^^^It looked to me like his watch was broken and there was a crack on the face of it. I think that the purpose of showing the watch wasn't to show the time, but so a connection can be made later between a character and the man who killed Mohinder's father

^^As of now she was a simple character that was introduced for one show and then killed off, so I don't think the girl's "super photographic memory" is supposed to be a power like the other heros. It seemed to be put in to show that the changes that are taking place are not neccessarily great leaps in evilution, but may be more subtle, and more wide spread than a just few scattered individuals. The heros extrodinary abilities could very well be the exception rather than the norm. Then again, if Hiro is able to save her, her abilities could be greater than we are led to believe. What I thought was interesting was that she said she just started remembering everything only a week before, yet Sylar was already aware of her "power" and knew where to find her.

11/15/2006 10:51:06 AM

It appears that Mohinder's little sister, who died when he was 2, can visit him in his dreams. I'm not sure if it's his sister or Mohinder that's causing him to be able to see things like his father's death, but Mohinder may actually have a power that involves manipulating dreams.

Did you all notice that in the picture of Hiro with the waitress that he looked unhappy? Clearly he teleported to the past but couldn't figure out how to get out. What gets me is that the picture shows up on the wall while the police are still there investigating her death. Does that mean that Hiro failed?

There's so many different plot lines going on...this is going to be just like Lost in that if you don't watch it from the first episode, you can pretty much forget about understanding the series.

11/15/2006 11:16:57 AM

maybe that's why peter has to save the cheerleader..... b/c hiro failed

11/15/2006 11:19:38 AM

No no, I'm talking about the waitress...Hiro failed to save the waitress because his azn friend was still in the diner and nothing had changed except there was a picture of Hiro with the waitress. Hiro does help in saving the cheerleader, though...he's in the painting with the bloody homecoming banner.

11/15/2006 11:21:09 AM

^^^^The watch is not just significant to show who killed Suresh. The Watch is exactly at 7 till 12. So the time is very significant and it's tie in to the solar eclipse is very significant.

I wonder if the watch stopped when he killed Suresh????

^It could be possible (according to other theories) that Hiro wasn't supposed to go back in time and the reason he's not back in the diner is like someone said "He's in an alternate universe" and thus that could be ninja Hiro that saved cake girl and that's why Peter has to save the cheerleader. ::breathes::

So basically we just witnessed Hiro's fuck up?

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 11:44 AM. Reason : d]

11/15/2006 11:40:13 AM

or a limitation to what he can actually do

11/15/2006 12:06:40 PM

OR he's about to walk in with diner girl at any moment like nothing happened

OR he's gonna propel himself into the future from the past to the exact place and time he needs to be to save the cheerleader

OR

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 12:22 PM. Reason : i love this show!!!!!!!!!!!!! ]

11/15/2006 12:21:34 PM

maybe you people are reading too much into this....

11/15/2006 12:32:02 PM

that be unpossible

11/15/2006 12:37:51 PM

Mohinder's "friend" who offered him that job

is pretty fucking hot.

I'd kama sutra the dogshit out of her.

11/15/2006 12:55:30 PM

i'm sure she's working with mr. bennet as well

everyone in the fucking world is somehow connected to that man

11/15/2006 1:25:04 PM

was the kid with the soccer ball alive currently? I forgot whether he appeared in reality or just in dreams and deleted it off TiVO

\/ found it in thread, thanks.



[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 1:35 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2006 1:29:26 PM

Yeah we saw it first in the second episode I believe. Shit's everywhere!

oh and Thank GOD we took a break from Nikki/DL. shit was getting old

11/15/2006 1:30:56 PM

^^No, the kid with the soccer ball was Mohinder's dead sister.

11/15/2006 1:43:26 PM

I definitely thought that was a guy

11/15/2006 1:44:28 PM

Gotta drop in here and correct a few things.

Quote :

"The circumstances are that her adopted dad (Bennett) killed her real mom when trying to "tag" her with the double lines, and since he and his wife were having trouble conceiving, he took her in."

We're not sure what that is exactly. Bennet's quote about how he came to adopt Claire goes "Some people don't see it as us trying to help them, and it goes bad". I'm not sure what Bennet is doing with them, but I don't think it's simply tagging, and I don't think it's sinister. We have yet to see Bennet actually harm anyone, and it sounds like he has helped Eden.

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"And i'm still not sure what Mohinder's dad's role is, why he was working with Bennett, and who killed him."

The man in the coffeshop with the baseball cap in this episode is the man who killed Chandra Suresh. They were both wearing the same watch. He is the man Isaac painted killing Claire, and the man who attacked the FBI in LA. Chandra Suresh was not involved with Mr. Bennet from what we know.

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"If you saw in the file he found, Mohinder's father had the power to continue his work (lucid thought) while he was sleeping. I don't think you should ask what power the girl in the dream had, you should ask to what extent was mohinder controlling the dream."

I'll have to go back and look for this. I've watched the episode twice now and not seen anything that says Chandra Suresh had the power to work while sleeping. I'm not sure if that was a boy or a girl in Mohinder's dreams, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a five year old. Not sure what's going on with that, but I do think that Mohinder is 'special' with some sort of clairvoyance.

Quote :

"As of now she was a simple character that was introduced for one show and then killed off, so I don't think the girl's "super photographic memory" is supposed to be a power like the other heros. It seemed to be put in to show that the changes that are taking place are not neccessarily great leaps in evilution, but may be more subtle, and more wide spread than a just few scattered individuals. The heros extrodinary abilities could very well be the exception rather than the norm. Then again, if Hiro is able to save her, her abilities could be greater than we are led to believe. What I thought was interesting was that she said she just started remembering everything only a week before, yet Sylar was already aware of her "power" and knew where to find her."

From what I understand, she's going to be a more important character as time goes on. I don't expect her to be dead, Hiro will save her. Her power could be extremely useful, knowledge is power and she develops knowledge at an incredible rate. To be able to speak any language, understand any electronic, etc. As time goes on she might can even use probability to tell the future like The Leader of Marvel Comics. Here is his bio:

Quote :

"The Leader possesses no superhuman physical powers, but his mutated brain possesses intelligence that is many times that of genius level. The Leader possesses total recall of every event he has witnessed since the accident in which he was mutated. His right-cerebrum higher brain functions, including pattern recognition, information storage and retrieval, and logical and philosophical structuring, have been enhanced to inhuman levels. His intuitive left-cerebrum functions have been enhanced to the point that his hunches are almost always correct."

I expect her to become a character like this, but hopefully a good guy.

I think that Hiro was trying to go into the past and save her, but went too far. He had intended only to go a day into the past and keep her from coming to work, but it looks like he went farther since he's in the picture with her. I think Hiro is just in the past, and it's a little trickier to save the waitress than he originally thought. I'm sure we will find out on Monday night.

According to Isaac's painting, Peter, Hiro and Ando are at Claire's school to save her. Those are the only three I can remember seeing.

Mohinder's Indian friend who offered him the job is named Mira. Not sure if that's how to spell it though.

We took a break from both Niki and D.L. and Micah, and Peter and Nathan Petrelli this week.

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2006 1:49:16 PM

Quote :

"^^No, the kid with the soccer ball was Mohinder's dead sister. "

yeah def looked like a dude to me too. ntm his dad had a file in his office on the kid. why would he have a file on his dead daughter?

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 1:52 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2006 1:51:39 PM

the kid with the soccer ball was also much older than 5...Mohinder's mom definitely said that she was 5 when she died and died two years after Mohinder was born

and the kid with the ball was a boy

and didn't have the same name as the dead sister

11/15/2006 1:57:34 PM

Quote :

"The man in the coffeshop with the baseball cap in this episode is the man who killed Chandra Suresh. They were both wearing the same watch. He is the man Isaac painted killing Claire, and the man who attacked the FBI in LA."

and this man isn't sylar?

and the haitian that goes around with mr bennet, the guy who made parkman pass out in the bar....i assume he's the same guy who somehow contributed to the radioactive guy getting his powers? It sounds like he didn't have those powers until he was with that "haitian student"

11/15/2006 2:01:41 PM

Yes, I think he is Sylar. I'm just not 100% sure, but all signs point to it being Sylar.

Maybe the Haitian and Mr. Bennet were "Activating Evolution" for Radioactive Ted?

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 2:04 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2006 2:03:31 PM

wiki links for those interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_(TV_series)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Heroes_episodes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Heroes_graphic_novels
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_of_Heroes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_characters_in_Heroes

11/15/2006 2:03:51 PM

uh, yeah...definitely a boy and not mohinders sister. the character is listed on imdb as sanjog iyer played by actor javin reid

11/15/2006 2:05:46 PM

Yea, I thought the child's name was on the folder Mohinder found under the desk drawer, and I don't remember Suresh being a part of it. I will recheck tonight.

The graphic novel for the week was kind of a letdown.

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 2:11 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2006 2:06:54 PM

This week's episode was great. I like the Nikki/Jessica/DL/Micah plot line but it was good to take a break from it this week. Nathan and Peter can stay on the sidelines as far as I'm concerned.

More hit TV shows should be aired on Mondays.

11/15/2006 2:58:13 PM

Quote :

"^^^^The watch is not just significant to show who killed Suresh. The Watch is exactly at 7 till 12. So the time is very significant and it's tie in to the solar eclipse is very significant. I wonder if the watch stopped when he killed Suresh???? "

Why are you so sure there is a tie in to the eclipse? On the last page you mention that Eclipses happen near midnight in some parts of the world, but thats hardly a reason to say that there is a tie in. If a show or movie do not want to reveal the identity of a character, they'll often show a unique part of their body, like a scar or tatoo, or a unique item in their posession, like a watch. Showing the watch was probably just a clue to alow the viewer to know who killed him later.

11/15/2006 3:02:05 PM

Maybe the kid is Mohinder as a child.... maybe it's himself helping him along the way in his dreams.

11/15/2006 3:13:43 PM

^I was thinking the same thing until he they showed the name on the folder...then again, he could be adopted like claire but never told.

Quote :

"From what I understand, she's going to be a more important character as time goes on. I don't expect her to be dead, Hiro will save her. Her power could be extremely useful, knowledge is power and she develops knowledge at an incredible rate. To be able to speak any language, understand any electronic, etc. As time goes on she might can even use probability to tell the future like The Leader of Marvel Comics. Here is his bio:"

cool...she was cute, reminded me a little of heather graham like i said in my original post, if Hiro does save her, there could be more to her power than we think, but I think that The Leader reference fits as well.

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 3:20 PM. Reason : meh]

11/15/2006 3:19:52 PM

Quote :

"Why are you so sure there is a tie in to the eclipse? On the last page you mention that Eclipses happen near midnight in some parts of the world, but thats hardly a reason to say that there is a tie in. If a show or movie do not want to reveal the identity of a character, they'll often show a unique part of their body, like a scar or tatoo, or a unique item in their posession, like a watch. Showing the watch was probably just a clue to alow the viewer to know who killed him later. "

I don't remember this myself, but I think someone pointed out that his watch has the same time on it every time they show it, which is 7 minutes till midnight

I personally think 7 minutes till midnight is when he's supposed to kill Clair. Seems like everyone with abilities is focused on that moment when Clair dies, so why not Sylar as well?

11/15/2006 3:42:50 PM

This sounds waaaay too picky but there's a sign behind Charlie(mind girl) and Hiro that's not in the picture behind just her alone. K Whatever.

The whole Solar Eclipse Idea was just throwing it out there because someone mentioned it. But the TIME is diffenently imporatant. I like the idea just above this post ^ .

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 4:38 PM. Reason : n]

11/15/2006 4:34:16 PM

very very nice!

helps to have pictures

11/15/2006 4:39:31 PM

Last post for now. This show makes me giddy.

Maybe Sylar/Watch Guy whatever breaks his watch when he hits Peter in the head with it and thus gives him a scar!!!!

haha

If anyone else wants more pictures from this episode tell me before I delete it.

11/15/2006 4:50:12 PM

cool pics...the first one shows pretty clearly that his watch has a crack in it and is broken, which could explain why it always shows the same time. I was pretty sure I had seen a crack when it was right against the window when he killed Mohinder's father, which is why I felt it was used more as a unique item to identify him when the creators don't want to show his face. The idea that it is the time he is supposed to kill claire is interesting, but has the time been shown elsewhere to indicate that it has some such significance? Also, any chance you can get captures of the two different pictures on the back of Suresh's book? The change was probably just a casting move, but with other significant pictures changing, and time being altered, it could be significant.

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 4:58 PM. Reason : yup]

11/15/2006 4:57:18 PM

^Well the episode was called 7 minutes till midnight. That's why I'm so all about it.

I can't get those screens because i don'thave the first 7 episodes anymore.

11/15/2006 5:52:12 PM

Quote :

"lso, any chance you can get captures of the two different pictures on the back of Suresh's book?"

Here you go.





[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 5:54 PM. Reason : .... ]

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 6:21 PM. Reason : got the better shot of the old back]

11/15/2006 5:54:04 PM

well, the episode was named 7 minutes to midnight so obviously its important

it coincides with the doomsday clock and represents mans destruction by nuclear war
see more here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock

11/15/2006 6:00:49 PM

^ and ^^^ thanks, didn't realize that it was the title of the episode

^^ cool...there is a really good shot of the old one during the beginning montage of the episode where claire starts in the morgue. just thought it was interesting...has the current actor always been listed as Mohinder's dad?

11/15/2006 6:14:26 PM

Quote :

"there is a really good shot of the old one during the beginning montage of the episode where claire starts in the morgue. just thought it was interesting"

Thanks, I took a snapshot of it. Check my previous post.

11/15/2006 6:22:26 PM

Ugh I wanna know how to screen cap from my .avis!

11/15/2006 7:01:49 PM

turn off video acceleration and printscreen like usual

but anyways, i think this was a casting snafu, nothing more

11/15/2006 8:17:52 PM

Maybe it shows that there's been at least two different printings of the book?

Maybe an updated one with a foreword by Dr. Bostian?

11/15/2006 8:27:37 PM

Rewatched Monday's episode and saw something I didn't catch the first time

when Bennet is telling eden to use her power, she resists at first. Then he said, "You're the easy way, and we both know the hard way" (when referring to making Issac naturally use his power)

I think this strongly ties Bennet's group in with Mohinder's Dad's book "Activating Evolution".

I don't think they are fully causing the powers, but they are helping to accelerate it to a natural level (parkman could barely pick out thoughts, and now he hears everyone; ted didn't notice much of a problem till he was captured)

...

bah, but I just realized they never got to Nathan and he seems to be doing fine with his power...

ah hell, who knows

11/15/2006 8:28:55 PM

Quote :

"when Bennet is telling eden to use her power, she resists at first. Then he said, "You're the easy way, and we both know the hard way""

I think Bennet just meant he'd tie him down or something and shoot him up against his will.

[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 8:41 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2006 8:30:50 PM

Quote :

"and we both know the hard way" (when referring to making Issac naturally use his power) "

uhhh, i think you totally missed the meaning of that statement. its more along the lines of:

Quote :

"I think Bennet just meant he'd tie him down or something and shoot him up against his will. "

11/16/2006 12:21:41 AM

Quote :

"but anyways, i think this was a casting snafu, nothing more"

yeah, i think so too...pretty big snafu though, I mean, why would you put a large photo of a character on something that is shown several times when you haven't cast the part. my guess is something happened and they had to switch actors, which is why i asked if the actor that is playing his father now was a recent addition. i.e a recent change or addition to some place like imdb

[Edited on November 16, 2006 at 1:25 AM. Reason : durr]

11/16/2006 1:24:16 AM

yeah, i thought the whole "doomsday clock" idea was pretty clever. I knew "7 minutes to midnight" sounded really familiar

11/16/2006 1:37:59 AM

shit, there was something I thought about when I was falling asleep that I wanted to share with you all but now that I'm awake I can't remember it...

11/16/2006 3:50:08 AM

^^^^ I honestly don't think so. But we'll see, I've been wrong MANY times before, lol

11/16/2006 11:01:14 AM

access hollywood sneak peak:
http://www.accesshollywood.com/accessvideo/

11/16/2006 6:32:23 PM

Just saw a preview for this weeks episode. Looks amazing.

11/16/2006 8:11:24 PM

ANYONE NOTICE THE "SAVE THE CHEERLEADER" AUDIO ON NBC?

i thought i was freaking out - they inserted it in between a Deal or No Deal and another commercial!
it's like subliminal audio advertising haha

11/16/2006 8:46:55 PM