ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Thomas De Thaey ? @de_thaeyGOPACK
The only person that can tell me I can't do something, is myself! Heading to Raleigh tomorrow, ready to kill!! #NewStart
And I'm not that kinda person, that's going to talk to talk! When I say something I mean it! Heading over there with one goal! #KILL" " |
TDT is becoming more and more the giant brute we need...
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
[Edited on April 13, 2012 at 7:29 PM. Reason : reposting the quote]4/13/2012 7:29:11 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds like some Baylor shit is going down. 4/13/2012 7:35:15 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
I'd venture to guess Lewis shoots ~30% from 3's next year.
A few reasons.
1) He's short and will struggle to get good looks
2) Freshmen tend to get nervous and miss a lot of shots they would normally make
3) Freshmen tend to focus on gaining strength and weight lifting destroys their shot
4) He will get somewhat inconsistent minutes which can affect shooting confidence
Remember, even Scott Wood was a lousy 3 point shooter when he first got here and he was heralded as a great shooter coming out of HS. 4/13/2012 8:53:14 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
37% ain't lousy.
But I agree about Lewis. 4/13/2012 8:58:20 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Well, I was referring to when he first got here and started 9/42 (21.4%) in his first ten games.
The point is the college game takes some adjustment. Wood was getting about 30 minutes per game early his freshman year and is a natural shooter so he got acclimated a lot quicker than I believe Lewis will.
Lewis responsibility will be to run the offense and that can take a toll on your shooting %'s early in your career. Particularly if you're adjusting to new muscle mass. Strength training can wreak havoc on your muscle memory.
[Edited on April 13, 2012 at 9:09 PM. Reason : a] 4/13/2012 9:08:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
9/42 in his first ten games, 31/61 in his next 10, big whoop 4/13/2012 9:25:31 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "when he first got here" |
4/14/2012 1:45:20 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
face is right, dont expect lewis to come in nailing three pointers, he does have an ugly shot. we really just need him to hit open jumpers when his defender doubles off him, which hopefully he can do consistently by his sophomore season 4/14/2012 1:56:42 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
If we can get AJ production out of Lewis it will be a good thing. I am not holding my breath though. 4/14/2012 9:32:15 AM |
TJB627 All American 2110 Posts user info edit post |
Well we didn't get Oriakhi
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7811583/alex-oriakhi-transfer-missouri-tigers
I was kinda hoping he might replace Painter just in case AJ doesn't work out 4/14/2012 10:15:27 AM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
boo.
least the rest of our triangle brethren didn't get him? 4/14/2012 10:23:13 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Lewis is a player. He's got a little white boy Napoleon complex to boot. I think we'll get at least the AJ level of production, anything above that being gravy of course. If he can actually create something off the dribble on offense, then he'll be light years beyond what we got out of AJ and what we can actually reasonably expect for a freshman PG. The only thing AJ brought was a decent 3 point avg and that telepathic alley to CJL that worked about 50% of the time. 4/14/2012 10:25:26 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only thing AJ brought was a decent 3 point avg and that telepathic alley to CJL that worked about 50% of the time. " |
2:1 assist to TO ratio was pretty big out of your backup PG.4/14/2012 10:31:02 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1177094.html
[Edited on April 14, 2012 at 10:58 AM. Reason : there's no info about nc state in the article...but it's Scott Woods!] 4/14/2012 10:39:36 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Minimum service level 4/14/2012 10:42:43 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
aj was one of our better defenders. he won the team defense award! doubt we'll be getting that out of lewis from the get go. 4/14/2012 11:53:01 AM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
AJ needs to teach Lewis how to take charges it seems to be the next big thing in Calls for acc refs. 4/14/2012 11:59:45 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
AJ was an all-star!!!1!!11 4/14/2012 12:34:25 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
^^^i dont want to start knocking our players, but AJ was consistently abused in 1-on-1 D. the duke game comes to mind. opposing guards w/ any range would just shoot over him. of our 3 guards, i would say he is 3rd in terms of D. 4/14/2012 1:05:31 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Yeh, he would get abused for sure. But Brown was pretty bad, too, even though he should be good. He lost the UVA game because he wouldn't step out on their 3 point shooters. 4/14/2012 1:09:05 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
i mean, we didnt have a great defensive team, but i would def put AJ in the bottom half of our 7 guys, not the top 4/14/2012 1:12:24 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
i remmeber one game they brought aj in for wood as "defense for offense" 4/14/2012 1:27:44 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
So yall think staff was just being nice when they gave him the Nate McMillian Best Defender Award? 4/14/2012 1:44:34 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
prob. the coaches have no idea what kind of players they have. clearly tww knows more than they do 4/14/2012 2:30:32 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " So yall think staff was just being nice when they gave him the Nate McMillian Best Defender Award?" |
Do you really think that award means something? Like it automatically means he was phenomenal at defense? I'm sorry, but it doesn't work for me. I watched the games and, like others have said, he was abused on defense most of the time. In general, I viewed him as a liability, both offensively and defensively. Mostly that is because the players he replaced were better and taller than him, but also because there is an objective standard for good defense: stop somebody from scoring. Hell, even Wood gets a block here and there. When he was in the game I was mostly nervous and just hoped we didn't shut the bed too hard to get it back open when he went back to the bench. Same for Paint.4/14/2012 2:52:37 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I think they just wanted to make sure every player who played significant minutes got an award. 4/14/2012 3:26:24 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Well yeah they have to give each senior an award. Have you never played team sports before??
Also, we had zero good defenders last season so that was an easy one to pass off under the radar 4/14/2012 3:33:00 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Mostly that is because the players he replaced were better and taller than him" |
so like.. our backups aren't as good as our starters? hm. interesting.4/14/2012 3:47:22 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
hmm, might have made more sense to give him the 6th man award.
but yeah, he was one of our worst defenders (even though he probably took more charges than most of the rest of the team combined). gottfried just lost some credibility, since he gave a defensive award to one of our worst defenders. 4/14/2012 4:23:57 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
Painter got the 6 man award. i guess he wanted the 5th man award amirite
/lame 4/14/2012 4:44:05 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
AJ did have the nastiest pump fake ever though. 4/14/2012 5:54:53 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
^^^well even you only rank him as "one of our best" which, when you only have 7 players and a weak D in general, is faint praise.
who do you rank above him?
[Edited on April 14, 2012 at 7:58 PM. Reason : a] 4/14/2012 7:57:48 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
any details about Young's visit? 4/15/2012 1:44:21 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
I don't have premium but PP's tweet said Young thinks Leslie will stay and he liked Zo. 4/15/2012 3:55:56 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Cjl could inadvertantly screw us by telling recruits that he will stay and then bolt 4/15/2012 4:13:52 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1354596 4/15/2012 9:47:51 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^^ wouldn't that help us? it'd screw the recruits, but it'd help the basketball team. 4/15/2012 10:44:23 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Why would kids these days want to come if cjl says hes staying. 4/15/2012 10:59:28 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ that
but there's no way he would do that, and i can't believe anyone even said that. 4/15/2012 11:21:22 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Monterey Peninsula College forward Andrew Young wasn't sure what to expect from his official visit to NC State. What did he think of Raleigh and the Wolfpack?
"I had a very good visit," said Young. "I had a chance to tour the campus, check out the facilities, talk more with the coaches, and meet the players. I thought it went great. I feel like I get along well with all the players and think it would be a great fit for me.
"I didn't commit or anything like that, but that wasn't the expectation. I'm supposed to talk again with coach Gottfried and coach Moxley tonight, but I think I'll be making a decision sometime this week."
Young was able to talk with the majority of the Wolfpack's players, including forward C.J. Leslie, who hasn't announced his plans for next season, which would obviously have an impact on Young should he ink with NC State.
"I'm not trying to put words into his mouth, and I don't know what he is going to do for sure, but I think Leslie is going to return," said Young. "He's a great player and a major part of the program so I think he will stay. I know he is I think maybe a late first-rounder and they are going to be so good that could maybe push him into the lottery next year."
For Young, one of the best part of the visit was playing pick-up with the other players on the team, and he left blown away by one of the Wolfpack's top talents.
"I got to play with the guys some too," he said. "I played well, I don't think it was my best but I guess I can say that was because I had a long flight in and a little bit of jet lag. Overall, it was fun though.
"I'm telling you, it would be great to play with the point guard, Lorenzo Brown. He's by far the best point guard I've ever played with. I would pick-and-roll and he would find creases and lanes to get me the ball... at first it was hitting me and I wasn't expecting it. I told the coaches before I left that I know Leslie is going to be a first-round pick, but Brown is going to be one next year too. He is a great player."
Young led the state of of California in scoring (22 points per game) and rebounding (14.2) as a sophomore, and picked up several scholarship offers throughout the process. However, he has narrowed his list down to three schools, NC State, Oregon, and Texas A&M. What is the biggest strength of each school?
"With Oregon, I feel like that is where I could probably make the biggest impact right away," said Young. "I think they have the biggest need and I could go in and make the biggest impact.
"At Texas A&M, I have a great relationship with the coaches. I trust them a lot and feel comfortable with all of them.
"With NC State, I love the offense, and I feel like they have a great team. They are going to win a lot of games this year, and I think it would give me a chance to show what I can do on the biggest stage."
While they all have pluses, they have some minuses as well.
"Texas A&M is entering a new conference, and I don't know how that will play out," said Young. "It could be good, it could be bad, you don't know, but with them going into the conference with Kentucky it would probably be hard to win big.
"It's the same with Oregon. Being in the Pac-12, you have Arizona and UCLA who are normally strong, and the conference has been down as well.
"NC State, it might be distance. Obviously that isn't a big factor for me, but it would probably be a bit of an adjustment for me early on. It was a little bit of a culture shock for me on the visit, a new experience."
A decision should be announced in the near future.
"I hope to have it made this week," said Young. "I need to get back home and talk with my coach some more and I'll be ready to decide. I don't think it would be wise to name a leader in an article right now with me being so close to making a decision, but I know I'll have made my choice soon."
" |
PP Premium article for those interested.4/16/2012 12:08:58 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i figured w/ painter out guys would want to play w/ leslie, since there'll be plenty of pt on the front line.
and god damn i love lorenzo brown so much. 4/16/2012 12:20:56 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
it's going to be alley-oop mania next year, it's just a matter of who gets in on it and who doesn't 4/16/2012 12:22:22 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ GOT 'EM 4/16/2012 9:05:20 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
ftfy4/16/2012 9:17:00 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
ftfy4/16/2012 10:01:33 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Monterey Peninsula College" |
Quote : | "Young led the state of of California in scoring (22 points per game) and rebounding (14.2) as a sophomore," |
Wait, so I am confused. Is he a HS senior, or a JUCO?4/16/2012 10:13:28 AM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
It says he plays at a college. How the fuck is that confusing? 4/16/2012 10:14:38 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
That's a serious mindfuck 4/16/2012 10:21:52 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
i was confused about him leading the state in points and rebounds: is that just junior colleges, or all colleges? 4/16/2012 10:27:39 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
JUCOs 4/16/2012 10:28:52 AM |