^doofus? is this middle school?

its still is sketchy that transfer was same day as a pallet of cash showed up

8/3/2016 9:19:02 PM

would you prefer big dummy?

or tinfoil hat wearing partisan hack?

[Edited on August 4, 2016 at 12:09 AM. Reason : help me help you here]

8/4/2016 12:09:15 AM

The people criticising this and people who idolize Reagan probably have a huge ironic overlap

8/4/2016 9:47:30 AM

Happy Birthday B-Rock!! We are gonna miss you

8/4/2016 11:28:32 AM

Quote :

"The people criticising this and people who idolize Reagan probably have a huge ironic overlap"

Conversely, the people who are ok with this and the people who would criticize a R POTUS for the same thing probably have a huge ironic overlap.

8/4/2016 12:58:56 PM

your argument is that liberals would be against a iran nuclear deal if it was negotiated by a republican?

8/4/2016 1:09:43 PM

My argument is that liberals who are OK with this are clear hypocrites.

8/4/2016 1:19:05 PM

you implied that it would be a large overlap, i don't think it would

on the other hand though, reagan has widespread support among the right and the criticism about this is mostly from the right

8/4/2016 1:45:33 PM

Quote :

"hostage Saeed Abidini: I just remember the night at the airport sitting for hours and hours there and I asked police— why you not letting us go — And he told me we are waiting for another plane and if that plane take off we gonna let you go. Trish Regan: You slept there at the airport? Abidini: Yes, for a night. They told us you going to be there for 20 minutes but it took hours and hours. And I ask them why you don’t let us go, because the — was there, pilot was there, everyone was there to leave the country. And he said we are waiting for another plane so if that plane doesn’t come we never let us go."

https://youtu.be/vpIQ0N-j7bg

[Edited on August 5, 2016 at 7:49 AM. Reason : e]

8/5/2016 7:46:49 AM

FWIW

http://gopthedailydose.com/2016/08/05/proof-obama-lied-us-iranian-hostage-abedini-says-iran-held-plane-tarmac-ransom-plane-arrived-video/

8/5/2016 10:09:34 AM

basically they did that trick where since scalping tickets is illegal in NC you sell a Duke drink koozie for $800 that has 2 free Duke/unc mens basketball tickets in it

8/5/2016 11:13:52 AM

8/5/2016 11:17:27 AM

ahahaha

8/5/2016 11:26:53 AM

ahahaha, of course beatsunc believes this story too

8/5/2016 3:08:05 PM

Quote :

"My FB friend: I'm intrigued as to why a simple yes or no have dropped out of the vocabulary of many of those in politics. They are among the first words we learn as babies!"

https://www.facebook.com/FoxBusiness/videos/10154402699325238/

So I suppose the answer was a resolute NO, because had it been a YES, he would said it.

8/8/2016 6:48:11 AM

if the hostage holder thinks that its ransom then it is. dont need both parties to agree to make it so

8/8/2016 10:28:53 AM

Did IQs around here actually drop over the last 8 years? Someone explain to me how paying back a debt is ransom under any possible circumstance. Words matter folks. The only part of this you could possibly claim was a "ransom" is the timing. In which case, who cares how Iran propagandized a totally one sided outcome for American negotiators? We completed a deal that stripped Iran of its industrial nuclear infrastructure, negotiated a debt payment well below what Iran was actually asking for, and got back a bunch of hostages in return for literally nothing of substance. That's a win, win, win. You want to know what a ransom payment looks like? Look no further than the billions of dollars worth of weapons Reagan sent to Iran to end that hostage crisis.

Furthermore, the entire concept of "US doesn't pay ransom" is a farce. Of course we pay ransoms, we've done it time, and time, and time again over hundreds of years. Granted, it's always more complicated than simple quid pro quo, which is how we can continue claiming that we don't pay ransoms.

[Edited on August 8, 2016 at 10:54 AM. Reason : .]

8/8/2016 10:49:01 AM

You're arguing with people whose ideas for dealing with Iran begin and end with sanctions now, sanctions tomorrow, sanctions forever.

8/8/2016 11:17:02 AM

Quote :

"In which case, who cares how Iran propagandized a totally one sided outcome for American negotiators? "

This is the same logic as Hillary asking "What difference does it make" regarding the Benghazi terror attacks.

8/8/2016 12:55:07 PM

be careful, they may actually agree with that statement

8/10/2016 5:37:10 PM

Can we talk for a second about Obama's god tier summer playlist?





You can find it on Spotify and Google Play, probably others.

8/12/2016 11:29:15 AM

it's a fine playlist, but nowhere near god tier

8/12/2016 11:32:30 AM

Obama should spend less time curating playlists and more time FIXING IT

8/12/2016 11:33:16 AM

Man, I'd love to kick it and smoke a fat J while listening to Obama's playlist

OH FUCKING WAIT, I CANT, BECAUSE OUR WEED SMOKING PRESIDENT, WHO CONSTANTLY BITCHES ABOUT HOW THE DRUG WAR HAS RIPPED APART COMMUNITIES REFUSES TO APPOINT A GOD DAMN DEA ADMINISTRATOR WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF DRUGS THAT IS BASED IN REALITY.

He is such a bitch ass coward. Deschedule already.

8/12/2016 5:19:05 PM

Quote :

"Words matter folks."

Except when they're in legislation. Or the Constitution. Then we do our damnedest to ignore them

Also, I agree with your actual point. Calling that shit a "ransom" is silly. Was the timing bad? Sure. But it wasn't a damned ransom.

8/12/2016 7:25:53 PM

Damn, all the insurers are dropping Obamacare. What a failure. Sad!

Quote :

"Aetna to Narrow Individual Public Exchange Participation in light of a second-quarter pretax loss of $200 million and total pretax losses of more than $430 million since January 2014 in our individual products, we have decided to reduce our individual public exchange presence in 2017, which will limit our financial exposure moving forward."

8/15/2016 10:40:52 PM

Quote :

"Man, I'd love to kick it and smoke a fat J while listening to Obama's playlist OH FUCKING WAIT, I CANT, BECAUSE OUR WEED SMOKING PRESIDENT, WHO CONSTANTLY BITCHES ABOUT HOW THE DRUG WAR HAS RIPPED APART COMMUNITIES REFUSES TO APPOINT A GOD DAMN DEA ADMINISTRATOR WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF DRUGS THAT IS BASED IN REALITY. He is such a bitch ass coward. Deschedule already."

DEA says they can't reschedule because the FDA doesn't recognize any medical uses. FDA says they can't recognize any medical uses because it's hard to research Schedule I substances. Gubmint at its finest.

8/15/2016 10:46:56 PM

and of course feds have no authority to ban a plant especially if the plant doesn't cross state lines.

8/16/2016 8:00:17 AM

I love when supporters of big govt get passed about the problems caused by big govt

If you are slapping yourself and it hurts, quit fucking slapping yourself!

8/16/2016 8:44:53 AM

Quote :

"Damn, all the insurers are dropping Obamacare. What a failure. Sad!"

They aren't dropping them because they aren't making money though.

https://news.aetna.com/news-releases/aetna-reports-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-2015-results/

Quote :

"Full-year 2015 operating earnings were $2.7 billion, or $7.71 per share, a per-share increase of 15 percent over full-year 2014. "

And how are they making so much money? Oh yeah, thanks to the Obamacare Medicaid expansion.

Quote :

"The company said its overall profit leapt 38% in the final quarter of the year, as a key measure of spending on medical costs fell. The strong quarterly results were fueled largely by its government business, which includes Medicare and Medicaid."

So what is this really about?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2016/07/21/justice-department-sues-to-block-anthem-acquisition-of-cigna/

Quote :

"The Obama administration on Thursday sued to block two blockbuster mergers involving health insurers, setting up a potential showdown with four of the nation’s largest carriers covering tens of millions of individuals and families."

Oh.....right....they are children. Let's hurt the people we're supposed to be serving to get back at the federal government.

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 9:11 AM. Reason : .]

8/16/2016 9:07:58 AM

^everyone knows it's generally good practice to never believe a damn thing an insurance provider tells you. Ever.

^^yes, "small government conservatives" have really led the charge on ending marijuana prohibition.

8/16/2016 10:02:32 AM

I hate hypocritical Republicans who claim to be for small government, too.

[Edited on August 16, 2016 at 10:42 AM. Reason : Get out of this false dichotomy, dude]

8/16/2016 10:34:31 AM

It just gets on my nerves when libertarians slap themselves on the back for having a solution (and many times a pretty good solution)

But they don't have a candidate (or even a libertarian leaning republican) in 98% of all the votes I've ever cast.

8/16/2016 11:09:08 AM

I think they'd love to have a candidate in every federal, state, and local race across the country. Help them get there. Quit supporting the 2 party system.

8/16/2016 11:48:59 AM

The problem is I don't agree with them on a significant number of issues, even little L libertarians. I might consider one if they neuter a lot of libertarian ideas ala Gary Johnson, but I'm content to see what they can pull together on their own.

I also don't want to have to wade through all the neo-confederates and associated crazies.

So I think I'll just continue to support the progressive politicians, who, by the way, have done more to end MJ prohibition than the libertarian party by a long shot (Obama not withstanding)

8/16/2016 12:03:14 PM

barack obama doesn't care about black people

8/16/2016 12:10:29 PM

^^then you deserve to get all the BS that comes with the bureacracy

8/16/2016 12:45:56 PM

Shrike thinks BCBS being the ONLY provider in North Carolina under the ACA is a good thing

8/17/2016 12:35:13 AM

Quote :

"WASHINGTON—New details of the $400 million U.S. payment to Iran earlier this year depict a tightly scripted exchange specifically timed to the release of several American prisoners held in Iran. The picture emerged from accounts of U.S. officials and others briefed on the operation: U.S. officials wouldn’t let Iranians take control of the money until a Swiss Air Force plane carrying three freed Americans departed from Tehran on Jan. 17. Once that happened, an Iranian cargo plane was allowed to bring the cash home from a Geneva airport that day."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-held-cash-until-iran-freed-prisoners-1471469256

8/17/2016 9:08:12 PM

So... +3?

8/17/2016 9:23:21 PM

Quote :

"accounts"

Beatsunc only likes anonymous sources when their accounts support his positions.


[Edited on August 17, 2016 at 9:34 PM. Reason : True story]

8/17/2016 9:31:44 PM

who gives a fuck. if they released the hostages because we were finally paying back something an international arbitrator told us we had to pay back, all the better.

this shit is like when people were all "OMG WHY DOESN'T OBAMA CARE ABOUT BOWE BRING BOWE HOME" and then got all pissed when we finally did it and they saw how sausage gets made.

8/17/2016 11:31:14 PM

Quote :

"who gives a fuck."

families of future hostages

8/18/2016 8:44:06 AM

got bad news for them. the government still doesn't pay for hostages

8/18/2016 8:48:09 AM

The bad news is that the Government literally just paid for hostages, giving foreigners even more incentive to take American hostages than they had before.

8/18/2016 9:53:57 AM

So it would have been preferable to pay Iran $400 million without securing the departure of the three Americans?

I feel like that scenario would have elicited far greater outrage.

8/18/2016 10:27:30 AM

Beatsunc doesn't actually care about the "families of future hostages." He's just trying [and failing] to score cheap political points against proggies/libtards/or whatever his basic ass is calling them this week.

[Edited on August 18, 2016 at 10:37 AM. Reason : He care's about #1 primarily, and also secondarily.]

8/18/2016 10:31:17 AM

8/18/2016 11:08:38 AM

Ronald Reagan would have never made deals with the Iranians to free hostages. Only pussy liberals do that.

8/18/2016 11:48:21 AM

^^^ nice attack there. did that make you feel big and strong?

8/18/2016 12:02:10 PM