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"However I effing hate social justice warriors and believe they should be put in ovens like the Jews. "

What in the actual fuck?

6/5/2016 7:13:25 PM

That JUST happened

6/5/2016 8:21:24 PM

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"unnuanced thinkers like JCE that it's really white males that are aggrieved in this country. "

A strawman argument? But your "racist gay dumb neckbeard" argument was so effective!

6/6/2016 1:08:16 AM

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"You SJWs calling someone a "racist" just because they called a 'subset of illegal immigrants rapists' is exactly why Trump is so popular."

and you have the balls to throw around big words like "strawman"

6/6/2016 2:45:34 PM

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-06/trump-orders-surrogates-to-intensify-criticism-of-judge-and-journalists

This recent story is shining a light on just how disorganized Trump's team is internally, and how rattled Trump is by the public scrutiny of Trump U. "Better markets" on the presidential election have this hurting Trump, we'll have to wait and see what polls actually are showing.

On a related note, just saw my first neighbor get their Trump bumper sticker on their car.

6/6/2016 6:15:18 PM

Ha, a journalist supposedly got this message from Trump:

https://twitter.com/CapehartJ/status/739943706913087488

[Edited on June 6, 2016 at 6:23 PM. Reason : ]

6/6/2016 6:22:16 PM

Best potential world leader ever

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisElection/videos/vb.908009612563863/1194576057240549

6/7/2016 9:39:55 PM

"He's not Mexican, he's from Indiana" - and just happens to be a member of La Raza.

6/7/2016 11:05:46 PM

https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/06/07/no-conservative-media-s-not-what-la-raza-means-spanish/210786

sad!

6/7/2016 11:08:10 PM

There is a La Raza that is a... not so well intentioned group.

Unfortunately for Trumpets the judge isn't a part of THAT group. Not that anything close to reality matters to his supporters.

6/8/2016 8:03:14 AM

If anyone is listening to the radio between 3 and 5 around Raleigh, you should tune in to Hannity. It is quite hilarious how he is trying to deflect for Trump regarding the "mexican" judge and Trump U.

He did say something about some for-profit university that the Clintons are involved with, and there's something there, but come on. Trump U was obviously akin to a Phoenix U type fraud.

Regarding the Clintons, the only reason I say something is there is because Hillary used her position as SoS to promote the university. She admitted that it was a for-profit school, but she used her influence as SoS to get the university recognition at some federal event.

But Hannity is pretty funny in his defense of Trump.

And Paul Ryan just ended his career. "I still support Trump, even though he said those racist things."

6/8/2016 9:16:36 AM

you read into that accusation at all?

6/8/2016 11:23:58 AM

I don't know anything about it but pretty obvious he told his surrogates to deflect towards it. That Kayleigh girl on CNN and Lord were all about bringing it up yesterday..

6/8/2016 11:38:56 AM

For either of these candidates, regardless of who said it, I'm going to look into it a little bit.

Look, I'm not accusing the Clintons of anything here other than trying to make money. But based on what he said, it is an established fact that she sent out emails as SoS requesting that that for-profit university be included in the list of colleges represented at whatever federal function this was.

Outside of that, I don't really care. To me they are both horrible candidates who have both done horrible things, leading up to a horrible primary, and horrible general election cycle, and ultimately a horrible presidency for the next four years.

I'm not trying to make Trump look any better, or Clinton any worse. Just saying...glass houses, throwing stones, etc.

6/8/2016 11:50:52 AM

probably not a great idea to take anything Sean Hannity says as fact

especially without reading into whatever he says

6/8/2016 11:55:09 AM

When they are openly endorsing a racist for president, i'm not sure any republican figure's statements can be viewed as credible anymore.

6/8/2016 12:15:47 PM

Kid Frost > mediamatters.org

6/8/2016 9:37:43 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Trump just took a big dive in polls, but interestingly, not entirely yielding to Clinton. Looks like GOP voters might either abstain or go 3rd party.

2 big shocks left for Clinton are the convention bump and the email server investigation completion.

6/9/2016 9:37:05 PM

http://gawker.com/hundreds-say-donald-trump-has-a-problem-paying-his-bill-1781713575

6/10/2016 12:12:51 AM

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""There is only so much dogshit to choke down.” The canine excreta remark was from delegate A.J. Spiker, past chairman of the Iowa Republican party and former advisor to the Rand Paul presidential campaign."

http://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-delegates-eyeing-an-escape-from-trump-there-is-only-so-much-dog-sht-to-choke-down/

6/10/2016 1:36:58 AM

so trump just said he wants to use all of the refugee money to instead focus on our inner cities.

/pivoting

6/10/2016 1:51:19 PM

half of all public school children are considered low income, I'm not sure funds designed to resettle just a few thousands of people would do jack shit.

It does have a nice ring to it though, which will appease the trumpsters.

6/10/2016 6:31:07 PM

well if hillary says shes gonna attack child poverty, trump can too. neither are going to do shit..

6/10/2016 6:57:15 PM

Lol, does his staff vet anything he says?

"They have this massive soccer tournament. They don't know whether or not they can hold it,"Trump says of Euro 2016, which has already begun

6/11/2016 12:08:15 PM

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"Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!"

he's a horrible fucking person and anyone who supports him is as well

6/12/2016 1:51:32 PM

hes got florida now

6/12/2016 4:26:23 PM

There's a pretty good chance he's got the Presidency now. The fact that Obama mealy mouthed his way through the press conference without mentioning Islam, radicalization, or ISIS and yet was able to talk about how it's too easy to get a gun is incredible.

Everything about this helps Trump. There will be blame for the current administration because the FBI had him o a list but didn't do anything, Hillary playing as part 2 of the Obama administration will get some secondary heat as well.

He's still utterly unqualified and shouldn't be president, but this is exactly the kind of thing that could propel him to a win.

6/12/2016 6:37:59 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-obama-does-not-refer-to-radical-islamic-terrorism-203120388.html

and you've got to be pretty fucking careful when making remarks on a situation like this. it's still in the beginning of the investigation. of course he's not going to mention ISIS.

[Edited on June 12, 2016 at 6:58 PM. Reason : .]

6/12/2016 6:56:39 PM

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"There's a pretty good chance he's got the Presidency now. The fact that Obama mealy mouthed his way through the press conference without mentioning Islam, radicalization, or ISIS and yet was able to talk about how it's too easy to get a gun is incredible. Everything about this helps Trump. There will be blame for the current administration because the FBI had him o a list but didn't do anything, Hillary playing as part 2 of the Obama administration will get some secondary heat as well. He's still utterly unqualified and shouldn't be president, but this is exactly the kind of thing that could propel him to a win."

Nah, Clinton has this thing wrapped up. She's going to get the nomination for the Democrats and easily win it. I heard that over half the voters in America side with the democrats. I don't think we'll get another republican president in office for a while. It's only a matter of time before we get someone like Bernie Sanders in office who is a socialist and wants the government involved in everything.

6/12/2016 8:16:30 PM

I too think Hillary will win because of the whole "historic" thing. The unwashed masses wanted to see the first female president, next go round we'll have to vote for the first "asian/latino/lgbt" or whatnot. I'm saying this not as a critique of the current president who I personally feel has done what he feels is the right thing but as a person who's thinking the whole presidency has become about nothing more than a marketing event every 4 years.... which may lead to trump surprising us.

got to admit he's already go the cool shirt.

6/12/2016 9:37:10 PM

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"There's a pretty good chance he's got the Presidency now. The fact that Obama mealy mouthed his way through the press conference without mentioning Islam, radicalization, or ISIS and yet was able to talk about how it's too easy to get a gun is incredible. Everything about this helps Trump. There will be blame for the current administration because the FBI had him o a list but didn't do anything, Hillary playing as part 2 of the Obama administration will get some secondary heat as well. He's still utterly unqualified and shouldn't be president, but this is exactly the kind of thing that could propel him to a win."

I'm not so sure, this seems to be hurting trump from what I see on Facebook. People who don't normally post political stuff are now posting never trump, the dumber conservatives haven't brought up the Muslim angle and are pushing unity, a hyper Liberal posted a meme defending gun owners and Muslims. The 1 ardent trump supporter posted trumps tweet, which was really dumb and blatantly non factual (since the Orlando shooter was American, and the la attempted bomber was white American), which shut down discussion on the thread pretty effectively.

There's plenty of time for Clinton to screw up and trump to recover, but the initial reaction has been the best case scenario for Clinton so far, from what I can see.

The critical factor seems to ironically be gun rights. "Traditional" conservatives seem to be buying the idea we can't demonize all Muslims because of the minute number is Isis sympathizes, and using this to bolster the idea that we can't punish all gun owners because of the actions of a tiny few.

6/12/2016 10:25:18 PM

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"and you've got to be pretty fucking careful when making remarks on a situation like this. it's still in the beginning of the investigation. of course he's not going to mention ISIS. "

That's BS - Obama had no problem opening his big mouth before all of the facts came out in the Micheal Brown case. The guy called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS. You know a copy of that phone call was on Obama's desk the minute this went public.

Regardless of whether Obama was wrong or right not to mention ISIS or radical Islam, Trump will make this into a big deal, as will the talking heads, and I think it may take a few days, and a well prepared speech by Trump, and we'll see his numbers rise.

6/12/2016 10:37:35 PM

We'll see. It's going to be an interesting political reaction. I've seen mountains of stupid across the board. The early reaction from the left wing was pretty disgusting. They were all over Trump, blaming conservatives for demonizing LGBTQ people, this was Latin night at this club apparently so they were all convinced this was going to be a white, anti Mexican, pro Trump shooter.

As soon as it wasn't they jumped to the "well look how bad guns are" angle. Now that they were legally purchased guns, the guys had passed backrground checks before, and this guy was on FBI terror watchlists I'm not sure how they spin this as anything but an intelligence failure. Refusing to acknowledge the Islamic roots of this particular act isn't doing Hillary and favors and will give credence to the idea that, because of fear over being labeled Islamaphobic or upsetting our nominal allies like Saudi Arabia, our politicians won't even admit that radical islam is a threat. Saying ISIS isn't Islamic is idiotic, saying this guy wasn't a real muslim (which I'm sure is coming from politicians soon and has come from a CAIR spokesman already) doesn't make it so. Sorry, but ISIS is islamic, The Westboro baptist church is christian. Neither are mainstream, but one has a hell of a lot more support and acceptance than the other through.

Trump and his supporters could certainly overplay this, and he may have a bit already, but I suspect this will win him Florida and that alone could mean the election.

The middle east is a complicated mess, but to downplay the importance of Islam in why it's a mess is just not rational.

6/12/2016 10:37:47 PM

Yeah it's early yet.

It probably helps that Obama has been trying to get the terror watch list used to stop gun sales to people and Omar bought 2 guns this week. There's republicans on video opposing this (maybe trump too?) and this is going to hurt them, because unlike islamophobic sentiments, this could have actually had an impact.

6/12/2016 10:48:54 PM

I oppose it. A lot of pro civil liberties democrats oppose it.

The no fly list and watchlists are arbitrary and prone to error. You can't curtail legal purchases because someone is placed on a list. He purchased the guns legally and presumably had to fill out all the accompanying paperwork and provide identifying information. Not sure what additional laws people would want aside from an outright ban. http://www.goodgamehunting.com/where-does-your-information-go-when-you-buy-a-gun-in-the-us/

If local law enforcement, the ATF, and the FBI weren't communicating then it's an intelligence failure. One would think that it would be legal and valid for someone currently or previously on a terror watchlist to flag upon purchase of a weapon, or say a large quantity of fertilizer. You could then inform local law enforcement that a known potential terrorist had just purchased weapons, you could probably put together enough evidence to justify temporary surveillance. Lord knows FISA courts have allowed surveillance with less to go on. If this is not currently legal it might be something upon which both sides of the gun argument could agree. Simply being on a list is not reason in and of itself a good reason to deny sale, but purchase of a firearm could flag and be used to justify scrutiny provided some additional supporting reason. It's at least something they could look at as a possible adjustment to current law.

Again, this looks a lot like an intelligence failure to me. I think the casting of such a broad net (bulk data collection, mass spying) and the lack of transparency and communication between local, state, federal, and intra-federal agencies could be a large part of why this wasn't prevented. Not sure it could have even with perfect communication, but it seems like data and resources aren't being used wisely.

6/12/2016 11:08:46 PM

^ I agree about the watch list thing, I don't think it would be legally viable in its current form, I'm just saying it should theoretically play well with the masses.

But I can't see how you can say this is an intelligence failure beyond that. This guy worked as private security, has a long history of using guns, there no reason 2 modest gun purchases would stick out versus all the other nuts they're probably tracking.

Having the watchlist procedurally stall a gun purchase for a week or 2 or longer until some staffer can read his emails or whatever could have mattered.

6/12/2016 11:20:40 PM

Pretty good chance they're already reading his emails. I'm sure we'll never hear about it one way or the other, but given all the data collection happening now it seems likely that this should have set off some red flags if there was good data sharing. Also, looks like these might have been his first and only gun purchases.

I mean, do we think the nsa isn't collecting all data from everyone who has ever appeared on any kind of watch list? The challenge of big data is in making it useful, sortable, searchable. Our intelligence community is notorious for not communicating and sharing. They're better than say, the Belgian authorities but they aren't great at it compared to an average largish corporation.

6/12/2016 11:36:25 PM

are you saying we should privitize it

6/12/2016 11:38:12 PM

No, I'm suggesting we have too much agency overlap and partly because if this a lack of cooperation between agencies. It's partly technical, but it's also partly cultural within the intelligence and law enforcement communities.

6/12/2016 11:43:31 PM

Speaking of overplaying your hand. The implication here is ..... wow.

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""Look, we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind," Trump said in a lengthy interview on Fox News early Monday morning. "And the something else in mind -- you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on." In that same interview, Trump was asked to explain why he called for Obama to resign in light of the shooting and he answered, in part: "He doesn't get it or he gets it better than anybody understands -- it's one or the other and either one is unacceptable.""

Not sure how this helps Trump given Obama's approval ratings to be honest.

6/13/2016 10:10:11 AM

he's touched on all the right things to energize his base

6/13/2016 10:19:12 AM

Maybe but from a purely political standpoint is that enough to grow it? Not so sure.

Can't imagine many independents who weren't already 100% committed to him are keen on the not so subtle implication that Obama is purposefully allowing major terrorist attacks..

6/13/2016 10:21:19 AM

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"That's BS - Obama had no problem opening his big mouth before all of the facts came out in the Micheal Brown case. The guy called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS. You know a copy of that phone call was on Obama's desk the minute this went public. "

link?

and big mouth? seriously?

6/13/2016 10:21:28 AM

it doesn't matter that this guy made a pledge to ISIS if there is no connection (which there probably isn't)

Having the American president acknowledge ISIS and give them credit for this would just be empowering them and playing into their propaganda, it would make ISIS seem more powerful than they are

6/13/2016 10:26:45 AM

This guy is exactly what the FBI, NSA and DHS fears - a lone wolf with no actual ties to any terrorist groups. These types of attacks will be the way of the future for terrorists. I don't think we'll ever see a highly organized, multi-person attack in this country again.

6/13/2016 10:34:24 AM

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"it doesn't matter that this guy made a pledge to ISIS if there is no connection (which there probably isn't) Having the American president acknowledge ISIS and give them credit for this would just be empowering them and playing into their propaganda, it would make ISIS seem more powerful than they are"

He's not equipped for critical thinking. Only, OBAMA BAD! OBAMA BAD!

6/13/2016 10:37:20 AM

and apparently can't acknowledge when he's wrong

6/13/2016 10:38:22 AM

I bet Trump won't make one mention of the white guy caught going to the LA Pride parade with 3 assault rifles and explosives.

6/13/2016 2:35:51 PM

^I think that guy was a Bernie supporter. So maybe.

This is the best thing that could happen to Trump. I thought his campaign was sunk after the blowback from his Mexican Judge gaff. But this is probably his strongest issue.

6/13/2016 3:39:09 PM

forced Clinton to clarify that this was radical islam

6/13/2016 4:10:59 PM