My Verizon signal in Apex is so bad that I constantly have ZERO bars, and even have to walk to one side of the house and hold my phone up to the window if I want my text message to go through - otherwise it'll say it fails

2/2/2012 1:24:20 PM

Quote :

"verizon's network is just as shitty as the rest of them...i'm sticking with sprint"

i'm genuinely interested in your evidence that verizon doesn't have the best phone coverage nationwide

i'd even say their 3G/4G is best (coverage/speed) of the big three, but i haven't bothered to look it up

[Edited on February 2, 2012 at 1:37 PM. Reason : .]

2/2/2012 1:37:12 PM

Aside from the random LTE outages and crap service at my parents' house in the boonies, I'd consider it far from being as shitty as the others.

2/2/2012 1:57:05 PM

switched from sprint blackberry to verizon android but

i never got reception in my apartment through sprint, but i always have a signal through verizon

2/2/2012 2:10:18 PM

I'm getting close to my upgrade date with AT&T. Going to have to make two big decisions:

- Switching to Verizon, and

- Switching to an iphone.

Switching to Verizon all depends on what kind of deal I can get. I pay about $105 a month for my data plan with AT&T. My gf somehow pays $80 for the same plan at Verizon. If I can swing that, I might jump over. Or if we can get a joint plan that also lowers the bill. We'll see...but I've actually had a good relationship and good coverage with AT&T/Cingular during my 12+ year run with them.

The Iphone/Android is going to be a little tougher. I love my Samsung Captivate...but it definitely has the "computer problems" (freezes, lags...does all the things computers do when they're overworked or too full). I know a lot of that has to do with the fact I have very little storage on my phone. I do love the size and quality of the screen. Battery life is starting to struggle a little bit, but its still pretty solid.

By update time, I will have a Macbook Pro for the office, regular macbook for home, and possibly even an ipad. Shouldn't I just get an iphone to sync everything up easily. I'm not a big techie that needs an Android platform to do all of my own shit.

What say you?

2/2/2012 2:14:07 PM

If you get an iPhone, you'll want to be on AT&T for HSPA+ (almost 4G) speeds, not a must, just realize if you go iPhone on Verizon you'll be limited to 3G speed.

For Android, you should look at new phones that have Android 4.0 (ICS) the freezing, lagging, whatever is non-existent and a lot faster than older Android phones.

But considering you'll be on an all Apple platform, you may want to consider the iPhone for cross-device syncing and cloud storage.

[Edited on February 2, 2012 at 3:13 PM. Reason : .]

2/2/2012 3:08:04 PM

Quote :

"Android is notorious for fragmenting their OS...in other words, cutting off software updates for many of their phones well before most people's 2 year contracts are up, rendering the phone outdated and somewhat obsolete. I've also heard that many Android phones don't get the latest OS software update right away, in some cases not even after several months after the new OS update is released. ."

It's completely up to the phone manufacturers which phones get which OS, not Android (whoever that is)...guessing you meant Google.

Quote :

"well before most people's 2 year contracts are up, rendering the phone outdated and somewhat obsolete"

Phones can be considered outdated just months after purchase...nothing new there. Also if you're considering getting a 2 year contract and getting a $10 phone as part of that commitment (or even a $99 iPhone at that), I don't think you should be worried about outdated phones.

Quote :

"Apple, on the other hand, pushes their OS updates to all [compatible] iPhones as soon as they are released so no phone has an outdated OS"

http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/12/apples-ios-5-update-now-available-for-iphone-ipad-and-ipod-touch/

Quote :

"The iOS 5 update is compatible with the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 (GSM and CDMA), iPod touch 3rd/4th generation, and the iPad/iPad 2"

Quote :

"Beware, verizon's network is just as shitty as the rest of them...i'm sticking with sprin"

Ha. Maybe where you live (Where do you live that you would say this?). That's not the case here in Raleigh. I was with Sprint for a few years and I would be unable to get data despite having 3-5 bars of 3G data, routinely. Calls would disconnect regurally too. Since moving to Verizon everythings been perfect. I can do more with 1 bar of data on Verizon than I could with 3+ on Sprint.

After having AT&T, Sprint and Verizon over the last 10 years I'd have to say that in Raleigh:

Verizon>>AT&T>>>>>>>Sprint

2/2/2012 3:23:21 PM

Eh, not defending Sprint here, but I have been with them for 12 years and yes service can be spotty in some areas, but I have always been able to make a call when I needed to ... except for some places indoors, yeah, a bit inconvenient, but I've payed much less over the years, so that's worth it.

2/2/2012 3:34:12 PM

Quote :

"but I have always been able to make a call when I needed to"

for me it's more about data performance than voice performance, but even the voice was substandard imo (at least around raleigh).

2/2/2012 4:13:26 PM

its not even gonna matter in a couple years when theres 100% wifi coverage anywhere not out in the wild

2/2/2012 4:17:54 PM

Quote :

"in a couple years when theres 100% wifi coverage"

do tell...

2/2/2012 4:32:50 PM

i assume you have wifi at your house and your work so you dont even need to use your phone's data plan while you're at home or work, which are the two places most people spend the majority of their time

more and more businesses and venues have wifi and will continue to, and some larger cities are trying to have complete wifi coverage in certain high traffic areas

so in a couple years, or 10 or 20, most places not out in the wilderness will have wifi coverage

2/2/2012 4:51:55 PM

this is why i say verizon is just as shitty as the rest of them

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/12/19/this-is-why-your-verizon-galaxy-nexus-or-other-4g-lte-vzw-phone-is-losing-data-signal/

2/2/2012 4:55:37 PM

Quote :

"this is why i say verizon is just as shitty as the rest of them"

i think you're living in the trees a bit. sure there has been a day or two where LTE (a very small part of their network as a whole) was having issues, but if you look at their network overall, it's clearly superior.

there's a reason verizon is the clear winner every year in the customer satisfaction surveys...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/06/consumer-reports-att-verizon_n_1132220.html

2/2/2012 5:45:06 PM

looks like Google Wallet is officially available in the market for the GNex. Only mentions the gsm version in the post but they tweeted it was available for the lte version too

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/02/gsm-galaxy-nexus-receives-google-wallet-access-on-att-still-nothing-for-the-lte-variant-on-verizon/

2/2/2012 6:53:16 PM

customer satisfaction doesn't mean shit to me.
all the iPhone tards are satisfied too.

i'm a live in the clouds kinda guy

2/2/2012 7:15:34 PM

finally got around to putting CM9 on my NS4G.

this is awesome.

2/2/2012 7:58:37 PM

I'm leaning more towards getting the iPhone 4S now, because iOS seems to be more stable and smooth. Thx for the feedback yall.

2/3/2012 12:09:18 PM

good luck with that

i got my free $10 dollars today, thx google <3

2/3/2012 1:52:18 PM

Quote :

"all the iPhone tards are satisfied too."

I'm not saying there aren't a lot of dumb people with iPhones...

but...

fuck you asshole.

2/3/2012 3:15:00 PM

plus we were discussing networks and not phones...but w/e

2/3/2012 3:19:38 PM

haters be hatin'

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/03/google-no-longer-considers-verizons-lte-galaxy-nexus-to-be-a-developer-phone/

[Edited on February 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM. Reason : fuck my life]

2/3/2012 3:53:03 PM

custom rom time i suppose

2/3/2012 4:30:51 PM

^^all the people in the comments are saying that is not a big deal, but if I stop getting timely updates on my gnex then I'm gonna be pissed. That was pretty much the main reason I got one. In 2 years I'll have an iPhone.

2/4/2012 7:52:57 AM

but we don't know that, thus why it's not a big deal until confirmed. geez, talk about overreacting.

2/4/2012 6:27:04 PM

yeah, it looks like Google will still supply updates but the source support has been limited due to extra requirements for cdma devices.

and damn, 419GB in 1 week.

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2012/02/06/in-russia-downloading-419gb-over-3g-in-one-week-wins-you-a-5000-holiday/

2/6/2012 2:15:42 PM

^In Soviet Russia, internet downloads YOU!

2/6/2012 2:44:57 PM

wonder what methods the participants used...torrents?

2/6/2012 4:24:13 PM

usenet/ftp probably.

2/6/2012 5:09:15 PM

maybe just streaming video the entire time?

wonder how much bandwidth you'd use if you streamed netflix for a month straight

2/6/2012 5:14:47 PM

probably something that is controllable. for example, downloading a series of files from my server in a local colo.

2/6/2012 5:20:52 PM

Torrents is by far the easiest way to max out your bandwidth and keep it maxxed out. Just queue 100 or so 1080p videos, allow unlimited download, limit your upload, allow 10+ torrents to download at a time.... it's quite easy. I could probably stream something in the range of 7-10TB of data a month from home.

I used to get about 1.7Mbps download on my old 3G phone, if I could stream torrents via USB Tether, I probably could have done about 125GB +/- a week, depending on my stationary location and fluctuating traffic throughout the day (how busy the tower is)

So he had a sustained connection of at least 7Mbps over 3G

[Edited on February 6, 2012 at 5:48 PM. Reason : .]

2/6/2012 5:45:35 PM

hah, my new boot animation

2/7/2012 8:27:11 AM

^ ahahahha thats awesome!

I remember the first computer I got with the energy star logo....I was like man this is baller!

2/7/2012 8:32:55 AM

yeah, i'm all about some retro crap...i have the SNES zelda (a link to the past) sound pack

if anyone else wants the boot animation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648555

2/7/2012 8:37:54 AM

Chrome for Android. Only available for devices running ICS though
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.android.chrome

2/7/2012 12:56:10 PM

i wonder if it's better than dolphin

also, come on, CM9!

2/7/2012 1:10:11 PM

Loving chrome holy shit.

Only.complaint is links seem "less sensitive" than on the stock browser. You need to be more precise when clicking them.

Awesome feature: bye bye chrome to phone. Settings>devices allows you to pull up open tabs on chrome devices. For me I have my laptop, my phone, and my tablet. Haven't been able to test it yet, but I should be able to pull phone tabs on my desktop or tablet tabs on my phone, or any other combination. Fucking awesome.

2/7/2012 2:44:31 PM

Lacks flash support, that's a minus. But adobe stopped developing mobile flash, sooo... understandable I guess.

Switching between tabs is neat, as is the swipe to close a tab

2/7/2012 4:02:18 PM

I like how it blows up the text when you click on a page number.

2/7/2012 5:39:12 PM

Yeah, that was pretty cool.

(For those without it... if you fat finger select multiple links, it provides a mini blown up pop up so you can select the link you want)

Also, looks like pulling tabs from devices onto the desktop isn't an option... I can pull across devices fine, and using a device pull from my desktop.... hmmm maybe I'm missing the option on chrome desktop

2/7/2012 6:32:45 PM

My trusty Droid X is about to be retired... My wife knocked it out of my hand while I was showing an embarrassing vid of her doing tequila shots and now the screen is fux0red.


I had rooted Gingerbread with the main benefit of free wifi tethering. Is there any new phone to avoid bc you cannot root yet or you cannot wifi tether for free? Or are they all fair game?

2/8/2012 11:24:51 AM

Wifi tether is hit or miss on certain phones, not sure about compatibility.

Personally I'd check compatibility for this app, as it's the only one that doesn't require root and can't be tracked by cell provider, even though it's USB:
http://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.tether

This one too (no need for root, certain phones):
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.svtechpartners.wifihotspot
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.svtechpartners.wifihotspotdemo (test it first to see if it works)

[Edited on February 8, 2012 at 1:44 PM. Reason : .]

2/8/2012 1:40:38 PM

Quote :

"I like how it blows up the text when you click on a page number."

2/8/2012 6:57:27 PM

I finally rooted my infuse. I just can't take Froyo anymore.

I need to get this guy on gingerbread at the least.

ROM recommendations?

2/9/2012 3:09:22 PM

Don't see any names I recognize for development on the Infuse. I'd look at anything cm7 based if you are tired of touchwiz. Also looks like there's a MIUI build if you're looking for something different.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/10150762287733084

Quote :

"HTC has been working hard to get its Ice Cream Sandwich upgrades ready, and we’re excited to announce that our first round of ICS upgrades will roll out by the end of March for the HTC Sensation, HTC Sensation 4G and HTC Sensation XE, followed soon there after by the HTC Sensation XL. In addition, we can confirm Ice Cream Sandwich upgrades will be coming later this year to the HTC Rezound, HTC Vivid, HTC Amaze 4G, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO Design 4G, HTC Incredible S, HTC Desire S and HTC Desire HD. Stay tuned for more updates on Ice Cream Sandwich releases in the coming weeks."

2/9/2012 4:03:19 PM

still waiting for ICS on the ns4g

what the shit is taking so long

I'm about to root and put it on there myself

2/9/2012 4:31:37 PM

iphone haters can hate, but i love miui lots

2/9/2012 4:36:32 PM

can you go from Froyo to ICS?

2/9/2012 4:38:17 PM

so is the "tapping the android version number a lot really quickly" an ICS Easter Egg, or has it been around in earlier versions?

2/9/2012 5:06:29 PM