LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^Surprising, read he was a Tennessee lean most of his recruitment.
Calhoun is a track scholarship for now, if he makes the team and doesn't redshirt this year, he'll count towards football, but no way he plays this year. Basically we get a scholarship-free redshirt year for the kid to see if he's good enough to actually warrant taking up a scholarship spot on the team. If he's not we tell him no thanks and let him stick to track, if he is good enough then he eats up a scholarship that he earned.
It's like a football internship. 5/14/2014 8:19:57 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
if he makes the team, he would immediately be counted as a FB scholarship, regardless of if he redshirts. no free year of practicing with the team.
Quote : | "15.5.9 Multisport Participants. 15.5.9.1 Football. [FBS/FCS] In football, a counter who was recruited (per Bylaw 15.02.8) and/or offered financial aid to participate in football and who participates (practices or competes) in football and one or more sports (including basketball) shall be counted in football. A counter who was not recruited (per Bylaw 15.02.8) and/or offered financial aid to participate in football and who competes in football and one or more sports (including basketball) shall be counted in football" | ]5/14/2014 9:05:03 AM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah but that's if he "competes" in football. Does that mean it only counts if he sees game action? If so, I would think he'd be able to "redshirt" scholly-free. But I don't know much about these rules, so I'm just speculating. 5/14/2014 12:45:19 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^Yeah I took "compete" to mean at least made the active-roster. 5/14/2014 12:48:15 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I think it only counts if he is actually "competitive". Which means the big positive we got out of last year was that no one used a scholarship. 5/14/2014 1:40:07 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
5/14/2014 1:49:56 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
here yall read the rulebook and figure it out.
http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D114.pdf 5/14/2014 3:42:29 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
We got a verbal from South Carolina Athlete Freddie Phillips this morning 5/20/2014 4:17:32 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
played WR in High School.
Had interest from some decent SEC teams.
Not a bad pickup, chances are we will move him to defense. 5/20/2014 8:21:43 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
He's our one commit at S for this year. We actually had to turn down a commitment from 3* S Jarius Morehead because we were only taking 1 S in this class and the staff knew Phillips planned on committing to us and Morehead was just trying to commit before the spot got filled.
Think we're done at WR and S unless some big-time recruit all of a sudden wants to commit to us. 5/21/2014 8:25:43 AM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah from what I've read it sounds like the staff is trying to fill a few needs and then go after the best player available at a few positions. We can't take too many this year with how big the 2014 class was - tons of freshmen and sophomores on next year's team. 5/21/2014 10:47:10 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
That's not encouraging at all.
I am not very familiar with our depth chart, because none of the players are worth knowing at this point, but if we are playing a lot of underclassman next year, there is no way we can contend for the conference championship. And with our inability to recruit a top 10 QB, there is no way we will be contending in 3-4 years. 5/21/2014 12:53:53 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And with our inability to recruit a top 10 QB" |
Yeah...its a shame we can't get those top 10 QBs like Wilson and Rivers every year...5/21/2014 12:58:20 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Was referring to our current coaching staff. They have not shown any ability to land a highly rated QB, and it is apparent that they can't coach up a mid-level rated QB.
We are going to need a QB better than Rivers or Wilson if we want to be successful. 5/21/2014 1:02:29 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^^So what you're saying is there's no point in having a team and you're going to stop following them?
Quote : | "And with our inability to recruit a top 10 QB" |
This is funny.
[Edited on May 21, 2014 at 1:03 PM. Reason : ^this guy]5/21/2014 1:02:59 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We are going to need a QB better than Rivers or Wilson if we want to be successful. " |
holy fuckin sheeetttt5/21/2014 1:06:41 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "o what you're saying is there's no point in having a team and you're going to stop following them?" |
Competing priorities, my man. No reason to invest in a shitty product.
Sorry, did we sign a top 10 recruit? I was unaware.
Quote : | "holy fuckin sheeetttt" |
I know. It's a sad realization. Hopefully Debbie realizes this soon and hires a coaching staff that doesn't need to rely on top 10 recruiting classes in order to be successful.
[Edited on May 21, 2014 at 1:11 PM. Reason : 1]5/21/2014 1:10:18 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
This guy is funny.
[Edited on May 21, 2014 at 1:12 PM. Reason : if you're going to troll, at least do it in the credibility thread] 5/21/2014 1:11:06 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's not encouraging at all.
I am not very familiar with our depth chart, because none of the players are worth knowing at this point, but if we are playing a lot of underclassman next year, there is no way we can contend for the conference championship. And with our inability to recruit a top 10 QB, there is no way we will be contending in 3-4 years." |
Translation:
I don't know shit about our team, because I haven't heard of any of them on TV, but I also don't give any credit to our coaching staff for developing our young players who may have been overlooked, and have thus given up on this team. And despite our program recruiting three QBs currently in the NFL and having yet to give Brissett a shot, I have therefore surmised from this wealth of data that we don't have a chance for YEARS.5/21/2014 2:50:56 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know shit about our team because they can't win a fucking conference game. I don't give credit to our coaching staff because they cant win a fucking conference game. I have given up on this team because they cant win a fucking conference game.
If you have time to spend with this shit, good for you. Most fans dont.
My point is that, if we have a bunch of underclassmen playing important roles over the next few years, we would expect the development to pay off in years 3 and 4. The same time that we would be breaking in a new QB, which comes with a steep learning curve, even with a great QB like Glennon, which we dont have. 5/21/2014 3:09:00 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
you really come off as a front-running douche 5/21/2014 3:38:26 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Ribs stole my post 5/21/2014 3:47:20 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "d it is apparent that they can't coach up a mid-level rated QB. " |
It is?5/21/2014 7:30:53 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And with our inability to recruit a top 10 QB" |
Brissett was rated as the #9 QB in the 2011 class. Just sayin
[Edited on May 21, 2014 at 9:23 PM. Reason : ]5/21/2014 9:19:44 PM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
Lol top 10 QB
What college do you think you are following? Alabama? LSU? Ohio State? Michigan? FSU? It's reality check time dude
I love all the assumptions about what our coaches can and cannot do after one season with patchwork leftovers from TOB. Fucking idiots
[Edited on May 22, 2014 at 9:22 AM. Reason : .] 5/22/2014 9:21:00 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Welcome to TWW and the general population of the NCSU fanbase. Delusion at it's absolute best.
[Edited on May 22, 2014 at 9:32 AM. Reason : .] 5/22/2014 9:28:38 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
^^Exactly. We had no experienced talent on the team last year. There's a reason we only had one player get drafted last year, and it wasn't until the 4th round. Let's give these guys a couple more years at least before we say they can't develop talent. 5/22/2014 9:48:13 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Stop asking people to be reasonable. 5/22/2014 9:49:01 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I've never understood how any NC State fan hasnt grasped the reality of being a fan. Assume we are going to lose every single game, in some ridiculous or crushing fashion, and when we occasionally win just be happy we won a game.
Life will be much easier I promise. 5/22/2014 9:49:34 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on May 22, 2014 at 10:10 AM. Reason : d]
5/22/2014 10:08:50 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^that's a defeatist attitude! how will we ever get better if you don't do your duty as a fan and bitch and moan about the team and the first-year coach, especially on the internet? that's what real fans do. 5/22/2014 10:10:23 AM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
I'm encouraged by the delusional fans and their sinking attitudes. Means better season tickets will be available once the ship starts getting turned around. 5/22/2014 10:33:33 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Apparently 2015 DT Shy Tuttle is regarded by some sites as the #1 player in NC
5/30/2014 11:30:10 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Another preferred walk-on http://www.citizen-times.com/story/hshuddle/2014/05/30/kuder-to-nc-state/9765283/ 5/30/2014 3:25:18 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27851 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Rams plan to hold a signing ceremony for the 6-foot-6, 260-pound lineman next week at the high school." |
LOL what's he gonna sign?5/30/2014 3:27:05 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Missed on Kendall Hinton. Another miss on a QB, this time to that powerhouse known as Wake Forest. Maybe we can find a preferred walk-on. We seem to be doing good with those. 6/11/2014 6:51:07 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Wake Forest = BALLERZ 6/11/2014 7:01:20 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
They won an ACC championship just eight short years ago. 6/11/2014 9:30:22 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
That didn't take long, QB Austin King committed: http://sports.yahoo.com/ncstate/football/recruiting/player-Austin-King-138791 6/11/2014 9:57:56 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Austin King, "dual threat" qb.. 6'2, 190, 3*, etc signed for next year
@austinking_10: Excited and honored to be a part of the North Carolina State family!! GO PACK BABY!! #CODERED #PACK15 http://t.co/Un07D4D1Hu
[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 9:59 PM. Reason : I was busy copying things ] 6/11/2014 9:59:08 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
it really makes you wonder: Did that other qb prospect officially commit to powerhouse WF because Doeren&Co already got a commitment from their class-of-2015 qb Austin King from Georgia?
[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 10:25 PM. Reason : supposedly an offer from Harvard too] 6/11/2014 10:21:43 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
^pretty sure it was the other way around, the staff really wanted Hinton. 6/11/2014 10:55:31 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Honestly, it seemed like Hinton just didn't want to come to NC State. Remember that Duke was his leader before they backed off and went another direction. Only then did NC State seem like a real player for Hinton. Then Wake's new staff comes in and offers him a shot to start right away and bam...Wake Forest commitment.
We just offered King yesterday, after the Hinton commitment to Wake...so I don't think the staff chose Hinton on the spot. Hearing about King's performances at the Elite 11 Combines...it doesn't sound like hes any slouch though. I expect he'll come in hoping to compete with McClendon in a couple years.
Honestly though, I don't care about this years QB class. We weren't gonna get a stud to come in here and sit behind Jacoby for a year and then have to battle McClendon for two more years. The 2016 class is full of studs though. Could be 3 QB's in NC alone that are 4*'s. 6/12/2014 6:19:07 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I think Hinton wanted a better chance to start right away, and Wake could make more "promises" for him than we could.
No way Hinton would come in and start over returning senior Brissett right away, and we have 4* McClendon sitting there behind him ready to go. Always thought this year would be a hard sale to a highly rated QB, but because of our depth we really have to sign at least 1(though moving the Sheriff back to QB will help #'s).
The coaches have already started working on those top 3 QBs in NC next year, and we'll be able to offer more opportunities as they'll come in with no returning starter(barring McClendon just killing it and taking the job from Brissett) and a legit chance to compete for the starting job right out of the gate(with King and McClendon). 6/12/2014 8:10:13 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Alabama...Wake Forest...Liberty recruiting
6/12/2014 9:29:20 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I'm in the camp that says getting a major QB in this class wasn't necessary, but there is the added disappointment of the domino effect. He's a local QB with ties to a lot of our other prospects. There were thoughts that his commitment could have started off a string of other guys committing in the next couple weeks.
Hopefully that won't be the case and we'll still get our top targets. 6/12/2014 9:40:30 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
looks to small 6/12/2014 10:10:26 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Ht:6'2" Wt:192 lbs
That's not small...
This guy got offers from Harvard and Yale. I assume he's a smart kid and fairly humble (based on his twitter posts). I'm good with this. Welcome to the Pack.
RW was a 2 star recruit...
https://rivals.yahoo.com/ncstate/football/recruiting/player-Russell-Wilson-45472;_ylt=AsLc5_EAWKD6UkyqRoVh0dQ4s5B4
5'11 - 180lbs
[Edited on June 12, 2014 at 10:19 AM. Reason : .] 6/12/2014 10:12:50 AM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
I'm talking arm strength. Looks like Daniel Evans all over again.
And yes - that is small.
[Edited on June 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM. Reason : ] 6/12/2014 10:15:03 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
and you came to this conclusion...how? 6/12/2014 10:15:30 AM |