everyone laughed when palpatine killed mace windu. He should have put that hood on about 5 minutes earlier. Lucas should feel embarrassed for that scene alone.

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 3:39 AM. Reason : It's me -- ZOMBIE PALPATINE]

5/19/2005 3:38:48 AM

That scene was ridiculous. It was like Palpatine was going through puberty with his voice constantly changing.

5/19/2005 3:40:16 AM

anyone know what was with obi-wan and throwing off his cloak?

he did it like 3 times exactly the same way



oh and there was no syfo-dyas explanation

anyone care to elaborate?

5/19/2005 3:40:41 AM

There's no explanation in the book.

The funny thing the movie doesn't cover is just how astray the first battle between the Jedi goes.

5/19/2005 3:42:45 AM

If you're keen on the greater story it really does make sense. The dialogue at the end of the saber fight on the floating platform and then after Anakin gets his legs cut off was really potent. Also the dialogue at the beginning of the saber fight.

^^

It had to have been the Sith, either Dooku or Sidious. Palpatine could have easily misappropriated funds and Dooku could have easily forged the order and erased all reference to Kamino.

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 3:47 AM. Reason : .]

5/19/2005 3:46:08 AM

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"Yoda's feeling like he has to exile b/c he couldn't defeat the emperor"

He exiled himself so that he could preserve the teachings of the lightside. Yoda and ObiWon were the only two jedi left by the time vader was through with everything, and as badass as, Obi won was, his knowledge and wisdom paled in comparison to Yoda's.

5/19/2005 3:48:42 AM

yeah i get that, but it just seemed so rushed. it seemed like he was saying--"i suck, i failed, i'm a disappoointment, time to run away"

and no wonder lucas said to not bring kids, he freakin killed all the little kids and showed anakin's skin melting away

you got to give him credit there for actually putting in that stuff

5/19/2005 3:51:14 AM

Yoda knew he couldn't beat Palpatine, so he bounced. It's simple as that.

No sense fighting a battle you've already lost.

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 3:54 AM. Reason : .]

5/19/2005 3:53:46 AM

was anyone else like--"anakin, stop fucking around and do what you're told! no you're not a jedi master b/c the council didn't say you were and and the only way for you to be a jedi master is for the council to say you are. stepping in for the chancellor is not an honorary jedi master position you stupid dumbshit! wtf is wrong with you? most power jedi ever must equal stupidest one ever. fuckin punk "

5/19/2005 3:57:36 AM

^uhhhh


that's just weird. I was thinking more along the lines of, "shut your fucking mouth, cocksucker, I can act better than you can."

5/19/2005 4:06:50 AM

last thing then i'm going to bed

when yoda, obi-wan and windu are discussing the prophecy and yoda says that maybe the prophecy was misinterpreted or something, could that mean that anakin isn't the one who brings balance directly or that he does by spawning luke and leia or have they made that open to interpretation?

also, the Darth Plagueis story and the creating life from the midi-chlorians was pretty cool. i think that was one explanation that was handled well

5/19/2005 4:21:42 AM

I can't believe that fucking idiot lost to Obi-Wan because he basically made a dumb-shit move in the middle of a fight. I need to see that part again to see if that was as stupid as it seemed to me at the time.

5/19/2005 4:45:13 AM

^^ He brought it into balance. At the end of the movie, there's two jedi and two sith. Seems balanced to me.

5/19/2005 4:56:39 AM

is there going to be a 7 8 and 9th movie?

5/19/2005 5:05:33 AM

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"yeah i get that, but it just seemed so rushed. it seemed like he was saying--"i suck, i failed, i'm a disappoointment, time to run away""

Part of it also is that the Emperor is always surrounded by stormtroopers and the rest of the Empire. Had the fight continued without Palpatine calling on them to hunt Yoda down, Yoda would have probably won.

5/19/2005 8:07:03 AM

1) In IV when Luke wants to become a stormtrooper-- wtf? Did they stop making clones?

2) When Leia's remembering her mother after she and Luke realize they're related, it has to be Mrs. Organa since Padme up and quit @ life four seconds after she squirted them out. I thought that was disappointing.

3) Also: damn the liberal media for inserting their propoganda into a movie. I don't want to hear about freedom and democracy versus hyperfederalism and imperialism-- I want to see kids get sliced up !

5/19/2005 8:19:00 AM

The Galactic Empire officially outlawed cloning shortly after the overthrow of the Republic. I guess that was to prevent the Rebellion from raising a clone army of its own, and I suppose it also means the cloners of Kamino got smoked. Cloning still happened, but never on a large scale. I'm sure it's much cheaper to take regular recruits, and cost effectiveness is probably a major concern when you're trying to hold down a galaxy.

5/19/2005 8:25:13 AM

Isn't Luke a little short to be a stormtrooper?

++ 4) Tacking on OMF QUI-GON LEARNED TO BE A GHOST AND I CAN TEACH YOU FOR FOUR INSTALLMENTS OF $19.99 was kind of lame.

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 8:56 AM. Reason : ++]

5/19/2005 8:32:28 AM

Yeah that part was bizzare to me. Why the crap could nobody figure out how to appear as a ghost before? How come Qui Gon was not inserted or mentioned when ghosts appeared in the original 3 movies???

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"also, the Darth Plagueis story and the creating life from the midi-chlorians was pretty cool. i think that was one explanation that was handled well "

So this just occured to me...If Sidious is supposedly behind Anakin's transformation to the dark side, then is Darth Plagueis responsible for Anakin's birth? Isn't he supposedly born of midi-chlorians and fatherless?

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Overall I was very pleased with the movie...The only acting that I really had any problems with was a) the part where Anakin and Padme are all like "No....It's because I love you more silly!" b)The Darth Vader "NOOOOO!" scream...



[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 9:04 AM. Reason : saf]

5/19/2005 8:59:54 AM

I think Anakin's birth had more to do with the prophecy they kept talking about. Episode I made it sound like an immaculate conception.

The cheating death/Terry Schiavo stuff I saw more as an example of the perversion of the Force, but I guess it would be ironic if the dark side were responsible for Anakin's birth which Qui-Gon initially interpreted as the direct fulfillment of that prophecy which he thought would lead to peace, love, and the American Way.

5/19/2005 9:15:58 AM

Well Anakin does bring about the prophecy in ROTJ by throwing Palpatine over the railing! I guess the prophecy left out the tidbit where the Sith rule the Galaxy for 20-30 years... I guess it's a win/win situation if the Sith were responsible for his birth. They get to have their fun for a while then the reigns get handed back over to the jedi and the rebels!

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 9:30 AM. Reason : adsf]

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 9:50 AM. Reason : thanks sonia]

5/19/2005 9:26:49 AM

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"It's also doesn't help that ewin mcgregor sucked balls everytime he was with hayden."

mcgregor was the best part of the movie
hands friggin down

i was so impressed because didn't he hate the role after epI and threaten to quit it?

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"damn the liberal media for inserting their propoganda into a movie"

everythings gotta be a "bias" eh?

i mean, having palpatine paraphrase some of bush's post-9/11 speeches was a bit much, but i def don't think it ruined the movie

5/19/2005 9:37:02 AM

Ewan was great but they could've gotten Ian McKellen to play Obi Wan and like it would be LotR Old Man fight all over again. XD

Ha, unless Luke was pushing 40 in A New Hope or you consider the last 20 years ruled by the sith, it's more of a two decade reign. Well, they beat Hitler at least. ;p

And don't mind my liberal media bias rage-- I'm just being ridiculous. :3 But I would like to see more kids get sliced up.

5/19/2005 9:41:20 AM

i really thought that palpatine was telling him basically "i am your father"

i assumed the point of that story was "i was the apprentice of the fallen sith lord, i know all he has taught, come to the dark side, i am your father"

5/19/2005 9:45:44 AM

I think the special effects were excellent. A lot of the places they showed, especially during the Order 66 sequence, were downright beautiful.

5/19/2005 9:52:45 AM

Yeah if it doesn't win the Academy Award for Special Effects I will eat my shoe...

5/19/2005 9:54:16 AM

p.s.
i totally went as a true lame nerd last night
in my pajamas
and i didn't take a bath yesterday

HOLLA

FUCK A COSTUME

5/19/2005 9:55:00 AM

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"and cost effectiveness is probably a major concern when you're trying to hold down a galaxy."

sums up walmart

5/19/2005 10:00:53 AM

i like how anakin started talking about overthrowing the emporer even before he truly was vader

and then he choked a bitch

5/19/2005 10:05:08 AM

Has anyone seen the fishing commercial trailer where the little 8yo girl says something like "take me fishing cause I'll be getting married sooner than you think."The whole theater was erupting with laughter last night at that line.

There was also some Childrens Miracle Network commercial with a do it for the kids theme, and it had Wal-Mart logo plastered everywhere in the trailer. Later during the younglings scene someone in the audience yelled out "Do it for the kids!!!!"

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 10:06 AM. Reason : poiu]

5/19/2005 10:05:46 AM

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"and then he choked a bitch"

He sure took his time doing it. I guess he was still new at it. In the book for IV the narrator made a huge deal about how he squished some dude's neck and made the cracking bones sound like a dog padding on plastic.

5/19/2005 10:28:05 AM

I really wanted to see an explanation of Sifo-Dyas and how his order for the clone army came to be manipulated by Palpatine... I mean, I know Dooku had a hand in that, but I was still looking for a bit more clarification. If Sifo-Dyas placed the order, then when and how did Palpatine come to alter their programming with Order 66?

Oh yeah, I was there in costume, and went all out. Quite a few people from here saw me, too.

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 10:34 AM. Reason : costume]

5/19/2005 10:32:00 AM

nerd

5/19/2005 10:39:54 AM

Is Darth Vader gonna hafe to choke a bitch?

5/19/2005 10:45:28 AM

'but but it's NOT THAT WAY IN THE BOOK' nerds are the worst type.

Even worse than that are the 'hey d00d this isnt as good as strikes back' type of asshat.



Shut all of your collective moouupths. Ep3 was f'n great. It makes the first two look like asscakes.

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 11:03 AM. Reason : RAGE]

5/19/2005 11:02:43 AM

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"b)The Darth Vader "NOOOOO!" scream..."

I thought it was odd when it happened, but now it makes sense. Padme was the last shred of humanity he had in him, and when he finds out she is dead, that scream represents the end of his humanity. We never see him show great emotion throughout the next films--he truly then becomes more machine than man.

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"also, the Darth Plagueis story and the creating life from the midi-chlorians was pretty cool. i think that was one explanation that was handled well "

This one will be debated for YEARS. Did the Sith really create Anakin? Was it just a lie on the part of Palpatine to entice Anakin to join him? Remember, that's one of the main things Palpatine uses to seduce Anakin and then all of a sudden--oh, wait, just kidding I don't know how it happens, but I might try to find it for you, oh wait, your wife is dead. Sorry you pledged your sould to me without me delivering

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"2) When Leia's remembering her mother after she and Luke realize they're related, it has to be Mrs. Organa since Padme up and quit @ life four seconds after she squirted them out. I thought that was disappointing. "

That was probably the biggest glaring problem I had with ROTS. I always kind of suspected Padme would die of a broken heart but that she'd be dying at the end of ROTS with Leia on Alderaan.

I loved the beginning of the duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan when we first see Obi-Wan standing at the top of the ramp looking down at Anakin. You know he's going to teach that kid a lesson he'll never forget. Anakin was still just the learner in that battle

5/19/2005 11:04:26 AM

^yeah, that may have been my favorite part
when obi wan is just standing there
like a bad-ass
seriously though - obi-wan = best friggin part of the movie, if not this trilogy

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" thought it was odd when it happened, but now it makes sense. Padme was the last shred of humanity he had in him, and when he finds out she is dead, that scream represents the end of his humanity."

and i think he also realized the only reason he was in this was to save her
and irony of ironies, he now thinks he killed her
so i was fine with the scream and the physical earth shaking going on around him

5/19/2005 11:54:55 AM

ROTS was great. Perhaps Leia's memory of her mother was from birth, they say infants instinctivly know their mother's from birth b/c the recognize her voice, etc. Could also be explained as her memory being imprinted, much as ducks and other animals cling to the first thing they see when they are born (ala Jurassic park).

You know the ending with the music and the suns on tatooine made it worth it, great effect!

5/19/2005 12:01:24 PM

obi wan really looked like alec guiness throughout the film. Also, the peter cushing lookalike (G.M. Tarkin) was DEAD ON.

5/19/2005 12:02:55 PM

Dying of a broken heart is the lamest way to go. I was rather dissappointed that Padme just "lost the will to live." Lame

5/19/2005 12:03:24 PM

OWNER OF A LONELY HEART!

5/19/2005 12:04:35 PM

^^

Well, it's not even as if her husband died--he was mauled and turned into a robotic monster after he tried to kill her, her children are the offspring of such a person, the republic she fought so hard to preserve is now lost--who wouldn't lose the will to live? It would fit with what Leia said--ultimately, she was "sad".

Yeah, I always had a feeling that the last shot would be of "A New Hope" (great tie-in to Episode IV).

I posted this in someone's blog today--a friend of mine is a seminarian and a lot of seminarian friends of his are Star Wars Nerds (used in all due respect), and they, as I, love the philosophical, mythological, morality and religious aspects of the film. From Palpatine's thinly-veiled Satan, to Anakin the tragic hero (or Lucifer?), there was a lot to see.

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 12:08 PM. Reason : .]

5/19/2005 12:06:14 PM

I thought General Grievous was awesome. He had so much personality.

5/19/2005 12:08:17 PM

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"You know the ending with the music and the suns on tatooine made it worth it"

i'll agree with that

when the music played softly
and the uncle was standing there looking at the two suns
i was like "hell yeah"

it makes me want to watch the orig trilogy, something i have done in YEARS

5/19/2005 12:13:37 PM

Palpatine is a Hitler character....doesn't have that much in common with Satan.

General Grievous was awesome, and I like how he's kind of the precursor to Darth Vader.

5/19/2005 12:15:23 PM

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"it makes me want to watch the orig trilogy, something i have done in YEARS"

EXACTLY, I replayed the first 30 min of ANH in my head on the ride home

Oh, and has anyone else seen the ad for Orange Cell Phones with Darth Vader?? IT is the best star wars themed commercial ever, I'll see if I can find it online. They played it in the theater before the movie in England, where I am.

5/19/2005 12:19:11 PM

http://www.boardsmag.com/screeningroom/commercials/1659/

thats it, enjoy!

5/19/2005 12:21:03 PM

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"it makes me want to watch the orig trilogy, something i have done in YEARS"

same here

5/19/2005 12:23:08 PM

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"Palpatine is a Hitler character....doesn't have that much in common with Satan."

There's many analogies that can be made. Certainly a Hitler-like character in his consolidation of power over the Republic. However, the way he tempts Anakin with unlimited power, knowledge of the Dark and more powerful side of the Force (not the dogmatic teaching that the Jedi will only let you know), his deception of Anakin and the whole galaxy, his entrapment of Anakin based on a promise that was all simply a lie, kind of gives him those charactaristics. Even Lucas flat-out claims that Palpatine is a Satan-like figure in the Faustian deal he makes with Anakin, and that he represents the God of the Underworld in his "promise" to control death.

[Edited on May 19, 2005 at 12:26 PM. Reason : .]

5/19/2005 12:23:26 PM

YOUR MAMAq!

5/19/2005 12:27:32 PM