State/Bernie/Hillary

Abroad/9/4
Arizona/30/44
Idaho/17/5
Utah/27/6

Total/83/59 (Bernie +24)

Even if you count just yesterday, he's +19. Where did you get +6?

And then there's the Zona provisionals and all the possible voter fraud to get sorted.

[Edited on March 23, 2016 at 8:48 PM. Reason : -]

3/23/2016 8:44:02 PM

What about all the numbers of white collar workers who went home after they were in line to vote for bernie when news vame in that he already lost. How do you account foe them?

3/23/2016 9:00:36 PM

What about all the Hillary supporters who decided not to wait in that line either? Oh wait it was all Sanders supporters because that fits the narrative that everyone is out to get Bernie.

3/23/2016 10:10:09 PM

^
Hillary won absentee ballots by a lot. According to estimates, Bernie won election day votes 60-40. And it's likely the provisional ballots will go even further in his favor, because they include the independents who registered Dem to vote for him.

Counting the provisional ballots, like the secretary of state said would be done, will shift the delegate count pretty dramatically.

The mayor of Phoenix has called for an investigation and there will be a hearing on Monday.

[Edited on March 23, 2016 at 11:31 PM. Reason : .]

3/23/2016 11:29:48 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/sanders-currently-winning-democratic-primary-race-ill-prove-to-you_b_9528076.html

3/24/2016 2:23:36 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/23/sorry-bernie-supporters-your-candidate-is-not-currently-winning-the-democratic-primary-race/

[Edited on March 24, 2016 at 9:40 AM. Reason : Let me explain how 937 > 1,681]

3/24/2016 9:37:30 AM

1) you should only count pledged delegates
2) you should read the article, it explains why it was silly to decide she was the presumptive winner so early (largely due to her having such a lead because of early voters and early states but sanders gaining more support the more voters see him, but its not very long and discusses more so you should read it)

3/24/2016 10:03:01 AM

Bernie still isn't winning the race. That article reads like a typical Bernie Bro wrote it. Shocker.

3/24/2016 10:24:41 AM

I am starting to see the term "Bernie Babies" a lot more now.

3/24/2016 11:13:03 AM

Sweet what other alliterative affronts can we put after Bernie?

[Edited on March 24, 2016 at 11:24 AM. Reason : and lettuce not ignore the candidates here? Cruz Cretins maybe?]

3/24/2016 11:20:15 AM

^^
lol yeah insult all of the older supporters. that'll get Hillary votes. the bullying and childish behavior comes mostly from the side using those insults.

3/24/2016 11:32:16 AM

^^ Kasich cocksuckers

3/24/2016 12:50:17 PM

Trump Troglodytes

3/24/2016 12:59:47 PM

I'm partial to Trump's Trogdors

[Edited on March 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2016 1:10:27 PM

Bernie Babies has taken the top spot for me

3/24/2016 1:11:24 PM

That's what the election map would look like today.

I think Trump is going to do really well in the general though, I don't know if Hillary's team understand's Trumpism.

3/24/2016 2:00:23 PM

Republicans will win Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and Virginia. Possibly Arizona and Ohio.

[Edited on March 24, 2016 at 3:27 PM. Reason : -]

3/24/2016 3:26:40 PM

FYI for Arizona:

https://twitter.com/SecretaryReagan/status/712503369760251904?s=09

3/24/2016 3:52:48 PM

A hat trick for the sweep on Western Saturday. Bernie went over 70% in all 3. Washington was an especially yuuuge win.

3/27/2016 4:05:10 AM

that was exactly the kind of night he needed to become relevant again.

3/27/2016 12:03:55 PM

From the Intercept article posted in the Donald Trump thread:

https://prod01-cdn07.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2016/03/FINAL_net_fav_cand_gender-04.png

[Edited on March 29, 2016 at 2:52 PM. Reason : \/ Thanks!]

3/29/2016 2:41:31 PM

3/29/2016 2:51:49 PM

Think we'll ever find out what happened in Arizona?

Here's one possibility:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/12/28/us-voter-database-leak/#731910ce1bb9

3/29/2016 3:50:14 PM

Hillary's campaign saying they won't debate Bernie anymore because of his "negative tone." If she can't handle him, what the hell is she expecting to do when Trump gets his shots in?

3/29/2016 4:09:10 PM

Or another head of state when things get heated

3/29/2016 4:16:32 PM

that shit is all spin, from both sides.

the reality is she is in a position of dominance and has more to lose than gain with additional debates.

[Edited on March 29, 2016 at 4:22 PM. Reason : but i'll let y'all get back to your talking points]

[Edited on March 29, 2016 at 4:49 PM. Reason : V Hillary? Hypocritical? NEVER. Doesn't change my point though.]

3/29/2016 4:21:48 PM

a candidate should be happy to debate anytime, anywhere
-Clinton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UmG904VMOE

3/29/2016 4:36:52 PM

The dems had an unusually low number of debates this year. That was almost certainly at Hillary's request and you can almost see her lips move when Debbie Wasserman-Schultz talks it seems very unlikely that the head of the DNC will be putting on any more official ones.

Maybe a powerful pro-Bernie democratic supporter (not sure who they've lined up behind, but say AFL-CIO) could sponsor one and force Hillary to decline, but yeah she only suffers in debates.

3/29/2016 6:06:27 PM

If there was a debate sponsor, and Hillary was invited, she'd have to say yes. Otherwise she's giving him all the time he wants on primetime TV to talk about whatever he wants.

3/29/2016 7:34:44 PM

She said today she'd be open to a debate in Brooklyn.

3/29/2016 7:41:17 PM

Arizona results were just declared official. No further investigation needed, according to the people who fucked it up.

3/30/2016 3:57:24 PM

Sanders is not on the D.C. ballot because the party made a filing "error" and submitted his name to the elections committee a day too late.

This is getting ridiculous.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernie-sanders-district-columbia-ballot-221398

3/30/2016 7:21:13 PM

They're pulling out all the stops!

3/30/2016 9:37:41 PM

This cycle is proof there is no democracy

3/31/2016 12:36:30 AM

Unless Bernie somehow wins of course. Then it'll be proof that democracy exists!

3/31/2016 1:42:49 AM

This election cycle isn't really doing anything new, it's merely exposing how the parties work in very public ways. This has been a long time coming. Ron Paul in 2012 was a start of splitting the Republican party. The Libertarian wing of the party has been unhappy for a while. The tea party exposed how little control the establishment had over a large chunk of the base, and now Trump has almost taken control of the party through the white working class and the authoritarians.

The dems have a better firewall and a stronger hold on their party. Obama was a bit of a surprise and showed that the grass roots still held some sway. The way Bernie is being attacked by the Democratic establishment and how much support he is receiving from the voters is just exposing the disconnect between the Democratic power brokers and the voters in what they actually want.

If either of the parties steal the nomination from the person who wins the delegate count it could further weaken the parties and maybe break one or both.

One can only hope.

3/31/2016 4:27:37 AM

I wouldn't mind a 4-candidate general election. A classic republican, a classic democrat, and then Trump and Sanders as the alternative to each. Would only work with preferential balloting, though.

3/31/2016 2:02:35 PM

Most voters actually want lower gas prices. You can tell by all of the memes going around bragging about how obama made gas cheap. Its a party of fossil fuels. Republicans are at least honest about their position on climate change.

4/1/2016 3:05:16 PM

LOL Hillary campaign proposed debates

April 2nd
April 4th

"Debate us when everyone is watching something else or don't debate us at all!"

4/2/2016 2:03:12 PM

Bernie loves basketball, no way he's missing the final 4. He and Obama are on the same side of this.

4/3/2016 1:01:37 AM

New poll shows Hillary is only up by 1 point nationwide. The tide is steadily changing. Wisconsin could be the real turning point. I just hope its not too little too late.

4/4/2016 4:47:32 PM

^I saw one showing Bernie ahead.

4/4/2016 7:41:03 PM

I find the "establishment" republicans more tolerable than tea-partiers.

To be less government they seem more inclined to telling other people how to live their lives...

4/4/2016 8:16:44 PM

Scalding hot take

4/4/2016 8:23:41 PM

THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN GAP BETWEEN CLINTON AND SANDERS IS GETTING SMALLER
http://thesource.com/2016/04/03/the-african-american-gap-between-clinton-and-sanders-is-getting-smaller/

Quote :

"Here’s something you might be interested in. In late February, polls had Hillary Clinton leading Bernie Sanders among African-Americans by 52 points in Wisconsin. Fast-forward a month later, and Clinton’s lead diminished to a nine-point lead, and by March 31, a new Public Policy poll had Sanders leading in African-American voters by 11 points. poll As the race has progressed past the South, we’ve seen Hillary Clinton’s support among non-white voters get smaller, and we’ve seen the once overwhelming gap that saw Sanders failing among non-white voters close up. According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, Clinton’s 48-point lead in New York has been reduced to a mere 12-point lead. The poll also shows Sanders doing 300 percent better among non-white voters than he did in Mississippi. All the while, Clinton still holds 66 percent of the vote. At this point it is unclear how far this momentum could take Bernie Sanders in the race, but it certainly shows the unforeseen triumph of anti-establishment positions and ideals."

[Edited on April 5, 2016 at 8:21 AM. Reason : .]

4/5/2016 8:21:43 AM

http://gawker.com/justice-department-launches-investigation-into-arizonas-1769044348

Quote :

"County Recorder Helen Purcell told the Arizona Republic, “We made some horrendous mistakes, and I feel horrible about that.”"

4/5/2016 2:06:15 PM

I'm convinced that if every primary was open, like real democracy, Hillary would have never stood a chance. They have done a really good job suppressing turnout with registration rules. By that logic, only establishment democrats (hillary supporters) are allowed to vote in a lot of these contests.

4/5/2016 9:24:12 PM

Wow, so another Bernie win. This next debate is going to be huge for Hillary. She needs to make the case that Sanders is all talk and no follow through or it could be over.

I know it's only one race, but it's another race where polls showed her ahead and then she lost by double digits. If she can doesn't make some changes she could have real issues in the northeast and in California.

4/5/2016 11:08:32 PM

the math is in her favor though so its probably safer just to run out the clock than to try and hit bernie. if she takes 8 point losses in every state, she still wins. if she takes a risk or steps too far to the left, it could ruin her chances.

4/5/2016 11:13:06 PM

And he did sound fish in the daily news interview. Probably hurts him some in NY. If the media runs with that, which they will, it could hurt him nationally some as well.

4/5/2016 11:42:55 PM