single-mom who's white doesn't mean there are just as many single white moms as single black moms. There is much higher percentage of single black moms than single white moms. It's a fact. 3/3/2014 1:44:29 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
And you are racist. 3/3/2014 7:10:09 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
I want thegoodlife3 to say "I think Obama is a great speaker." 3/3/2014 7:32:39 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Russia thumbing their noses at threats of military action does not surprise me or bother me. Our reputation around the world shouldn't be of aggressive dictators. Republicans always used to say they don't want United States being the world police, and this signifies a shift in that perception. I perceive economic consequences being very viable if russia does try something, and thus far they haven't tried something. The solution to this problem is not going to play out in the news media as much as the news wants it to, it's going to play out in closed-door meetings. We won't really know what will happen until after it happens.
If you think about it, it's pretty dumb for modern developed countries to settle scores by murdering each other's soldiers which have no direct connection to the leadership. Certain parts of the media seem to think that because we can't just put a gun at putins head and tell him to back off, that means we're weak or we don't have power or we don't have status, but this isn't really the case. This is a combination of the Dunning Kruger effect, as well as the effects of television, and politicians know that they can play off this to get votes." |
Again, while I agree with this, it's really disconcerting for the President of the US to say "hey, let's chat this out," which is what you say we will ultimately do, and the other guy to say, essentially, "fuck off" and ignore him. I don't want us being the world police, I don't want us to be aggressive dictators... But it would be nice if other countries didn't just dismiss our concerns outright.3/3/2014 10:48:21 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_missile_crisis
I believe there was some serious "hey, let's chat this out" going on
[Edited on March 3, 2014 at 10:56 PM. Reason : fixed] 3/3/2014 10:55:46 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But it would be nice if other countries didn't just dismiss our concerns outright." |
It's just Russia at this point, but you seem suggesting we should be using our military more in general, just to maintain fear of the US?3/3/2014 11:06:15 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
Not at all. Just pointing out why someone might be concerned that Russia didn't even remotely give a fuck what Obama had to say. 3/3/2014 11:17:25 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Nuclear powers don't really have to give a fuck what anyone else has to say. That's why Iran wants them so bad, that's why N. Korea has been going on and on about how they have that capability now, that's why we're likely never going to see another large scale war in Europe. It's probably the only reason India and Pakistan haven't had a full scale war yet.
We're not going to do shit to Russia and they know it. If we were a large scale trading partner with them economic sanctions might do something, but we aren't so that particular tool isn't of any real use. The most we can do is bluster and threaten, we can't actually do anything.
Ukraine is fucked unless other European nations (namely Germany) or China get involved via economic sanctions. 3/3/2014 11:22:52 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ see ^ 3/3/2014 11:51:17 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
John Kerry is incompetent. I've never liked him and he doesn't deserve his job. 3/4/2014 11:40:34 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Which in my book, is just as important as the job of the president.
And my comments earlier were geared toward the fact that he was awarded the Nobel Peace prize way too early. Based on what? His supposed intelligence and all of the great things he was going to do. No partisan hackery there. I just don't think the guy is doing a good job.
But back on point, I think his cabinet is in shambles. I shudder every time I hear Hagel speak - he's as bad as George Jr when it comes to public speaking. And Kerry couldn't maneuver his way out of a paper bag. You can guess how I feel about the Attorney General. Lew is somewhat untested at this point, and Sebellius...lol. 3/5/2014 7:34:50 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
why do you guys think Kerry is bad at his job? 3/5/2014 8:50:59 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
His public statements are too noncommittal. He doesn't speak as if he views himself as a leader or authority, or that he views the us as the de facto leader of NATO. He flubbed the Syria thing big time, and on this issue, I get the feeling like he hasn't been paying attention in any of the meetings he's been in, or he hasn't gone to any meetings. 3/5/2014 9:59:49 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
You're upset Kerry speaks like a diplomat? 3/5/2014 11:08:59 AM |