bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
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10/28/2014 1:29:03 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
That rocket that blew up? Obama -3 10/29/2014 7:12:41 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
At least he'll have a good excuse for the failure of the last 2 years of his presidency. 11/5/2014 11:03:45 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
they are about to pass a ton of shitty laws and put him in the position to have to veto stuff over and over.
Shits about to get ugly. I could easily see him passing republican laws just so everything doesn't get blamed on him. 11/5/2014 6:11:48 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
It really is fucking weird that people voted for a bunch of populist ballot measures while electing Republicans to make and implement laws. Are people just that uninformed or was it a conscious decision to just stick it to Obama? Maybe people just want to smoke pot, have unprotected sex, and watch the world burn.
[Edited on November 5, 2014 at 6:26 PM. Reason : :] 11/5/2014 6:25:42 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
I think it is clear that people are unhappy with their current lot in life. They don't blame Obama, they don't blame Republicans or Democrats, they're blaming Washington. And to most folks, this is the only way to make a change.
Right or wrong, I think that is what happened. The Republicans didn't win, it's just the Democrats lost. 11/5/2014 8:23:32 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
^ That may explain the Senate races, but it doesn't explain the victories that Scott Walker and Sam Brownback achieved. 11/5/2014 8:55:33 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
the answer of course is the majority of voters are racist, sexist, and stupid. 11/5/2014 8:56:34 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
^thats an exceptionally trolly post. GG sir 11/5/2014 9:55:23 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
ok? they arent then. 11/5/2014 10:11:01 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
people just didn't vote. the people who voted for obama stayed home. in the states that had marijuana on the table, they showed up in droves just to vote for weed. basically obama and weed are the only thing that get the democrat voters to show up. hillary will as well.
i know so many democrats who didn't even know there was a big election this year. they think elections are only every 4 years. 11/5/2014 10:37:35 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
So if the people that came out in droves to vote for Obama in '08 and '12 didn't come out in '10 and '14, what does that say about his voter base?
I think that speaks volumes.
Maybe the Democratic machine just wasn't bussing in enough people to the polls this time around. Or in '10. 11/6/2014 8:13:46 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
you may wanna check out the statistical analysis of voting patterns of the party in power during midterm elections, champ
this is how it almost always goes
busses or no busses 11/6/2014 8:49:22 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
There was still bussing... http://m.technicianonline.com/mobile/news/article_09dd23ae-5d90-11e4-ae8d-001a4bcf6878.html 11/6/2014 9:48:17 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
people who think bussing is a bad thing are kind of telling on themselves
"he isn't legitimate because they were bussing them in" 11/6/2014 10:03:03 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
yet when churches bus old people to the polls to vote down alcohol referendums (for example) its a travesty to people like you 11/6/2014 10:14:49 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
example? 11/6/2014 10:15:42 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
of what 11/6/2014 10:17:48 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
you people not liking busses 11/6/2014 10:24:10 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Based on reading some articles from the Washington Post the past two days, I think Harry Reid would deck the president if he wouldn't get arrested right after. Reid has his chief aide opening up on everything but it's not the "anonymous source" stuff, he's up front and open publicly on the record as the source.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/midterm-disaster-rips-apart-awkward-ties-between-obama-and-senate-democrats/2014/11/05/5bdd257a-650e-11e4-9fdc-d43b053ecb4d_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop
If Obama gives a shit and wants a conduit in the Senate that supports him, he has to back someone that defeats Reid for Senate Minority Leader.
I bet Hillary Clinton right now is real glad she's on the sidelines and is not in the middle of this crap.
[Edited on November 6, 2014 at 10:32 AM. Reason : .] 11/6/2014 10:28:48 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
yeah liberals dont like it when churches bus old people to vote down liberal things 11/6/2014 10:30:21 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
are annoyed when churches bring people to vote for unconstitutional constitutional amendments, sure. i haven't seen anyone say that it's wrong or shouldn't be allowed though. the other side claims it's almost criminal fraud. 11/6/2014 10:36:16 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So if the people that came out in droves to vote for Obama in '08 and '12 didn't come out in '10 and '14, what does that say about his voter base?" |
Part of it - at least in southern states - is that 2008 was when black voter turnout jumped much higher. Black voter turnout has always been lower than white voter turnout. So Southern states where blacks are larger proportions of the population than anywhere else in the country saw their average voter change for one election. The same thing was not true in 2010 or this election - there was no Obama at the top of the ballot to provide coattails.11/6/2014 10:37:22 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "unconstitutional constitutional amendments" |
oxymoron11/6/2014 10:37:47 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
you would think so, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_Amendment_1 11/6/2014 10:40:26 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
its the same mindset that makes liberals call every black republican an uncle tom
youd think theyd be happy to have minorities in any office
just like youd think theyd be happy with old people voting
nope 11/6/2014 10:55:19 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
liberals don't like minorities in office? 11/6/2014 11:00:32 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
not when theyre republican 11/6/2014 11:19:54 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I like minorities in office,even when they're republican, because they usually end up getting mocked/harassed by other republicans reinforcing the expectation that republicans are out of touch with evolving demographics.
look at michael steele, and bobby jindal (he did a lot of this to himself though with his plodding speaking style-- but the republicans didn't have his back at all).
[Edited on November 7, 2014 at 12:56 PM. Reason : ] 11/7/2014 12:55:23 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
good lord youre embarrassingly naive 11/7/2014 2:41:17 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
liberals, liberals, liberals 11/7/2014 2:43:57 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
so as long as the three of you agree black republicans arent racially denigrated by liberals that makes it true
please just be honest and say you only celebrate minority politicians when theyre democrat
please 11/7/2014 2:57:35 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
i don't celebrate any politicians, black or not
[Edited on November 7, 2014 at 3:12 PM. Reason : ] 11/7/2014 3:11:41 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I celebrate Obama for being half-black and president, that's a notable historical landmark. 11/7/2014 5:35:10 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Pay no attention to the additional troops being dispatched to Iraq to help combat ISIS. Those aren't boots on the ground, they're military advisers serving non-combat roles. 11/7/2014 8:53:38 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
yeah its just 300 i mean 1500 i mean whoops its 3000. 11/8/2014 12:31:18 AM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/mitt-romney-barack-obama-iran-letter-112702.html?cmpid=sf#ixzz3IRqoBpfr 11/8/2014 2:49:05 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
"obama beat him who cares about his opinion"
11/8/2014 7:35:16 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Our two options are more boots on the ground, or engaging regional powers even Iran. Romney probably would have committed more troops, maybe done another surge, but for Obama, who's goal is a stable long term situation, some level of relationship with Iran (along with the other surrounding countries) is a necessary strategy, and likely a better strategy than just brute force. There was a panel on cspan the other week and the 3 panelists were all disappointed in the Obama admin for ignoring the warning signs for isis, but all 3 also agreed Iran had a Major stake I the outcome, but dismissed the idea of the USA even working with Iran. Looks like they might be wrong.
The Iranian people are some of the most progressive in the middle east, they are a freer society than Saudi Arabia. We should be engaging them, in the ideal world. In the real world, despite the practicality of being on good terms with Iran, we are also allies with Israel who hates Iran.
But Obama is not wrong for talking to Iran. 11/9/2014 1:02:13 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Getting Iran involved is just going to piss the extreme Sunnis off even more. The best option is for us to stop trying to "fix" Iraq, cut our losses and leave it alone. Otherwise, endless war will continue and all sides will be able to blame us for their differences.
How can they ever resolve their issues if we are always involved? 11/9/2014 1:50:07 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Iran will continue to step into Iraq, we need to be doing everything we can to improve our dialogue with Iran even if that means tabling nuclear talks and making some other concessions. Arab League nations will also do more to fight ISIS and there will likely be some ad hoc cross-sect alliances between Iran and more Arab League nations. It's not an ideal situation, but we have to face the reality that we have lost significant influence in the region because of our foreign policy there over the last decade+ " |
-dtownral 9/10/2014 3:00:17 PM
The letter to Iran was good, the current situation dictates that we have to work with Iran. It's the bed we made and now we have to lie in it.11/9/2014 12:52:49 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
people on my FB are saying the IRS admitted today in court they never looked for lois lerners emails?
lol if true; lol if FB is dumb. 11/10/2014 10:41:18 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
You'll find them with UNC player transcripts. And the Patriots spygate videos. 11/10/2014 11:50:45 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
so what you're saying is that PackPride needs to get on this? 11/10/2014 12:05:42 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
What's his deal... Soon as he loses congress, he nominates a new fiery attorney General, comes out big for net neutrality, now he's making bold moves on immigration, next thing you know he'll be Obama the presidential candidate again. 11/14/2014 12:38:07 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Lots of Presidents who are hated during their presidency becoming revered again for some reason 11/14/2014 12:44:11 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
He is doing everything he can in this lame duck session to make the next two years as difficult as possible for him. He knows exactly what he needs to do to piss this congress off, and he's doing it. He said he would wait a while for congress to do something on immigration, and now he's not. He's not even giving them a chance. 11/14/2014 7:45:15 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Probably gave up trying to work with his party since they aren't even competent enough to hold seats 11/14/2014 8:06:17 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Harry Reid has run out of excuses for doing nothing. 11/14/2014 11:23:27 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
A surprise defender of Obama http://tasteofcountry.com/merle-haggard-president-obama/
Quote : | "“It was also nice to meet Obama and find him very different from the media makeout. It’s really almost criminal what they [the media] do with our President,” Haggard tells Rolling Stone. “There seems to be no shame or anything. They call him all kinds of names all day long, saying he’s doing certain things that he’s not. It’s just a big old political game that I don’t want to be part of. There are people spending their lives putting him down.”
“I’m sure some of it’s true and some of it’s not,” he continues. “I was very surprised to find the man very humble and he had a nice handshake. His wife was very cordial to the guests and especially me. They made a special effort to make me feel welcome. It was not at all the way the media described him to be.”
“He’s not conceited,” he adds. “He’s very humble about being the President of the United States, especially in comparison to some presidents we’ve had who come across like they don’t need anybody’s help. I think he knows he’s in over his head. Anybody with any sense who takes that job and thinks they can handle it must be an idiot.”" |
11/14/2014 12:20:05 PM |