I'm in the school of thought that Walt will be going to save Hank or Jesse with the guns and ricin.

And yes, Ernie, that is right.

9/9/2013 5:48:53 PM

you people think jesse or hank is held captive for so long that walt's hair grows back?



[Edited on September 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM. Reason : oh I guess this has been discussed already]

9/9/2013 6:05:43 PM

Gomez and Hank die. They capture Walt and Jesse and Walt cuts a deal to leave them Jesse as a hostage/cook and he bails town with family starts a new identity. Marie goes crazy and burns there house down / spray paints it. Walt has a guilty conscience and goes back, cuts a deal to free Jesse in exchange for his cooking servitude. He takes the ricin and gives Jesse the lotto ticket with the last request to get the money to his wife/family.

Only issue is that doesn't really account for the gun but perhaps doesn't want to go unarmed.

Just a prediction.

9/9/2013 6:12:59 PM

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"you people think jesse or hank is held captive for so long that walt's hair grows back?"

That's a good point, I forgot that his hair was grown back in the flash forward.

My hesitation with them taking Hank is that they have no need to keep him hostage. Jesse can cook for them. Keeping a DEA agent hostage is an unnecessary risk. But they could use him to force Walt to cook. There was already some confusion over why Walt suddenly didn't want them there and why he's yelling "don't do it" before the gun fight. They may subdue Hank and be just about ready to kill him and find out he's Hank's bro-in-law/that Walt really doesn't want them to kill him.

And that could carry them over long enough Walt cooks for them for a while (long enough for hair growth).. but I don't know. That seems like a long time to keep hank hostage if all he is is a threat to make Walt work.

who the hell knows. But I do think Walt will be using those weapons to rescue someone. It will be his last bit of "redemption" as a character. And I think it's got to be Jesse or Hank IF that's how it plays out.

9/9/2013 6:24:55 PM

Or maybe...he goes back after getting the heck out of dodge and is simply a fugitive from everyone. Hank dies in the shootout, but between Gomez, Jesse and Marie they are still able to make a case. House is possessed; Skyler is serving her time for money laundering. Walt Jr is eating pancakes and Marie has Holly. Through the course of media coverage Walt realizes that the DEA doesn't uncover all the barrels. So he's on his way back to get the last of his money, the gun is protection, and the ricin is for him in case the nazi super friends or the DEA rolls up during his final dig.

Or something.

[Edited on September 9, 2013 at 6:56 PM. Reason : ]

9/9/2013 6:54:40 PM

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"Marie goes crazy and burns there house down / spray paints it."

this would be one of the silliest images in television history.

9/9/2013 7:34:21 PM

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"House is possessed"

9/9/2013 7:49:55 PM

Yeah be careful for those on your house hunt

Repossessed

9/9/2013 7:51:33 PM

This evoked the same response that the Red Wedding did in GoT for sure.

But here they let you sit for an entire week with hope, even though you know there isn't any.

9/9/2013 7:59:35 PM

people comparing this to a red wedding ending are completely unwarranted. i knew red wedding was happening and i was surprised (as were people who read the books). just say it was good or you really liked it. comparing it to the red wedding is like just pointing to something in the room and saying you love it.

9/9/2013 8:33:40 PM

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"people comparing this to a red wedding ending are completely unwarranted. "

people are stupid

9/9/2013 9:22:29 PM

I like this alternate ending

http://youtu.be/YNZF9exG0Y4

9/9/2013 9:27:52 PM

^^just called me stupid (indirectly)

9/9/2013 9:38:23 PM

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"people comparing this to a red wedding ending are completely unwarranted."

uh no?

1. Both scenes have aired within a few months of each other.
b. Both involve long time established characters that audiences have grown accustomed to rooting for meeting their (possible) demise.
3. Both situations were somewhat of an unexpected development.
d. Both situations evoke similar emotional responses.

Do you need the rednecks to pull up with crossbows or the Starks to start dealing meth to comprehend why people respond similarly to both situations?

[Edited on September 9, 2013 at 9:39 PM. Reason : *]

9/9/2013 9:38:34 PM

Good to see Lokken still bringing the dumb to the party.

[Edited on September 9, 2013 at 9:45 PM. Reason : I mean, you forgot to mention how I was sitting on the same couch for both episodes...]

9/9/2013 9:43:32 PM

here is my theory. nazi's kill gomez/hank and take jessie/walt hostage to cook for them. (not knowing the money was buried there) gomez and hank's bodies are found and marie tells police it was walt. manhunt for walt. meanwhile, skylar, is panicking as she knew what walt was doing and was involved laundering money, etc. furthermore, she thinks walt was responsible for hank's death. she goes to saul for help and he recommends them disappearing. she and the kids disappear. not long after, walt escapes nazis and gets gun/ricin to try to save jessie as a last redeeming act. walt survives, jessie dies. the show ends with walt in the desert with his money barrels with no way to get it to his family.

9/9/2013 9:44:19 PM

In the next scene they take hanks head off and replace it with a rock, cause he likes rocks



[Edited on September 9, 2013 at 10:12 PM. Reason : ,]

9/9/2013 10:10:33 PM

you'd think if Jesse was being taken he'd barter the knowledge of there being assloads of money right under them for his freedom

9/9/2013 10:11:41 PM

^^MINERALS

9/9/2013 10:35:55 PM

The only person who knows exactly where the money is buried is Walt

Todd's uncle and Aryan crew have the GPS coordinates, so probably have the 2nd best idea of where the money is buried, exactly...but they'd still have to cover many hundreds of square feet, depending on how accurate their GPS is, how deep the money is buried, etc. Though it would be worth spending days and days digging if you know the reward is hundreds of millions of dollars or however much it is

Everybody else just knows the general vicinity. It could take months even with a shitload of backhoes and diggers to find those barrels within the general vicinity.

9/10/2013 12:11:55 AM

I feel like some sort of technology could be used to find it rather than randomly digging? If it was the DEA looking at least.

Science, bitch?

9/10/2013 12:14:18 AM

Maybe. But the barrels are plastic, so it'd probably be harder. 55-gallon steel drums would've been a lot easier to find with magnets.

Also when I was watching the end of the previous week's episode and Jesse gets on the payphone, it seemed like he temporarily switched his catch-phrase from "bitch" to "asshole"

[Edited on September 10, 2013 at 12:24 AM. Reason : add another blue note]

9/10/2013 12:23:17 AM

yeah i think he uses "asshole" when he's more serious sometimes

9/10/2013 12:40:05 AM

Sonar fools

9/10/2013 7:48:06 AM

the AB don't actually know the money is there though. so i'm guessing that comes into play early next week.

9/10/2013 8:01:17 AM

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"Good to see Lokken still bringing the dumb to the party."

I'm flattered you remember me, but I can't say I know who you are. I see you have an excellent point and contribution to the conversation; especially negating my reasoning for explaining why someone might think of the red wedding when watching this particular episode of breaking bad.

[Edited on September 10, 2013 at 9:39 AM. Reason : I also see you edited your post; took you more than one go to pump out that gem?]

9/10/2013 9:39:12 AM

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"1. Both scenes have aired within a few months of each other."

That's a reason that goes against you if you ask me. BECAUSE they've both aired recently you're searching for a comparison that isn't there but you can't go trolling into the depths of your memory too far back to find a better suited match so you'll just go with "the last time everyone talked about a big tv episode."

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" b. Both involve long time established characters that audiences have grown accustomed to rooting for meeting their (possible) demise."

Except one did and one didn't. Someone (three and a half!) dying is definitely different than ending with a shootout. Especially when everyone has stormtrooper aim. For all we know Todd gets killed and the rest of the episodes are Hank/Gomez/Jesse/Walt v. Nazis...

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"3. Both situations were somewhat of an unexpected development."

Here's where you really lose me. As soon as Walt gave those coordinates, you knew what was going to go down soon, if not in the immediate future. The Red Wedding literally walked behind you and slit your throat. Simply no comparison based on the severity or the surprise to me.

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"d. Both situations evoke similar emotional responses."

Again, I think you're personally way off but that's because seeing a mother queen and child, husband king, and elder mother get massacred out of the blue at a dinner party sounds to me like it should evoke a more emotional response than drug related shootout that was hinted at for the last 10 minutes.

9/10/2013 1:49:47 PM

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"That's a reason that goes against you if you ask me. BECAUSE they've both aired recently you're searching for a comparison that isn't there but you can't go trolling into the depths of your memory too far back to find a better suited match so you'll just go with "the last time everyone talked about a big tv episode.""

Yep, I get what you're saying. I am not claiming the scale, setting, or even implications are especially relatable. I am just saying its another scene where you have characters you've rooted for for a while, that are long established, meeting their doom (or possibly, we don't know quite yet with BB but things are grim). BB doesn't coddle the viewer with happy endings, much like GoT.

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"Again, I think you're personally way off but that's because seeing a mother queen and child, husband king, and elder mother get massacred out of the blue at a dinner party sounds to me like it should evoke a more emotional response than drug related shootout that was hinted at for the last 10 minutes."

10 minutes? Wasn't it all in pretty much the same scene? He called the nazis, got arrested, and the nazis showed up. It all happened pretty fast. Ill agree Red wedding was more 'out of the blue' but it had heavy foreshadowing as well.

Hanks phone call was pretty damn gut-wrenching to me, same way I felt watching red wedding. Specifically when the music changes and you see the great hall's doors closed from Caitlyn's view. That overwhelming sense of dread. I mean yeah it was a drug shootout but that doesn't diminish a connection with a character. At least for me anyways.


[Edited on September 10, 2013 at 4:19 PM. Reason : *]

9/10/2013 4:16:24 PM

The main difference is that in BB, a good number of viewers were hoping for the Nazi's to show up and start wrecking shit. I don't think anyone watching GoT was rooting for a Stark slaughterhouse.

9/10/2013 4:34:21 PM

I, for one, was not hoping for the nazis to show up and start wrecking shit

big fan of never pulling for nazis

were there really a substantial amount of people hoping for that? and still pulling for Walt in any way?

9/10/2013 4:38:09 PM

I'd say that's pretty representative of the viewers who are still in the Walt fan club.

9/10/2013 4:42:17 PM

I'm still pulling for Walt

Sure, he's become a monster, the devil, and whatever else people in the show have accurately called him

But I was on his side when he was just a poor, cancer-ridden school teacher, and I'm not gonna stop rooting for him just cause he's become a cold-blooded kingpin killer

9/10/2013 4:46:39 PM

People on the internet seem to justify pulling for Walt by saying things like

"Jesse's a coward." (Because Walt calling in a white power hitsquad because he can't bring himself to kill Jesse just screams "BRAVE")

"Hank should have stopped investigating when his boss told him to." (This argument just, ugh. In that case maybe Walt should have stopped cooking when his wife told him to. Instead he literally raped her [I think? Implied post-credits of s05e02? Not to mention the kitchen rapey scene a while back]. What a hero.)

"Hank beat up Jesse a while back! He's evil too." (Let's not forget that this happened because of the "Marie's in the hosptial" stunt engineered by Walt, IIRC)

"Walt has done so much for Jesse. Saved his life and shit." (Yeah, and Jesse has saved Walt's life too. This isn't a free pass to manipulate someone for life and murder/hurt multiple people he loves)

I've actually seen all these. The double standards used by Walt fans are pretty astounding.


[Edited on September 10, 2013 at 5:28 PM. Reason : /]

9/10/2013 5:25:11 PM

If people want to cheer for the bad guy, they should just cheer for the bad guy, and not make excuses about it. My only excuse is he USED to be a good guy, and I'm loyal, like an old dog.

9/10/2013 5:37:01 PM

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"I see you have an excellent point and contribution to the conversation;"

I dunno, I think pointing out the fact that you've been injecting TWW with your stupidity for the better part of a decade is pretty valuable info, to be quite honest.

I remember the first time I got into a "discussion" with you and several other people came along and mentioned how dumb you were, and I actually found it pretty helpful to have that bit of information. I'm simply trying to pay it forward to people that might not know any better.

9/10/2013 6:39:56 PM

I'm cheering for the bad guy.

9/10/2013 10:36:14 PM

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"I feel like some sort of technology could be used to find it rather than randomly digging? If it was the DEA looking at least. Science, bitch?"

For sure. There are a few different technologies that could be used. This kind of stuff is done all of the time to find where tanks are buried (old gas stations), large rocks on building sites, sink holes, etc. They mostly use ground penetrating radar. But they use some other stuff too depending on the job, what they're looking for/trying to determine, etc. I have a friend who is a geologist and this is a small part of what he does for a living. He was just telling me about new equipment they have that can make 3d images of the sub-surface, which results in less interpretation of other readings for them for their conclusions. And they can cover large areas easily. They strap this kind of equipment to 4-wheelers and pull it behind them. They cover pretty large areas in a day. If they knew it was in that general area, they could locate the barrels pretty easily by hiring someone who did that kind of stuff.

You could have this done for practically nothing next to what you stand to gain from those barrels.

And..... back to the show..........

9/10/2013 10:46:50 PM

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"The main difference is that in BB, a good number of viewers were hoping for the Nazi's to show up and start wrecking shit. I don't think anyone watching GoT was rooting for a Stark slaughterhouse."

I've mainly been rooting for Jesse throughout most of it. I've had some compassion for Walt, especially vs Gus and even more-so early on in the series, but its become pretty hard to root for him since the Brock poisoning; and forget about it this season. I can't imagine anyone was rooting for a (potential) Jessie/Gomie/Hank slaughter there at the end.

I mean I had compassion for Gus up to a point with the history they showed. I would assume everyone was rooting for him vs the cartel but those feelings can only go so far with how ruthless they showed him being. Walt is following the same path for me. (though obviously not quite to the same extreme) I think a lot of people root for him just to see how he will get out of the next tough situation, which is understandable.

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"I dunno, I think pointing out the fact that you've been injecting TWW with your stupidity for the better part of a decade is pretty valuable info, to be quite honest. I remember the first time I got into a "discussion" with you and several other people came along and mentioned how dumb you were, and I actually found it pretty helpful to have that bit of information. I'm simply trying to pay it forward to people that might not know any better."

Oh wow, you're trying really hard here. I've clearly made an impact on you and while I still don't remember anything about you. Based on your input here though, I can see why you're pretty forgettable. Also, to be salty over a message board interaction with someone who doesn't know you and doesn't care about you for a decade is cringe worthy. I'd suggest moving on. Or you can respond about how you don't really care and it took very little effort to remember it, etc. Internet trolls all work pretty much the same. This is the last time I'm going to respond to you; unless of course you actually have a contribution to the discussion, which is doubtful.

9/11/2013 9:35:57 AM

Could you bitches take your sandy vagina shootout somewhere else

9/11/2013 9:59:59 AM

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"I, for one, was not hoping for the nazis to show up and start wrecking shit big fan of never pulling for nazis were there really a substantial amount of people hoping for that? and still pulling for Walt in any way?"

I just didn't want this to end with Walt getting arrested. I want to see some crazy as shit happen, and Walt being put behind bars would not suffice.

And I would be okay with Walt and Jessie getting away. Walt is going to die from cancer soon anyways. And he has been caught...so that part of his ego has taken a big hit. Let his family have some money, let Jessie get away, and have the Nazis get killed at the end (along with Lydia), and I'd be perfectly content with the ending.

I could give two shits about Hank/Marie/Gomie.

9/11/2013 10:31:42 AM

A couple of things.

When ducking behind a rock, Walt shed some genuine tears. I could be mistaken but was that a first for the series?

Walt never said that he understood his rights. He went straight to calling Jesse a coward, which I believe means that he would have gotten released on a technicality had the neo-nazis not shown up.

Gomie looked clearly wounded to me. He and Hank are dead men.

Please tell me there's a GIF of walter junior flipping his hand saying "have an A1 day" somewhere.

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"I feel like some sort of technology could be used to find it rather than randomly digging? If it was the DEA looking at least. Science, bitch"

Didn't they do that near the beginning of Jurassic Park?

[Edited on September 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM. Reason : ]

9/11/2013 1:13:58 PM

i can't wait for Walt's patented exasperated "Wait...wait.........wait...just a minute" before he reveals the location of the hidden money to save Jesse/Hank's life.

9/11/2013 1:52:04 PM

^ hahaha

I legitimately laughed out loud over that one

gg

also

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"Walt never said that he understood his rights. He went straight to calling Jesse a coward, which I believe means that he would have gotten released on a technicality had the neo-nazis not shown up."

prettttttty sure it doesn't work that way

[Edited on September 11, 2013 at 1:54 PM. Reason : there's that whole "right to remain silent" thing]

9/11/2013 1:52:44 PM

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"Walt never said that he understood his rights. He went straight to calling Jesse a coward, which I believe means that he would have gotten released on a technicality had the neo-nazis not shown up."

You don't necessarily have to confirm that you understand Miranda rights; they just have to be read to you. Miranda rights aren't really relevant here. Anything the person says after arrest but before being read their rights cannot be used as evidence in court. That's all it means.

9/11/2013 1:54:01 PM

#teamwalt

9/11/2013 1:56:46 PM

^^Good to know. On second thought, since it was an arrest by the DEA, I remember when the marathon bomber got arrested there was something about how Miranda laws are different for federal cases anyways.

9/11/2013 3:17:49 PM

Better call Saul!

http://m.deadline.com/2013/09/breaking-bad-saul-goodman-spinoff-amc-series/

9/11/2013 7:11:08 PM

it'll be a prequel series... so no one is guaranteed to survive

9/11/2013 9:39:29 PM

[Edited on September 13, 2013 at 12:38 PM. Reason : too big]

9/13/2013 12:36:25 PM

lol

9/13/2013 2:00:37 PM