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TreeTwista10
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not sounding credible on 60 Minutes

10/11/2015 7:52:19 PM

HCH
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"In 2007 about 12 of every 100 kids were on food stamps. Today it’s 20 of every 100."


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/the-numbers-are-staggering-us-is-world-leader-in-child-poverty/#.Vi-subnEKiA.facebook

10/29/2015 2:58:39 PM

thegoodlife3
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what could have possibly happened after 2007 to make that number go up?

10/29/2015 4:47:37 PM

HCH
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^I mean, this obviously plays to Obama's credibility. I just wouldn't be surprised if his supporters claimed it as a success.

10/30/2015 2:02:14 PM

HCH
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http://www.wral.com/little-outcry-as-hospitals-bombed-in-syria-yemen/15042112/

10/30/2015 2:03:02 PM

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what does that have to do with obama (seriously)?

10/30/2015 2:12:37 PM

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Article II Section 2 of the constitution

10/30/2015 2:49:56 PM

Bullet
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still, what does that have to do with (supposed) Russian warplanes bombing a hospital in Syria and the Saudi-let coalition bombing a hospital in Yemen?

10/30/2015 3:18:28 PM

TreeTwista10
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I hope Syria doesn't turn into another Iraq

10/31/2015 12:29:46 AM

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How the hell will it not end up like iraq? No one has a long term plan for any of these quagmires. Get rid of assad and isis then what? peaceful democracy forever?

Occupations and forced countries can't function under democracy. There must be a dictator or permanent ruling party to achieve a stability in countries with artificial borders and or population.

Anyone with any understanding of the region knows it could easily be 4 or 5 countries.

10/31/2015 9:12:30 AM

BanjoMan
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The solution is totally obvious. Just do whatever they are doing in UAE and Saudi Arabia.

10/31/2015 1:29:24 PM

The E Man
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The irony is that those are brutal, autocratic regimes too.

10/31/2015 2:49:12 PM

BanjoMan
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yeah but let's have a serious conversation here, which situation is better? Iraq and Syria now or the UAE?

10/31/2015 4:22:29 PM

The E Man
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We could invade uae and remove all of its government organizations to get the same result there

10/31/2015 4:29:11 PM

The E Man
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Doubke

[Edited on October 31, 2015 at 4:34 PM. Reason : Poast]

10/31/2015 4:34:02 PM

theDuke866
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^^^ The fuck? What its there to seriously discuss?

10/31/2015 4:40:17 PM

BanjoMan
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the fact that people always play the "Oh no, a terrible dictator" card.

10/31/2015 4:48:52 PM

theDuke866
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The House of Saud and the rulers of UAE or Qatar aren't even playing the same sport as Assad, let alone ISIS.

10/31/2015 6:56:09 PM

The E Man
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^Care to elaborate or are you just around for cute one liners and unsubstantiated figurative language?

11/1/2015 10:14:22 PM

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"In 2007 about 12 of every 100 kids were on food stamps. Today it’s 20 of every 100."


Obama wasn't inaugurated until 2009 dummy.

11/1/2015 10:53:20 PM

The E Man
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Only obama could be criticized for feeding poor children.

11/1/2015 11:10:28 PM

HCH
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^,^^ Totally what I expected from this thread.

How about his recent anouncment to send troops to Syria, despite continually vowing that there would not be "Boots on the ground"?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/10/30/16-times-obama-said-there-would-no-boots-ground-syria/74869884/

11/2/2015 1:02:04 PM

thegoodlife3
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so you're just not going to acknowledge the financial crisis of 2008?

11/2/2015 1:05:24 PM

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^^situations change. people change their minds. meh.

11/2/2015 2:06:28 PM

dtownral
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Obama gave Miami a touchdown that should have been called back

11/2/2015 2:53:19 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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I thought that this column was fairly damning.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-brenner/lost-in-the-sands-of-arab_b_8511212.html

[Edited on November 10, 2015 at 4:12 PM. Reason : ]

11/10/2015 4:06:04 PM

HCH
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"The university’s division of graduate studies explains in detail that the health-insurance cutbacks are the explicit result of the Affordable Care Act. ObamaCare’s regulations forbid employers, such as universities, from paying for their grad students’ health insurance. "

11/11/2015 9:28:34 AM

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^ that doesn't seem like a real thing... if they are grad students and getting paid in any way, they are employees, and the school can put them on a health plan.

11/11/2015 12:14:24 PM

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grad students were on the student plan and you can't give money specifically for someone to buy health insurance on the individual market, so instead they are issuing additional stipends (although since they can't ask who needs them and have to issue them to everyone, the amount is less than the health insurance).

http://gradstudies.missouri.edu/about/news-events/news-features/2015/information-about-student-health-insurance/

are there laws against having part time employees on an employee plan?

11/11/2015 1:32:53 PM

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Obama rules out U.S. troops on ground to fight Islamic State

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/16/us-g20-turkey-obama-strategy-idUSKCN0T51QS20151116

I don't necessarily disagree with the decision, but i'd love to know in detail what information he's basing this on. What are the military strategists and others with deep knowledge of the intel saying would/should happen.

[Edited on November 16, 2015 at 6:18 PM. Reason : ]

11/16/2015 6:18:27 PM

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http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/11/prominent-climate-scientist-offers-scathing-critique-of-obamas-paris-plans/

Climate summit in Paris in a couple of days with leaders of around 130 countries in attendance.

Prominent climate scientist days Obama's stand for the summit is "100% pure unadulterated bullshit".

11/28/2015 8:37:31 AM

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obama blaming access to guns for Colorado PP shooting. gun control aint going anywhere in congress so all he's doing is helping the gun companies make billions.

11/29/2015 8:26:41 AM

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+100

11/30/2015 8:23:08 PM

beatsunc
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https://youtu.be/LFCnAW27d_c

talking about colorado PP while in PARIS he says mass shootings: "this just don't happen in other countries"

12/1/2015 2:56:55 PM

HCH
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"There have been 41 mass murders in the country this year. So if that makes us all feel better, we can say we're averaging less than 1 mass murder a week! Hooray""

12/7/2015 1:58:00 PM

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I'd like to paraphrase his speech from last night.

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"Fuck your civil liberties."


There.

12/7/2015 5:01:57 PM

thegoodlife3
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how do you figure?

12/7/2015 8:26:25 PM

Kurtis636
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Nothing about using a secret, extra-jusidicial list of names to disqualify someone from exercising a constitutionally protected right strikes you as being a massive fuck you to civil rights?

12/7/2015 8:57:37 PM

thegoodlife3
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not really, no

I'm fine with someone who happens to be on a terrorist watch list not being able to purchase an arsenal of weapons

that doesn't mean that I don't want a level of transparency in how people get put on that list, though

[Edited on December 7, 2015 at 10:15 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2015 10:12:41 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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blows my mind how quickly some folks are willing to give up their right to due process

12/8/2015 12:23:56 AM

moron
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^ what do you mean? The no fly list has been around since before 2001, but just ballooned after. We gave up this right a LONG time ago regarding the list, now we're reaping what was sown by the post 9/11 era.

[Edited on December 8, 2015 at 12:55 AM. Reason : ]

12/8/2015 12:55:34 AM

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"not really, no

I'm fine with someone who happens to be on a terrorist watch list not being able to purchase an arsenal of weapons

that doesn't mean that I don't want a level of transparency in how people get put on that list, though"


For me this speaks volumes for the credibility of this tww user.

12/8/2015 9:16:18 AM

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"^ what do you mean? The no fly list has been around since before 2001, but just ballooned after. We gave up this right a LONG time ago regarding the list, now we're reaping what was sown by the post 9/11 era.
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The 2nd amendment is the only right that the GOP gives a shit about, extrajudicial lists and spying are perfectly okay as long as it doesn't have to do with buying guns

12/8/2015 10:01:52 AM

thegoodlife3
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^^what fault do you find in that post?

[Edited on December 8, 2015 at 10:02 AM. Reason : ^ ding ding ding]

12/8/2015 10:02:12 AM

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The fact that you're willing to just trust a government to responsibly keep this....list, that they want to use (and already use) to erode our civil liberties.

12/8/2015 10:18:55 AM

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i think the point is that it just used to be liberals and libertarians against the no-fly list, but now that Obama proposed using it for guns the right suddenly hates it for being so unconstitutional and suddenly the left is okay with it.

maybe this explains it better:
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"It’s a familiar story of the post-September 11 era: Democrats and Republicans are engaged in a partisan fight over the “no-fly” list created after the attacks. One party insists that the nation must take common-sense measures to protect citizens and the homeland. The other party howls that it’s an outrageous violation of due-process rules and part of a slide into lawlessness. All that’s different now is that the dominant voices in the two parties have flipped 180 degrees."

How Obama's Gun-Control Push Inverted the Politics of the No-Fly List
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/no-fly-list-inverted-politics/419172/

[Edited on December 8, 2015 at 10:54 AM. Reason : i'm not okay with it, more oversight is still needed for the list ]

12/8/2015 10:32:36 AM

thegoodlife3
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^^ you not seeing the last sentence in my post?

12/8/2015 10:37:15 AM

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"The fact that you're willing to just trust a government to responsibly keep this....list, that they want to use (and already use) to erode our civil liberties."


So are you against a no-fly list? Even if someone is on the FBI's radar as a terrorist sympathizer or is in direct connection with known terrorist organizations, they should be able to freely fly? Should the FBI even keep a list of "potential terrorists"? Or are you just against using that list to prevent the sale of guns? Weren't you the guy who was encouraging people to call the authorities if your neighbor looks middle-eastern and has middle-eastern-looking people hanging around their house?

[Edited on December 8, 2015 at 3:41 PM. Reason : ]

12/8/2015 3:36:30 PM

thegoodlife3
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I really hope all of the blowhards start attacking him for picking a Kendrick Lamar song as his favorite of 2015

12/9/2015 2:31:30 PM

HCH
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"James Hansen, father of climate change awareness, calls Paris talks 'a fraud' "


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/12/james-hansen-climate-change-paris-talks-fraud

This should have been right up Obama's alley. He couldn't even get this right.

12/14/2015 5:14:38 PM

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