This Trump U stuff is looking pretty scammy and shitty... but thats capitalism for old Teflon Don

[Edited on June 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM. Reason : Also his response to a question on Brexit ("huh?")]

6/1/2016 9:14:37 AM

They are really after this Trump U stuff.

6/1/2016 7:05:05 PM

There was a focus group a while back that showed even trump supporters were sensitive to the Trump U shenanigans. If Hillary and Bernie were smart they would be pushing this as the embodiment of everything wrong with trump (and it does embody a lot of those elements). Trump took conservatives for suckers when he convinced them Obama was Kenyan, trump took desperate people for suckers by pretending he going to teach them about real estate, and he's taking voters for suckers by convincing them he knows how to run the country.

Quinnipac poll out today shows likely voter white men seriously hate Hillary, which is pretty fascinating. The demographic that has the most opportunity in most measurable statistics needs the most coddling to get their votes. Another interesting thing about the poll is that blacks like trump less than Hispanics.

6/1/2016 10:02:58 PM

Why is that interesting? trump has said bad stuff about blacks and mexican immigrants but he hasn't said bad stuff about hispanics.

6/1/2016 10:52:57 PM

Trump used Mexican as a slur against the Indiana born judge presiding over his case. This was too recent I guess to factor into that poll, but trump has been doing this signaling from the beginning.

Trump has already said, in response to an analysis of romneys loss with blacks and Hispanics, that he's going to depend on different electoral math, which obviously means stoking whites with racial fear. This probably won't be enough, but we'll see...

6/1/2016 11:15:44 PM

not all hispanics are mexican and to assume they sympathize with mexican slurs might be a poor assumption.

6/1/2016 11:54:15 PM

I can't tell if you're being purposefully obtuse or not, but trump has been slurring Hispanics for his entire candidacy.

Either way, his still losing the Hispanic vote by huge amounts.

Which I'm sure the GOP is pisses about. They lost the black vote for 60 years and counting because of the civil rights era, trump could be costing the GOP the Hispanic vote for similar time spans.

[Edited on June 2, 2016 at 12:19 AM. Reason : ]

6/2/2016 12:17:56 AM

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" I can't tell if you're being purposefully obtuse or not"

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnn buddy it's Earl, and he purposefully trolls, always.

6/2/2016 1:12:06 AM

Maybe I just missed something. I thought I had been paying attention but IIRC, Trump has been slamming illegal immigrants coming from Mexico and the Mexican government for gaming our government, not hispanics all together. I don't recall anything else about hispanics. (if theres something else let me know)

Hispanics were already mostly democrats but a lot of the rubio and cruz hispanics, spcifically curban americans are supporting trump now. His primary numbers don't account for that since those two anti-immigration cuban americans were in the race.

You can't just assume all hispanics sympathize with illegal immigrants because they don't. Theres so many bootstrap hispanics even of mexican decent who are the first to say everyone else should have come over here the right way like they did.

Again, I'm not saying trump is not going to lose hispanics by a large margin, I'm just explaining why it should be obvious that he would do better among hispanics than blacks since he has insulted blacks but hasn't insulted hispanics as a whole. (just illegal immigrants)

6/2/2016 6:29:10 AM

He really, really dislikes Trump. So much that he feels the need to defend him every day on TWW.

^ exactly. He even said he assumes some are good people. Doesn't know for sure but assumes..

[Edited on June 2, 2016 at 7:37 AM. Reason : Earl'd]

6/2/2016 7:36:03 AM

Trump said:

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Now I've heard several Trump defenders claim he was talking about ILLEGAL immigrants, but that's not what his quote says.

Full quote, context and everything, can be found here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/06/16/full-text-donald-trump-announces-a-presidential-bid/

It's possible that he INTENDED to refer to illegals, specifically, but that's not what he said as far as I can tell.

6/2/2016 10:02:15 AM

And calling the judge Mexican in a derogatory tone does nothing to dispel the notion that he means ALL and not just illegals. Curiel is every bit as American as Trump is.

6/2/2016 10:18:39 AM

Did y'all miss the post where he said "I love the Hispanics" while eating a taco salad?

Clearly a man with great respect for the Latino peoples.

6/2/2016 10:40:14 AM

Even if you concede and say that he is talking about all mexican immigrants, that is still not inclusive of all hispanics. Just mexican immigrants.

The real context can be gathered from the paragraph before when he talks about mexico killing us

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"They're laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they're killing us economically. The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems. "

Its clearly an anti-mexico stance and nothing about the fact that mexicans happen to be hispanic. He insinuates that the good mexicans are staying in mexico and the ones coming here are, for the most part bad. He also talks about china killing us.

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"He really, really dislikes Trump. So much that he feels the need to defend him every day on TWW."

well i defend the truth and hate when people twist words intentionally regardless if i like the person being lied about or not. You should be able to hate him without making stuff up about him or spinning his positions to make them seem worse than what they are. (they are already bad). This type of stuff makes Trump stronger because the media does it all the time and Trump is counting on it so that he doesn't have to talk about the issues.


[Edited on June 2, 2016 at 3:38 PM. Reason : k]

6/2/2016 3:36:31 PM

clinton and the media are doing the same thing about nukes saying trump wants everyone to have nukes.

[Edited on June 2, 2016 at 3:54 PM. Reason : or that he wants war with mexico ]

6/2/2016 3:49:58 PM

You weren't up in here defending Clinton when Trump lied about Vince Foster. You weren't up in here defending Ted Cruz when Trump lied about his dad being involved in the Kennedy assassination. You were up in here defending Ben Carson when Trump called him a child molester.

In fact, I'm guessing you're only defending Trump now because it's fairly obvious Clinton is going to beat Sanders and you are pissed about it.

6/2/2016 3:54:48 PM

^^

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"According to Donald Trump, the United States should not try so hard to stop nuclear proliferation. On Sunday night, during a Republican town hall hosted by CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Trump declared that proliferation is “going to happen anyway.” And just a week earlier, Trump told the New York Times, “If Japan had that nuclear threat, I’m not sure that would be a bad thing for us.” Nor would it be so bad, he’s said, if South Korea and Saudi Arabia had nuclear weapons, too."

6/2/2016 3:56:48 PM

The mexican stuff is whatever because I hate what he's saying regardless of if you spin it or not but the nonintervention stuff really strikes a nerve with me because I agree with trump on it 100%

The quote you posted does NOT say he wants them to have nuclear weapons and this is the key to the whole foreign policy. Hawks pretend that we are actively creating the worst possible scenario if we do not engage in perpetual infinite military spending around the world. I don't subscribe to this idea that not overreaching to prevent the worse possible outcome means you support or are creating the worst possible outcome. The logic behind this policy is what is necessary to prevent future iraq quagmires.

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" the United States should not try so hard to stop nuclear proliferation."

its disingenuous to twist this into "wanting proliferation". That would be like saying the people who voted against the iraq war wanted Iraq to use WMD.

Let me summarize this for you
-We want to decrease military spending
-This money needs to go to american infrastructure
-These countries can pay us for protection if they still want it
-We don't want them to build nuclear weapons but its not our job to stop it
-Proliferation is going to happen eventually no matter how much money we waste "preventing" it.
-If they do build nuclear weapons, they should be able to settle their own issues like india/pakistan

The establishment is doing this as a way to hold a gun to every politicians head to say stuff like "but if you don't get involved in syria, you want isis to take over the entire country, open it up for planning attacks on the west, and sneak a chemical weapon into an american city to kill thousands of americans. Do you really want that?"

It has to stop

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"You weren't up in here defending Clinton when Trump lied about Vince Foster. You weren't up in here defending Ted Cruz when Trump lied about his dad being involved in the Kennedy assassination. You were up in here defending Ben Carson when Trump called him a child molester."

To be fair, the media called out those lies and so did everyone on here.

6/2/2016 4:25:15 PM

this guy is such a fucking tool

6/2/2016 8:27:28 PM

Good analysis of trumps tactics
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-gonzalo-curiel-diversionary-tactic-2016-6

6/2/2016 9:48:31 PM

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/trump-mexican-judge/485429/?utm_source=atltw

what a guy

6/2/2016 10:05:40 PM

^^ from that link

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"Remember: Half of whites think that racism against whites is as big a problem in America as racism against non-whites, according to a 2015 study from the Public Religion Research Institute. A 2011 study by Tufts psychology professors found that whites rated anti-white racism as a significantly larger problem in America than anti-black racism."

Who are these idiots? I mean is this real life?

6/2/2016 10:24:26 PM

that's been out there for a while

I've seen it discussed on Fox News on multiple occasions

6/2/2016 10:38:22 PM

^^
Just on TWW we have
jtdenny
JCE2011
Big4Country

probably a few others.

6/2/2016 10:44:26 PM

HUR

6/3/2016 9:10:34 AM

He likes using very simple words and phrases to explain his ideas, which is very similar to Mao's way as well.

6/3/2016 9:46:32 AM

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"well i defend the truth and hate when people twist words intentionally regardless if i like the person being lied about or not. You should be able to hate him without making stuff up about him or spinning his positions to make them seem worse than what they are. (they are already bad). This type of stuff makes Trump stronger because the media does it all the time and Trump is counting on it so that he doesn't have to talk about the issues. "

Agree 100%.

Part of Trump's popularity is due to people's hatred of the dishonest media. Anytime the media exaggerates or misrepresents the truth to support their anti-Trump message, they do more harm than good.

People get sick of the biased, dishonest media, of being told they are racist/bigot/homophobes if they don't stay within the liberal lines of political correctness. Trump's popularity was because he was the first to stand up to it.

All the liberals complaining about Trump don't seem to realize that their whining is what gives him so much publicity. I'm sure all of the anti-Trump leftist clickbait moron has shared has done nothing but make previously undecided people think "wait, if that guy is a dishonest SJW, and that link he shared is not telling the truth, and they are both anti Trump... then the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

6/3/2016 1:55:21 PM

or he's just the first to be brazenly racist while winning the nomination of a major political party, attracting enough people who appreciate his racism to clinch him the nomination

[Edited on June 3, 2016 at 2:38 PM. Reason : .]

6/3/2016 2:26:29 PM

^^ the real issue is that people, like you, are unable to comprehend rational information, and because of pockets of misinformation on internet, fall back to labelling anything that you perceive to be above your head as "SJW studies" and similar labels.

The media did screw up, there should have been more effort to frame things for the large segment of people who only accept information in emotional forms. This is how Fox News became so popular. Angry, emotional people who don't have the time or are just unable to think rationally about issues and assimilate empirical information, is what feeds Trump.

6/3/2016 4:01:51 PM

http://www.vice.com/read/the-founder-of-the-onion-predicts-trump-will-win-and-change-almost-nothing?utm_source=vicetwitterus

Here's a good article on what a possible trump presidency can look like.

6/3/2016 5:04:19 PM

he's tripling down on this judge

sad!

6/3/2016 5:05:40 PM

I'm actually more of a Bernie guy.

I just think All lives matter #ALM and disagree with the whole safe-space hyper PC infection that has taken over this country.

6/3/2016 5:55:43 PM

The guy just said "look at my african american over here" during a rally.

he's pretty insensitive and says shit that sounds bad all the time (and is when it stands alone) but the media is only going to blast that quote and not talk about the rest of the story he was telling. Thats the price you pay by not having everything you say ran through 6 focus groups and poll tested before it goes into the teleprompter.

I think he is bad enough to lose but apparently the media doesn't and feels to the need to compensate for how bad hillary is by making trump seem much worse than he really is. Good job.

6/3/2016 6:21:46 PM

That is complete and utter bullshit and you know it. The media normalized his lies for months and months. And it fed his popularity. Only within the last few weeks did they actually challenge him on is plethora of outright lies. Even still they are treating most of what he says as simple gaffes and not the truth that he knows exactly what he is lying about..

6/3/2016 7:59:39 PM

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"I just think All lives matter"

Black Lives Matter isn't exclusionary idiot.

It's a movement seeking inclusion.

6/3/2016 8:02:04 PM

That interview with Tapper about the judge.... just wow.

6/3/2016 8:08:48 PM

^^^^ you have to be kidding... the media isn't doing anything to trump except playing into his hand by keeping his name in the news.

6/3/2016 9:52:14 PM

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"MY AFRICAN AMERICAN"

6/3/2016 11:18:10 PM

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"fall back to labelling anything that you perceive to be above your head as "SJW studies" and similar labels."

Always refreshing to be lectured about a leftist study going "over my head" when your response to my criticism is "You're a dumb gay racist with a neckbeard". I guess I'm just not equipped to deal with such stimulating intellectual dialogues. Keep spamming that liberal clickbait moron, I'm sure Trump could use some more publicity.

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"or he's just the first to be brazenly racist"

You SJWs calling someone a "racist" just because they called a 'subset of illegal immigrants rapists' is exactly why Trump is so popular. He deliberately steps over the PC line with insensitive comments just because he knows it's free publicity for him. Then after the emotional, knee-jerk liberals and biased media are done exaggerating what he said, he can point at the media dishonesty and bias, and it only helps him.

6/4/2016 1:08:34 AM

I feel bad for anyone who has to interact with you in real life.

6/4/2016 1:59:08 AM

does JCE support trump?

[Edited on June 4, 2016 at 8:04 AM. Reason : TRUNP?]

6/4/2016 8:03:11 AM

This contest just keeps getting more depressing. It hasn't even officially started, and the two are already trading insults.

6/4/2016 8:33:09 AM

I cannot stand Djt. However I effing hate social justice warriors and believe they should be put in ovens like the Jews.

6/4/2016 11:11:08 PM

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"I feel bad for anyone who has to interact with you in real life."

Says the one resorting to personal insults when he disagrees with what someone says?

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"does JCE support trump?"

Nope

6/4/2016 11:32:24 PM

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" Says the one resorting to personal insults"

Pity for x != Insult for y.

^^ I see you haven't posted in a few years. Let's do that again k?

6/5/2016 1:39:00 AM

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"This contest just keeps getting more depressing. It hasn't even officially started, and the two are already trading insults. "

What are you expecting exactly? Trumps strategy is going to be nothing but bravado. His entire campaign is based on projecting the image of him as a tough guy and good deal maker, and this is legitimately how trump sees himself.

Trump can't beat Hillary in a policy discussion, so he's going to avoid this at all costs.

Trump already has most of the republicans on his side, he's going to face record numbers of people that turn out to vote against him, but he's targeting demographics that traditionally don't vote, but that are large in number (poor whites). His game plan is going to be to rile up these people with racist rhetoric, and force the media to constantly attack him on this basis, to convince unnuanced thinkers like JCE that it's really white males that are aggrieved in this country. You'll also see news with large groups of Hispanics angry at trump assembling in protest, which will also play into trumps Hands.

Hillary's statments about trump being dangerous are preaching to the choir, they're too reactive. She needs to get trump to react to her, rather than letting trump control the conversation, and she's not doing this. I think she should portray trump as a sloppy manager and someone's who's waning, with his best days behind him, to get under trumps skin, then use this as more evidence of his recklessness and lack of self control.

Trump is an innovative campaigner and its going to take creativity to stay ahead of him.

6/5/2016 2:07:19 AM

If you want to understand trump, here's a great interview with him from 1990:
https://www.playboy.com/articles/playboy-interview-donald-trump-1990

Notably, his political philosophy is nearly identical to his platform today. 26 years later, and he hasn't changed. Running for the presidency isn't a game or a secret ploy, he wants to be president.

Interestingly, he believes nuclear weapons need to be brought back as the primary symbol of our military power, he has extremely protectionist views on trade, he's completely delusional about his skill level -- seemingly believing his success in real estate is universally applicable (despite his many failed non real estate ventures), and most scarily, he believes it's valid to use aggressive state-sponsored violence to squash dissent (literal, actual fascism).

If you're not worried about a trump presidency, you will be after reading that interview and comparing it to his modern campaign.

6/5/2016 2:14:23 AM

But that is the problem moron. The Democrats need someone innovative, and Hillary is the furthest from innovative that I've seen in a long time. Part of the "Hillary is just more of the same Washington" mindset, and it is playing right into Donald's hands.

Her speeches are dry, unfunny, un-entertaining and predictable. Now, a politician shouldn't be entertaining, and it is a sad state of affairs that we've come to that point, but we can blame our ADHD culture on that. But Trump is entertaining, and it is going to be difficult for her to one-up him.

6/5/2016 8:16:22 AM

Trump's sister, a highly respected appeals judge, must be absolutely fuming it his idiocy.

6/5/2016 9:46:20 AM

^^ she doesn't have to one up him or be entertaining, she just has to throw him off his game so it looks like she's setting the terms of the election. It undermines trumps "tough" motif. . This trump U and court case thing has stumbled trump a bit but no one has fully capitalized on it. I can't tell if Hillary is trying to formulate an attack and wasting time, or if she sees it as unimportant, but it's a good opportunity.

6/5/2016 10:29:29 AM