aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
If you watched any bit of the trial coverage from anywhere outside of the Jury box and think he is guilty, then I don't know what to say, because we must live in two completely separate realities. 1/25/2014 4:29:42 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Neither of us know for sure. That's the point.
As far as the consensus I quoted earlier about probably guilty, but not enough evidence to convict goes...maybe that was for Jason Young 1/25/2014 5:35:45 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I think that probably was about Jason Young.
But I mean, yeah, none of us know, but based on the evidence presented, it seems incredibly unlikely that Brad did it, unless he suddenly learned how to completely clean a house in a manner that left no trace of bodily fluids, fibers, or cleaners; or he rented a car or van, lured Nancy into it, killed her in it, and returned it, leaving no trace whatsoever back to himself. Oh, and he got the vehicle back to wherever he rented it during the night and got back home in time to report her missing... but forgot to delete his Google Map search where he magically zoomed exactly in on the spot where he wanted to dump the body in a 45 second span 1/25/2014 7:28:46 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not going to say he is innocent, I just don't know. Evidence wasn't there though.
Something curious though, the dude Nancy was banging was inconsistent on the stand when compared to his deposition... His deposition he said he called Nancy for coffee, on the stand he said she called him because she needed to talk she was not feeling safe. That guy really bothered me, he was off putting.
Also, boz is running for DA? Jesus Christ. Count me in for the fuck boz movement. 1/25/2014 9:25:45 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
post on facebook that you don't want Boz for DA
and yeah, that dude was sketchy as shit, and he definitely had motive. he's the kind of person an actual unbiased investigation would have looked at to see if he had an alibi. 1/25/2014 9:32:57 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
hell yeah an unbiased police officer should have investigated him further... he lied under questioning when he wasn't a suspect, and the police knew it. That's normally a hint that he's hiding something 1/26/2014 2:20:41 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
My opinion from the start was that he did it, however as the evidence was presented it became totally apparent to me that:
1. If he did it, he certainly could have had the motivation because of her misrepresentation of their relationship whilst living outside of their means, but not the appropriate amount of time to commit the act based on the timeline of event presented 2. There were several other much more viable suspects that the Cary PD completely ignored 3. The guy got railroaded and was at no point afforded due process 4. The CPD and Wake DA's office were hiding behind the "national security" proclamation to railroad him when the "smells of planted" evidence they presented vis a vis the google seach started to fall apart on closer inspection - their technical presentation and assertions did not match the people they put on the stand, while the defense got totally blocked in their ability to defend against that line by sheer technical ineptitude on the part of the judge.
All of that adds up to the guy very obviously not getting a fair trial. In my mind, the obvious suspects are the guys she was screwing around with her husband on. It came out that she took several lovers, and it was in doubt that one of the kids was even Brad's. 1/26/2014 6:07:39 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
And the court wouldn't allow the paternity issue to be even discussed... Then Boz had the nerve to say in his closing arguments not to "blame the victim of domestic abuse". Fucking scumbag 1/26/2014 6:35:19 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
ahaha, I went to Boz's facebook election page and posted something about this trial. it got deleted with a quickness. 1/26/2014 6:57:04 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
apparently a bunch of my facebook friends are friends with him or his gf (i know neither of them), so I keep getting invited to his facebook page. I've replied to the invitations with why I don't want him to be a DA, but everyone else needs to share on their facebook too. 1/26/2014 7:58:26 PM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
and it begins......
http://www.wral.com/sources-brad-cooper-weighing-plea-deal-in-wife-s-2008-murder/13962008/ 9/8/2014 4:47:19 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
I love WRAL's photo selection. 9/8/2014 5:06:46 PM |
GrimReap3r All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
I hope he doesnt cop, I understand why he would but I was really looking forward to him getting a new trial 9/8/2014 5:08:42 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Do the kids still think Nancy is camping in the woods? 9/8/2014 5:17:11 PM |
wolfpack0122 All American 3129 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Same here. I've got the same feeling I get when I find out a favorite show of mine is being cancelled 9/8/2014 5:32:04 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
They cant keep TWW off the jury pool. 9/8/2014 6:14:08 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I hope he doesnt cop, I understand why he would but I was really looking forward to him getting a new trial" |
considering the last one was a joke, yeah9/9/2014 9:07:08 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
the only reason i could see him taking a plea is if he doesn't have the money to defend himself again, it's pretty bullshit that our courts are so broken 9/9/2014 9:11:50 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
yeah but 7 years is nothing when the other option is the rest of your natural life in prison...
Neither option is great, but he probably did not think he would be convicted the first time.
There is also the possibility he is guilty too. The state never did prove his guilt in the first trial, but new evidence could arise to be used against him up until the point of his case being disposed of. If he knows he is guilty, and the prosecutors are still looking for evidence, the plea is a no brainer. 9/9/2014 10:08:08 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
if the prosecutors had been looking for evidence, they would have subpoenaed google or they would have subpoenaed the cell phone company... Or maybe they would have, you know, actually interrogated the guy who had a motive and actually lied to them during routine questioning. 9/9/2014 11:42:39 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There is also the reality that he is guilty" |
FTFY9/9/2014 11:45:26 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
despite the fact that he was nowhere near her when she was murdered, yeah 9/9/2014 11:49:20 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
I was unaware he was wearing a GPS tracker on his person at the same time his wife was strangled.
[Edited on September 9, 2014 at 11:55 PM. Reason : Perhaps you should contact his defense team with this evidence burro.] 9/9/2014 11:54:40 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
well, he was on camera around the time she was abducted from her run, so there's that. I guess he capable of teleporting at will, right? 9/10/2014 12:00:09 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
The key word there is around 9/10/2014 12:12:16 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
So just to be clear here, you're in the "100% no way he murdered his wife" camp here, right? 9/10/2014 12:14:12 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
I'm in the "unless he figured out how to break the laws of physics and be in multiple places at the same time, then there's no way he had the opportunity to murder his wife" camp, yes. you are probably in the "I feel like being a giant troll" camp, as you are known to do 9/10/2014 12:26:51 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
So that's a yes.
[Edited on September 10, 2014 at 12:39 AM. Reason : You probably think Jason Young is innocent too.] 9/10/2014 12:36:45 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
It's pretty easy to be in the "we don't know what happened but there damn sure wasn't enough evidence to convict him and his trial was royally fucked" camp. And if you are in that camp, it's easy to see why he would go for the plea, do his time and get out rather than chance getting hosed again. 9/10/2014 7:22:58 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
^ 9/10/2014 8:26:58 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
my biggest problem with the case was not even that there wasn't sufficient evidence to remove reasonable doubt, but that the prosecutors never even offered a consistent story of what might have happened. they had 3 or 4 different versions of what might have happened that they kept changing, so without even offering what they thought could have happened I had trouble even getting to the point of weighing their evidence. the whole trial seemed backwards, where Cooper had to prove his innocence instead of the state proving he was guilty (as most cases are because our courts are broken). 9/10/2014 8:38:25 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's pretty easy to be in the "we don't know what happened but there damn sure wasn't enough evidence to convict him and his trial was royally fucked" camp. And if you are in that camp, it's easy to see why he would go for the plea, do his time and get out rather than chance getting hosed again." |
9/10/2014 8:40:40 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
So who else is in the "100% no way he was the murderer unless he teleported" camp?
[Edited on September 10, 2014 at 3:45 PM. Reason : I have a feeling that's a camp of 1] 9/10/2014 3:45:06 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "despite the fact that he was nowhere near her when she was murdered, yeah" |
Is this actually a "fact? Because if it was a "fact", it seems that it would prove his innocence.9/10/2014 3:48:50 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
It essentially is. IIRC, he had a pretty strong alibi for the morning, which explains why the prosecution went to such pains to suggest that she was murdered at night. Essentially, he had no chance to do everything that was done in the morning, so they had to "prove" that he did it at night. otherwise, why focus so hard on the phone call at HT? And this doesn't even begin to discuss the autopsy results which also strongly suggested that she died in the morning.
[Edited on September 10, 2014 at 10:00 PM. Reason : ] 9/10/2014 9:59:23 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
They never proved any of their theory about the router. 9/11/2014 10:46:43 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
What do you expect? Brad threw the router into Lochmere Lake. 9/12/2014 12:11:36 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It essentially is" |
Key word: essentially.9/12/2014 8:53:18 AM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
"And I knew it was essentially a fact. But in a much more real sense, it's still completely open to interpretation." - Michael Scott 9/12/2014 8:55:35 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
^^ key word: trolling 9/12/2014 9:05:12 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Perhaps Brad Cooper should retain your services Burro. You seem to have it all figured out.
[Edited on September 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM. Reason : V thx. US Rep] 9/12/2014 9:15:32 AM |
Gzusfrk All American 2988 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Perhaps Brad Miller should retain your services Burro. You seem to have it all figured out." |
Who is Brad Miller? Aside from the baseball player, of course.9/12/2014 9:17:21 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
9/12/2014 9:20:54 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Congressman from NC-13? 9/12/2014 9:28:30 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah that's what I had on the brain. Nice guy.
^^ this guy on the other hand...] 9/12/2014 9:40:02 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What do you expect? Brad threw the router into Lochmere Lake." |
Evidence has been recovered from much larger lakes than the Lochmere lake.
The prosecution could not even prove that he left his house on the night of the murder. There are lots of ways to do that. (eyewitnesses, cell records, security cameras at hundreds of businesses, toll booths, etc)9/12/2014 6:34:37 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
All of that would have required actual investigation by CPD, which, given that they couldn't find porcelain ducks that were in their position, is clearly too much to ask of them 9/14/2014 7:16:23 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, porcelain ducks make terrible investigators when they are in that position 9/14/2014 7:40:07 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53068 Posts user info edit post |
>.< 9/15/2014 7:00:57 PM |
mellocj All American 1872 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wral.com/cooper-pleads-guilty-to-second-degree-murder-in-wife-s-2008-death/14003991/ 9/22/2014 10:32:12 AM |