jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
Time to go read about our football team to cheer myself up. 1/11/2011 10:55:01 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think Sid should have pulled Harrow, but dammit he wasn't the one out there missing bunnies all over the place in the 1st half. At one point we were shooting like 22% with most of those shots being fucking layups. 1/11/2011 10:55:04 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
well, hopefully we can pull of FSU. I'm convinced we can beat everyone but Duke, just gotta play decent. 1/11/2011 10:55:06 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Javi is a good defender" |
Uhhhhh...no1/11/2011 10:55:13 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
Javi is a fucking terrible defender! Where did this myth start that he doesn't just let his man blow by him every single time? 1/11/2011 10:55:13 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Ah well. Reggie jackson beat brown. If Howell had made that dunk instead of getting blocked, that could have been the turning point for the game.
Harrow needed to stay in the game.
[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 10:55 PM. Reason : .] 1/11/2011 10:55:32 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "unless BC hits another cold streak we'll probably end up falling short by single digits" |
1/11/2011 10:55:34 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
can't believe we lost a tough road game in the ACC
the mayan calendar must be right 1/11/2011 10:55:37 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no shot out of timeout" |
how many times have we heard this1/11/2011 10:55:46 PM |
stateredneck All American 2966 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Which is why we were 6 point underdogs??? Dumbfuck" |
Hey douche bag we make 2 foot shots and Javi isn't in school and we win by fifteen. So, delicately put, blow me.1/11/2011 10:55:57 PM |
appamali All American 4479 Posts user info edit post |
A team which cannot gather 1000 fans to come and watch their game beat us.... 1/11/2011 10:56:04 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
sucks we're 1-15 now. 1/11/2011 10:56:12 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Leslie's fine, Probably just rolled his ankle.
We could have gotten out to a big lead in the first half, we were getting every shot we wanted, they just weren't going down. 1/11/2011 10:56:17 PM |
Walter All American 7761 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.facebook.com/24hodge/posts/179503362080033
Quote : | "Julius Hodge
One sub completely killed our momentum.." |
1/11/2011 10:56:33 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
This was not a tough road game...seriously...how the fuck do you people not see all the things wrong with the game we just played? There were maybe 15-20 solid minutes of basketball, and the rest was shit. 1/11/2011 10:56:40 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
god damn our depth at PG is fucking terrible
Javi should never see the floor if we have a player the caliber of Harrow
seriously the difference between night and day 1/11/2011 10:56:46 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Well we just cemented Reggie Jackson as the ACC POW. 29 points 1/11/2011 10:56:57 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
I too wonder why people think Javi is a great defender. He gets the occassional steal every now and then, but 75% of the time he plays 8 feet away from his man and looks so lazy. I can't wait for his eligibility to be up. 1/11/2011 10:56:58 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Fans should not try to analyze games and prognosticate.
Fire all NC State fans. 1/11/2011 10:57:31 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Lowe actually ran a couple of good plays coming out of time outs, this game.
Brown got abused, and leslie let his man get open 3s and inbounds layups. They are definitely running offense better. 1/11/2011 10:57:37 PM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
PACK 15-6 to end 1st half BC 15-6 to end 2nd half 1/11/2011 10:58:20 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Haha I guess Hodge won't be hanging out with the team this summer
UNLESS..................... 1/11/2011 10:58:23 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He gets the occassional steal every now and then, but 75% of the time he plays 8 feet away from his man and looks so lazy. " |
That's the thing
He is too aggressive on D and when shit doesn't work, his guy is wide open. That, or he just watches the play going on and forgets to guard his man.1/11/2011 10:58:34 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Who else is gonna guard Jackson? Harrow???? Brown can't guard him all day. Javi is the 2nd best option, as bad as that sounds.
Quote : | "Javi should never see the floor if we have a player the caliber of Harrow" |
Yeah, because Harrow can play all 40 minutes. Maybe we should let Kufor give him a break.
[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 10:59 PM. Reason : ]1/11/2011 10:59:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This was not a tough road game" |
You're right, it was an easy road game, not a tough one
All conference games except Duke are easy, none are tough, not even all of them1/11/2011 10:59:35 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
We lost because BC made three 3s in a row down the stretch. Yeah our defense should have been tighter on those possessions, but rarely is a team going to knock down three straight at the end of the game. Hopefully the team will learn that they have to keep the intensity up for 30 minutes. We had these assholes, but oh well just the first in what will be at least three consecutive losses. 1/11/2011 10:59:40 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
If Javi is truly our 2nd best defensive option, I'm all for firing Sid yesterday.
Put Wood on him.. Cj Williams, Harrow....anyone else. Javi is absolutely terrible on D 1/11/2011 11:00:31 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You're right, it was an easy road game, not a tough one
All conference games except Duke are easy, none are tough, not even all of them" |
That was one tough crowd of like 2,000 that came and clapped at times!1/11/2011 11:01:07 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
anybody can hit open threes 1/11/2011 11:01:18 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
He'd blow by Wood and CJ ... and have you ever watched Harrow play defense? There was a reason we wouldn't let him near Jackson 1/11/2011 11:01:19 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
^^^we know how our fans feel about clapping...
[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:01 PM. Reason : k] 1/11/2011 11:01:22 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe leslie could have guarded Jackson with his length? We had no one who could keep up with him. 1/11/2011 11:01:26 PM |
stateredneck All American 2966 Posts user info edit post |
The game is 40 minutes long. Playing 30 minutes wouldn't do shit. 1/11/2011 11:01:37 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
lowe probably didnt bank on brown getting destroyed by jackson repeatedly and even as someone who's pretty much fed up with him I can't get on his case too much for that
but i knew the second i saw javi checking in that we were going to lose 1/11/2011 11:02:19 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He'd blow by Wood and CJ " |
So you think Javi is a better defender than Wood?
Not even close
[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:03 PM. Reason : ]1/11/2011 11:02:32 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Those BC 3s are definitely on our guys. Wide open. I believe leslie was either screened out of the play our playing off by a ridiculous amount on 2 of them. Javi fucked up on the other one.
Javi's mistakes are inexcusable. 1/11/2011 11:03:18 PM |
stateredneck All American 2966 Posts user info edit post |
It is just that he has been making the same mistakes for four years. 1/11/2011 11:04:44 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^That's my thoughts:
Javi and Harrow are both horrible on defense
At least Harrow might learn something and is young. He also gives a scoring threat Javi's been playing the ole' defense for 4 years now and he can't penetrate to save his life. Put in Harrow
I honestly think the defense between Javi and Harrow isn't that much different. Javi has never understood that his player is allowed to move without teh ball
[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:07 PM. Reason : ] 1/11/2011 11:06:13 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So you think Javi is a better defender than Wood?" |
He's a 3. He was guarding 6'6 Raji most of the game IIRC. If you put Wood on Jackson, do you put Harrow on Raji??1/11/2011 11:06:34 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah, because Harrow can play all 40 minutes. Maybe we should let Kufor give him a break." |
maybe you should read the rest of my post and stop taking shit out of context
[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:08 PM. Reason : I readily admitted our depth was the problem. don't be a shit head.]1/11/2011 11:07:32 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He's a 3. He was guarding 6'6 Raji most of the game IIRC. If you put Wood on Jackson, do you put Harrow on Raji?? " |
NOT JAVI FOR GODS SAKE1/11/2011 11:08:16 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
harrow is going to be a liability on defense as long as he's here. we're going to have to learn to deal with it eventually 1/11/2011 11:09:09 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Which is why we were 6 point underdogs??? Dumbfuck"" |
It's ok guyz! We wur sposed to lose!!!1/11/2011 11:09:18 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
The bottom line is that in the 1st half if the players could hit a damn layup like they were taught to do as kids, then we would have won the game. These are 4 and 5 star players. It's not Lowe's job to teach them the basics like layups. That's on the players. His job is to call and design plays for them to get open and point blank looks. He did his job, the players didn't do what they are supposed to do. 1/11/2011 11:09:22 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I don't think so. I mean, you can be taught defense.
With that said, I have never seen a Lowe coached team that excelled on defense, so I don't know how much defensive teaching is going on....but a freshman is expected to be bad at defense
[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:10 PM. Reason : ] 1/11/2011 11:10:15 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
We were pretty good at defense at the end of last year. We had a bunch of games where we held our opponents under 60 points. 1/11/2011 11:11:59 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
God, not with the "well if we would have just hit x, y, or z shots, we would have won!!" already.
We took a ton of terrible shots early on. Then once shots started falling, we go back to running our slow ass sets at fucking practice speed. Am I seriously the only one who sees this? I think if I go back and watch the game, I probably wouldn't find more than 5 screens that slowed the D. All the defender has to do is actually run instead of jog around the screen, and they've met back up with him on the other side. Then no one took any of the few mismatches that showed up. Instead, more standing around.
Bottom line is that it's just more NC State shit.
[Edited on January 11, 2011 at 11:16 PM. Reason : -] 1/11/2011 11:14:33 PM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
i thought we had some pretty good shots early and just missed them.
we did take a few ill advised shots, but for the most part i think we were just cold. 1/11/2011 11:15:08 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
ugh just makes me sick 1/11/2011 11:15:25 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We took a ton of terrible shots early on." |
Man that is so wrong1/11/2011 11:15:30 PM |