Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Thats why he clings so tightly to his theories. He knows the real truth, and as such is smarter than all of us. If he were to abandon those beliefs he would have to climb down from his tower. 4/18/2006 3:24:53 PM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Regardless, your actions demonstrate that you are here to distract me." |
what exactly are his actions? i visit this thread daily and read what everyone has to say, including u salisburyboy, and all i see is Mr. Joshua asking u questions that he would like ur thoughts on. i do not see how askin u questions is distracting. maybe i'm missin somethin. u tell us to visit ur links and read up and become informed but yet when someone asks u a question u refuse to answer it. isnt askin questions the best way to become informed?4/18/2006 3:27:30 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
i just wanna know what he's upto this week
i've decided to just ignore the whacko stuff and try and be friends 4/18/2006 3:33:38 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why is salis so arrogant??
he knows everything and we know nothing. and we cant possibly be here to discuss things, we can only be here to "distract" him....incredible " |
I don't mean to come across that way at all, and I don't think I have. And I have stated prior in this thread that I don't know everything.
And I am not saying that everyone who disagrees with me is here to distract me. Far from it. I'm only saying that about the people like Woodfoot (who admitted he was trolling me), JonHGuth (who spammed the thread with tons copy-paste jobs to try to distract from the information I'm presenting), and Mr. Joshua (who has an established track record of trying to distract me, and once admitted as much).
Quote : | "and all i see is Mr. Joshua asking u questions that he would like ur thoughts on. i do not see how askin u questions is distracting. maybe i'm missin somethin." |
Because they are designed to take the thread off on tangents unrelated to the topic of the thread, and generally to waste my time.
Quote : | "u tell us to visit ur links and read up and become informed but yet when someone asks u a question u refuse to answer it." |
Not always. I answer legitimate and sincere questions when someone wants to know something.
Quote : | "isnt askin questions the best way to become informed?" |
Mr. Joshua isn't interested in learning anything from me. He's only interested in reinforcing his own beliefs, and his questions (in this case) are designed to divert attention away from the issue and the evidence related to 9/11.4/18/2006 3:34:46 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Because they are designed to take the thread off on tangents unrelated to the topic of the thread, and generally to waste my time." |
They aren't designed to do anything but gather information for myself. I'm genuinely curious.
Quote : | "Mr. Joshua isn't interested in learning anything from me. He's only interested in reinforcing his own beliefs, and his questions (in this case) are designed to divert attention away from the issue and the evidence related to 9/11." |
I'm simply asking questions about things that you have mentioned in this very thread. I apologize if you think that I'm trying to distract you, but I'm honestly not. I wish that we could have a discussion without you becoming so hostile.4/18/2006 3:39:17 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Back to the issue at hand...
MOSSAD WARNS OF 200 TERRORISTS IN THE U.S.: MEANWHILE, 200 ISRAELI SPIES ARE DETAINED. ANOTHER "COINCIDENCE"?
Carl Cameron's 4-part series on Israeli Spying on FOXNews reveals around 200 Israeli spies were detained around 9/11:
Quote : | "CARL CAMERON, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Since September 11, more than 60 Israelis have been arrested or detained, either under the new patriot anti-terrorism law, or for immigration violations. A handful of active Israeli military were among those detained, according to investigators, who say some of the detainees also failed polygraph questions when asked about alleged surveillance activities against and in the United States.
[...]
Numerous classified documents obtained by Fox News indicate that even prior to September 11, as many as 140 other Israelis had been detained or arrested in a secretive and sprawling investigation into suspected espionage by Israelis in the United States.
http://tinyurl.com/k6dm5" |
Mossad warns of up to 200 "terrorists" planning attacks:
Jersusalem Post: "Mossad warned CIA of attacks - report" Jersusalem Post article cached here: http://prisonplanet.com/mossad_warned_cia_of_attacks.html
Quote : | "LONDON (September 17) - Mossad officials traveled to Washington last month to warn the CIA and the FBI that a cell of up to 200 terrorists was planning a major operation, according to a report in the Sunday Telegraph here yesterday." |
Commentary:
Quote : | "Now do you remember the Mossad's "warning" about the 200 "Al-Qaeda terrorists" said to have been preparing major attacks in the US? At the time of this writing, we are one year into the largest investigation in American history, and not one of these 200 "terrorists" has yet to be uncovered. But 200 Israeli spies were uncovered, among them many military members, electronics experts, wiretapping and phone tapping specialists, and explosives experts with the skill to bring down tall buildings. Logic and common sense leads to the conclusion that the "200 Al Qaeda terrorists" were in reality, 200 Zionist terrorists sent to frame the Arabs for terrorist attacks and drag America into a war.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hundreds.html" |
But this is just another one of those "bizarre coincidences" right?4/18/2006 3:56:20 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Can you shed any light on the embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998, the Khobar towers bombing in 1996, or the USS Cole attack in 2000?
If Al Qaeda isn't a real organization, then who carried these out and why? Mossad? 4/18/2006 3:57:27 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Can you shed any light on the embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998, the Khobar towers bombing in 1996, or the USS Cole attack in 2000? " |
I haven't researched those incidents enough to give you an educated opinion. But I suspect we are not being told the truth about those incidents either.4/18/2006 4:00:11 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Why do you suspect that? 4/18/2006 4:04:23 PM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
b/c of Zionists 4/18/2006 4:07:48 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why do you suspect that?" |
Because history shows that it is governments who often perpetrate these kind of "terrorist" attacks for the purpose of advancing their own agenda. And the MSM and governments have lied about so many other major government-sponsored staged "terrorist" events (eg, 9/11, 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, 7/7 London bombings, Madrid bombings, etc.).4/18/2006 4:07:57 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
No offense, but that sounds like jumping to a conclusion without examining the evidence at all. How would those attacks have advanced the governments agenda? The embassy bombings cost the US ~$2 billion and disrupted the plans of the Unocal consortium to build a natural gas pipeline across Afghanistan. 4/18/2006 4:17:51 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No offense, but that sounds like jumping to a conclusion without examining the evidence at all. " |
Uhhhh...that's the definition of a suspicion. As I said above, it is my suspicion, and I admitted I had not researched it enough to express and educated opinion.
Quote : | "sus·pi·cion n.
The act of suspecting something, especially something wrong, on little evidence or without proof." |
4/18/2006 4:49:56 PM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
salisburyboy suspects a huge conspiracy i know he is an idiot
but im just a lousy edomite what do i know 4/18/2006 5:03:28 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
We all know that you don't trust the government or the mainstream media, but what, other than that, makes you suspect that we are being lied to? Its seems rather unfounded and paranoid. 4/18/2006 5:52:57 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "unfounded and paranoid" |
DING DING DING DING DING4/18/2006 7:26:41 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
http://web.archive.org/web/20011121083754/http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_418949.html
Quote : | "Russian MP claims US carried out September 11 attacks
Tuesday 9th October 2001 Ananova
An outspoken Russian MP says he believes America is responsible for the September 11 attacks.
Vladimir Zhirinovsky claims the US carried out the attacks to maintain world domination.
He made the remarks at a Nato parliamentary conference in Ottawa, Canada.
Zhirinovsky, a former Russian presidential candidate, is known for his inflammatory statements.
"The United States is responsible. All the terror has been organised by the United States. Osama (bin Laden) had nothing to do with it," he said.
Speaking through an interpreter, he added: "The United States, in order to consolidate its efforts and to produce a coalition, needed to have some sort of provocation in order to invoke Article 5 of the Nato treaty. It is a new political technology to keep domination in the world."
Zhirinovsky says the war against terrorism is phoney and has been triggered by an unstable US dollar, oil prices and a military industrial complex that "needs an enemy".
"In the 20th century, there were some symbols to fight against, like fascism and communism," he said. "They don't exist any more. Now they have found such a symbol, which is terrorism, which has no borders, which has no time limits."
He believes the Americans could capture bin Laden if they wanted to, reports the Winnipeg Sun.
"They got what they wanted. They consolidated the international community, the Nato alliance. They've got political and financial dividends from the situation," he said." |
4/19/2006 8:30:10 AM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
And he is some kind of authority because... 4/19/2006 8:47:25 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Other Russian "authorities" say virtually the same thing:
Russian Intelligence Chief Says Al-Qaeda a Myth http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/03/21/shebarsh.shtml
Quote : | "U.S. Using Anti-Terror War to Gain World Oil Reserves — Soviet Intelligence Chief
MosNews March 21 2005
On the pretext of fighting international terrorism the United States is trying to establish control over the world’s richest oil reserves, Leonid Shebarshin, ex-chief of the Soviet Foreign Intelligence Service, who heads the Russian National Economic Security Service consulting company, said in an interview for the Vremya Novostei newspaper.
Using the anti-terrorist cause as a cover the United States has occupied Afghanistan, Iraq and will soon move to impose their “democratic order” on the Greater Middle East, Shebarshin said. “The U.S. has usurped the right to attack any part of the globe on the pretext of fighting the terrorist threat,” Shebarshin said.
Referring to his meeting with an unnamed al-Qaeda expert at the Rand Corporation, a nonprofit research organization in the U.S., Shebarshin said: “We have agreed that [al-Qaeda] is not a group but a notion.”
“The fight against that all-mighty ubiquitous myth deliberately linked to Islam is of great advantage for the Americans as it targets the oil-rich Muslim regions,” Shebarshin emphasized.
With military bases in Afghanistan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan, Shebarshin said, the United States has already established control over the Caspian region — one of the world’s largest oil reservoirs." |
4/19/2006 8:56:16 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
it's funny how crackpots can find other crackpots so quickly
quoting zhirinovsky as a legit source is really fucking funny
THIS FUCKIN' GUY 4/19/2006 9:09:14 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
yeah...its like...."hey!!...i found one other dude...in another country....and he agrees!!! proof!!!" 4/19/2006 9:16:11 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Before reading this, recall that several (at least 7) of the supposed "hijackers" turned up alive after 9/11. Many of the "hijackers" were framed by people using fake identities.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/12_16_01/9-11_Hijackers/9-11_hijackers.html
Quote : | "Were the 9-11 Hijackers Really Arabs? Maybe Not
[...]
Consider a formerly secret CIA assessment, Israel: Foreign Intelligence and Security Services, dated March 1979, which reported that it is a long-standing policy for Israeli intelligence to disguise Jews as Arabs: One of the established goals of the intelligence and security services is that each officer be fluent in Arabic. A nine-month, intensive Arabic language course is given annually . . . to students . . .
As further training, these Mossad officers work in the [Israeli-controlled Arab lands] for two years to sharpen their language skills. . . .
Many Israelis have come from Arab countries where they were born and educated and appear more Arab than Israeli . . .
By forging passports and identity documents of Arab and western countries and providing sound background legends and cover, Mossad has successfully sent into Egypt and other Arab countries Israelis disguised and documented as Arabs or citizens of European countries. . . . These persons are also useful for their ability to pass completely for a citizen of the nation in question. The Israeli talent for counterfeiting or forging foreign passports and documents ably supports the agent’s authenticity. Pulitzer Prize-winner Jack Anderson, a supporter of Israel, wrote on Sept. 17, 1972 that: Israeli agents—immigrants whose families had lived in Arab lands for generations—have a perfect knowledge of Arab dialects and customs. They have been able to infiltrate Arab governments with ease.
[...]
In The New Yorker on Oct. 8, Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh pointed out: Many of the investigators believe that some of the initial clues about the terrorists’ identities and preparations, such as flight manuals, were meant to be found. A former high-level intelligence official told me, “Whatever trail was left was left deliberately—for the FBI to chase.” Why Arabs would plant evidence implicating their own is a point mainstream media chooses not to address." |
More on that planted "evidence" (eg, the Koran's and flight manuels conveniently left laying around) coming up...4/19/2006 9:22:05 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
more ctrl c, ctrl v of shit you've posted 238232933 times?
WE CAN'T WAIT
THIS FUCKIN' GUY 4/19/2006 9:24:54 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
absolutely NONE of that evidence was planted...you have no evidence at all...an article stating that it COULD have been planted is not evidence...dont even post the link
i just have to post this.....salis style
ATTN: ARAB TERRORISTS WERE GAY!!!!
Quote : | "The Arab Terrorists—Were They Homosexuals?
We know that heinous killers like John Wayne Gacy, Richard Speck, and Jeffrey Dahmer were not actively colluding when they murdered all those people. But can a spiritual satanic conspiracy of grotesque proportions involving all of the world’s serial murderers be ruled out?
Consider: The world’s leading serial killers have all been homosexuals, and most have been pedophiles to boot! Don’t believe it? Check it out. Here are the top eight serial killers of the past quarter century. Note that all were homosexuals:
(1) Donald Harvey (37 murders)
(2) John Wayne Gacy (33 murders)
(3) Patrick Kearney (32 murders)
(4) Bruce Davis (28 murders)
(5, 6, 7) Dean Corll, Elmer Wayne Henley, and David Owen Brooks (27 murders)
(8) Juan Corona (25 murders)
In addition, Jeffrey Dahmer (17 murders) was a homosexual, a pedophile, and a cannibal. So, move over, fiction movie monster Hannibal Lector, the real mass killers have been exposed—and they’re all queer!
Maybe the devil himself is a homosexual—an androgynous creature. Think about it. The book of Revelation (Chap. 17) depicts Satan’s end-time religious system not as masculine but instead as "Mystery Babylon, Mother of harlots." She is described as a voluptuous, evil woman. Moreover, the book of Daniel (Chap. 11, vs. 37) in the Bible says of the coming antichrist that he will "not regard the desire of women," suggesting he also will be a homosexual.
Hmmm. I wonder how many of the nineteen Arab terrorists who did the dirty deed and massacred thousands on September 11 (serial killers) were homosexuals? According to Time magazine, the father of Mohammed Atta, the leader of the 19, his son, Mohammed, never had a girlfriend.
"He did not like girls and never dated," said the father. "We told him, you must try, because you need a wife, but he was not interested in girls."
According to the Koran, Moslems who kill and are martyred for Allah will be rewarded in Paradise with 70 virgins. But, is that 70 virgin girls, or 70 virgin boys? If it is 70 virgin girls, the dead Mohammed Ata and his murderous pals—if they are in Paradise as they thought they’d be—are very unhappy just about now.
On the other hand, if the 19 killers are burning down below, in Hell, as they deserve, they have plenty of other homosexual buddies to keep them company. Fellow queers like John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and the others.
However, seeing as how they are now tasting the infamous hospitality of their infernal host, the Devil, we can also assume that these 19 Arab homos are being kept in solitary confinement, away from each other. They are probably eating pork and beans off the hot and grimy concrete floor, with box cutters instead of spoons, and with American rock ‘n’ roll punk music piped in over the loud speakers in their cells. Yes, they’re in Paradise, at 2000 degrees Fahrenheit. " |
http://www.conspiracyworld.com/web/Articles/arab_terrorists.htm
now that....i can be proud of...it is a conspiracy that only someone like salis would come up with
[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 9:35 AM. Reason : asdf]
[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 9:36 AM. Reason : adsf]4/19/2006 9:26:59 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Then, like a script from a corny "B" spy movie, the official story gets even more ridiculous. The passport of the supposed "ringleader" Mohammed Atta, somehow managed to survive the explosion, inferno, and smoldering collapse to be oh-so-conveniently "found" just a few blocks away from the World Trade Center!
http://guardian.150m.com/september-eleven/hijackers-alive.htm" |
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.investigation.terrorism/index.html
Quote : | "New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik said Sunday a passport belonging to one of the hijackers was discovered a few days ago several blocks from the crash site by a passerby. Based on the new evidence, the FBI and police decided to widen the search area beyond the immediate crash site." |
IT'S A MIRACLE!4/19/2006 9:36:28 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
thats completely believeable....why couldnt it survive?? 4/19/2006 9:39:22 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
"HIJACKERS" GO TO STRIP CLUBS, DRINK ALCOHOL, GET LAP DANCES, AND LEAVE A COPY OF THE KORAN BEHIND AT THE STRIP CLUB THE NIGHT BEFORE THE ATTACKS--NO KIDDING!
Get ready...this is some good stuff!!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/14/national/main311268.shtml
Quote : | "In Daytona Beach, Kap said he told FBI investigators the men in his bar spent $200 to $300 apiece on lap dances and drinks, paying with credit cards. Kap said he gave the FBI credit card receipts, photocopied driver's licenses, a business card left by one man and a copy of the Quran - the sacred book of Islam - that was left at the bar.
The FBI asked him not to reveal the men's names publicly, Kap said. He said they lived in three central Florida communities between Daytona Beach and Orlando. FBI Miami spokeswoman Judy Orihuela did not immediately return a phone call." |
They took a copy of the Koran to the strip club! Suuuuuuuurrre they did! The MSM and govenrment said so. It must be true.
And what are these "devoutly religious muslim fanatics" doing at a strip club, drinking alcohol, and getting lap dances? And if they aren't deeply religious, what the hell are the doing with a copy of the Koran?
Maybe these men (if they really existed) weren't Arabs at all. Perhaps they were the Israeli spies who were "trailing" them in Florida (ie, the Israeli spies WERE the "hijackers"...were impersonating Arabs).
Quote : | "(AP) Three men spewed anti-American sentiments in a bar and talked of impending bloodshed the night before the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, a Daytona Beach strip club manager interviewed by the FBI said Thursday.
"They were talking about what a bad place America is. They said 'Wait 'til tomorrow. America is going to see bloodshed,"' said John Kap, manager of the Pink Pony and Red Eyed Jack's Sports Bar. Kap said they made the claims to a bartender and a patron." |
Wow. They were in Daytona Beach the night before the attacks! They must have hi-tailed it to New England later that night.
And why would these "hijackers" shoot off their mouths like this, risking being caught before their big day? And why would they be speaking in English? Why not speak in Arabic? WAIT! I bet this bartender and patron spoke Arabic. THAT'S IT!!
IT'S ALL STARTING TO MAKE SENSE NOW!!1!
[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 9:59 AM. Reason : ``````````]4/19/2006 9:53:18 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
salis...stop the lies...the power of suggestion is not as stong as you think
"MAYBEeeeeee.......blah blah blah...."
your pathetic
maybe they thought they were deeply religeous...and maybe they were huge hypocrites....like the zionist christians involved in the crusades.....maybe they were all about spreading the word of allah and so they took the koran to the strip club but then fell prey to the temptation of sin....
i could go on and on.....present some evidence....ANY evidence ... that jews did 9/11....an internal jewish memo....maybe from the jewish frat or something...or show me a the jewish training camp where they practiced flying plains into buildings.... 4/19/2006 10:06:22 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Hey, trikk311, did you catch this?
4/19/2006 10:09:23 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
hey salis....did you catch this???
Quote : | "present some evidence....ANY evidence ... that jews did 9/11....an internal jewish memo....maybe from the jewish frat or something...or show me a the jewish training camp where they practiced flying plains into buildings.... " |
4/19/2006 10:14:23 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "present some evidence....ANY evidence ... that jews did 9/11" |
I HAVE. I've presented tons of such evidence--including the MSM articles on the 5 Mossad agents arrested after seen filming the WTC attack and celebrating, and all the other MSM articles on Israeli spies in America around 9/11 gathering information and plotting future attacks.
Meanwhile, FBI Director Robert Mueller has admitted THERE IS NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE LINKING THE SUPPOSED 19 ARAB "HIJACKERS" TO THE 9/11 ATTACKS:
FBI Director Muller publicly admits that there is no evidence linking the named "hijackers" to the 9/11 attacks: http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/speeches/speech041902.htm
Quote : | "The hijackers also left no paper trail. In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper – either here in the U.S. or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere – that mentioned any aspect of the September 11th plot." |
(for above statement, go about 1/4 down article)
Note the significance of that admission. Not one piece of paper. Not one shred of evidence of any "al Qaeda" terrorist plotting the 9/11 attacks.
BUT WHO CARES ABOUT NOT HAVING ANY EVIDENCE? WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MUSLIM COUNTRIES TO INVADE!!
[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 10:31 AM. Reason : ``````````]4/19/2006 10:23:53 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I HAVE. I've presented tons of such evidence--including the MSM articles on the 5 Mossad agents arrested after seen filming the WTC attack and celebrating, and all the other MSM articles on Israeli spies in America around 9/11 gathering information and plotting future attacks." |
you have never presented ANY evidence. you have presented crackpot theories and accusations, but the only evidence that's been given by you is that you are a fucktard.4/19/2006 10:38:44 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you have never presented ANY evidence. you have presented crackpot theories and accusations" |
So you deny that I've provided dozens of "mainstream" media articles in this thread?4/19/2006 10:53:04 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
articles that don't prove anything in the way of your conclusions. 4/19/2006 10:56:48 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I HAVE. I've presented tons of such evidence--including the MSM articles on the 5 Mossad agents arrested after seen filming the WTC attack and celebrating, and all the other MSM articles on Israeli spies in America around 9/11 gathering information and plotting future attacks." |
these articles you post about celebrating jews are just that. they are 100% NOT proof of anything other than 5 jews were happy when the 9/11 happened. Come up with some proof. Not something you have to read into. Not something to which you will say "if you cant see it then your a zionist son of satan"....come up with something that will make me go "wow...ok then"
when you do that i will surely tell you..4/19/2006 11:14:49 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
U.S. INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS AND INVESTIGATORS BELIEVE THE "EVIDENCE" LINKED TO THE NAMED HIJACKERS MAY HAVE BEEN PLANTED, DOUBT BIN LADEN WAS THE TRUE MASTERMIND, SAY A "MAJOR FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SERVICE" (MOSSAD?) MUST HAVE BEEN INVOLVED
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?011008fa_FACT
Quote : | "The C.I.A. and the failure of American intelligence.
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH 10-01-2001
[...]
Many of the investigators believe that some of the initial clues that were uncovered about the terrorists' identities and preparations, such as flight manuals, were meant to be found. A former high-level intelligence official told me, "Whatever trail was left was left deliberately—for the F.B.I. to chase."
In interviews over the past two weeks, a number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden's capabilities. "This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he's running this operation?" one C.I.A. official asked. "It's so huge. He couldn't have done it alone." A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. "To get somebody to fly an airplane—to kill himself," the official added, further suggests that "somebody paid his family a hell of a lot of money."" |
4/19/2006 11:30:28 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
on and on, undeterred 4/19/2006 11:31:45 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
damn straight
did you really expect a little trolling, smear, and a lot of weak denial tactics to silence me? 4/19/2006 11:37:59 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
ok....so some officials at the CIA and the FBI think "man, this would be hard to do from a cave. someone else must have been involved"
and what have we proven? NOTHING
come on salis. do you have any proof at all? about anything? i am sitting here waiting to be convinced
and no one is calling you names or trolling you. stop playing that card...its sad 4/19/2006 11:54:25 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
FBI ADMITS THE REAL PERPETRATORS OF THE 9/11 ATTACKS WERE "SOPHISTICATED" AND FRAMED AT LEAST SOME OF THE 19 NAMED "HIJACKERS" USING FAKE IDS
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/21/inv.id.theft/
Quote : | "Expert: Hijackers likely skilled with fake IDs
September 21, 2001 CNN
(CNN) -- FBI Director Robert Mueller has acknowledged that some of those behind last week's terror attacks may have stolen the identification of other people, and, according to at least one security expert, it may have been "relatively easy" based on their level of sophistication." |
And if this "sophistacated" group framed these men using fake IDs, would it not then be likely that they also planted other "evidence" to frame the men? Hmmmmmm. I wonder if that's possible?4/19/2006 11:59:28 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
yeah it's possible
now show some proof that it happened.
i mean the moon being made of lint it possible. 4/19/2006 12:00:46 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
its possible....notice he said "may"...may have been planted. why would he say this if he was sure!?!?!? he must be part of the zionist plot
and of course Bin Ladin is sophisticated. no one actually beleives he lives in a cave in afghanistan.
show some proof that it happened. by not showing any proof you are admitting that there is none. 4/19/2006 12:09:08 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "now show some proof that it happened. " |
Uhhhh, did you see the story I posted above about the passport that supposedly survived the explosion and landed a few blocks from the WTC...and the story about "hijackers" going to the strip club and leaving their Koran behind?
Or how about the phony bin Laden tapes used to "prove" bin Laden's guilt?
If you believe this kind of "evidence" put forth by the government supposedly proving their case, then I guess you'll believe anything the government tells you.4/19/2006 12:10:23 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
^ none of that proves anything
it's all supposition as to how the passport got there, whether it was planted or it really did survive. how do i know if these people would leave a koran in a strip club? how do i know how, if or when it got there?
you link to information that shows an end result that you can use to support your wackjob argument and then you make up how it happened. none of that is proof.
[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 12:12 PM. Reason : *] 4/19/2006 12:11:55 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
i saw all those stories....and read them all...and they dont prove anything...and i can see your response now "then you are blinded by the jews!!! and wont face the truth!! and are in denial!!"
dont try that crap either....
you have not proven anything....come with the proof man...im waiting 4/19/2006 12:14:53 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
PLANTED "EVIDENCE"--THE PHONY BIN LADEN TAPES
BBC: "Bin Laden tape 'not genuine' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2526309.stm
Here is a CNN article referring to a Dec. 2001 video tape that supposedly shows bin Laden taking credit for the 9/11 attacks:
CNN: "Bin Laden on tape: Attacks 'benefited Islam greatly' http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/ret.bin.laden.videotape/
Now, take a close look at picture of the man from that tape that is purportedly the real Osama bin Laden. Here is a comparison of the photo of the man from that video tape and a photo of the real Osama bin Laden:
It is obvious that the man from the Dec. 2001 tape is not the real Osama bin Laden.
More:
The Fake bin Laden Video Tape http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html
The Fake bin Laden Audio Tape http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/binladen_audio.html
Is the 2004 Bin Laden Video Tape A Fraud? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape2.html 4/19/2006 12:15:21 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
we have already seen that cause you have posted in 10 million times...IT PROVES NOTHIING
where is the proof??? 4/19/2006 12:16:40 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "U.S. INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS AND INVESTIGATORS BELIEVE THE "EVIDENCE" LINKED TO THE NAMED HIJACKERS MAY HAVE BEEN PLANTED, DOUBT BIN LADEN WAS THE TRUE MASTERMIND, SAY A "MAJOR FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SERVICE" (MOSSAD?) MUST HAVE BEEN INVOLVED" |
That article never mentions Mossad. Once again you are jumping to conclusions based on your blind hatred of jews.4/19/2006 12:17:03 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "IT PROVES NOTHIING" |
Those "bin Laden" tapes are phony...and you know it.4/19/2006 12:18:03 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
SO WHAT!!!
you dont know who made them!!! where they came from or anything!!
how do those phoney tapes prove that jews...through the US government...made 9/11 happen??? 4/19/2006 12:20:20 PM |