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" I hope its Austin and some of their D-line"

7/15/2011 11:52:05 PM

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"I think he meant to say buffet instead of team"

this had me rolling

7/16/2011 3:44:32 AM

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"And all this time I just thought Tarheel was another word for Faggot."

IOP2 1 year + 5 hours ago.

7/16/2011 12:08:11 PM

Go to Marvin Austin's twitter page

he's calling out the NCAA investigator, Chance Miller, on there.


....start at the bottom and work your way up:

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" # its full of crooks...lol less than 20 seconds ago via web * Reply * Retweet # its a reason that they dont give transcripts and tell you that you dont need an attorney..i wish the ncaa got investigated im sure half a minute ago via web * Reply * Retweet # facts pleases stop the lies please... @cmiller05 maybe you could sleep better at night..everything else is public record but tha ncaa facts 2 minutes ago via web * Reply * Retweet # i would love for the ncaa disclose all the facts and not put speculation in the media that are lies and use the public perception against 5 minutes ago via web * Reply * Retweet # @cmiller05 how is it that the ncaa dosent have full disclosure???? maybe because your interview techniques are unconstitutional??? 7 minutes ago via web * Reply * Retweet # everybody follow @cmiller05 he is the #NCAA INVESTIGATOR who enjoys to baiting 20 year old student athletes..go check out who hes following "

7/16/2011 5:38:29 PM

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" @cmiller05 how is it that the ncaa dosent have full disclosure???? maybe because your interview techniques are unconstitutional??? 7 minutes ago via web"

Inside Carolina will now claim that Marvin was water boarded.

7/16/2011 5:44:55 PM

Goddamn I love me some Marvin Austin. He's the gift that keeps on giving.

7/16/2011 5:52:11 PM

uh marvin the ncaa will disclose their facts

in october. who the fuck do you think you are?

7/16/2011 5:58:55 PM

I half expect to see MA leaving the NCAA COI meeting in October, throwing up Wolfpack signs with a "mission accomplished" tshirt

7/16/2011 6:30:02 PM

Jesus, is he really that dumb???

7/16/2011 6:39:25 PM

I think marvin will make a lot of money this year being endorsed by the UNC hush fund. He's figured out that when he goes on these rants a check shows up in the mail.

7/16/2011 6:39:55 PM

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"please stop the lies please"

7/16/2011 6:48:41 PM

popcorngif

7/16/2011 8:06:51 PM

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"Goddamn I love me some Marvin Austin. He's the gift that keeps on giving."

7/16/2011 8:42:07 PM

^ co-sign

it should be crystal clear that the only "class" athletes need to show up for and actually participate in at UNC is their respective sports practices.

[Edited on July 16, 2011 at 8:43 PM. Reason : ]

7/16/2011 8:43:18 PM

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"TECHNIQUES ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL"

7/16/2011 8:44:01 PM

Has justice provailed yet?

7/16/2011 9:36:26 PM

good article
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/07/17/2460376/mcadoo-case-puts-unc-court-in.html

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"Last fall, UNC football player Michael McAdoo accepted the university honor court's findings that he had received impermissible help from a tutor who footnoted and sourced one of his papers. The ruling resulted in an "F" on the paper, placed him on academic probation for a semester and helped keep him off the football team last year. He's also one of seven players who sat out the season as a result of an NCAA investigation into allegations of academic fraud and financial gifts and trips from agents. When McAdoo sought to return to the team this year, he was forced to make public the process that led to the honor court's punishment. And it didn't take long for the public spotlight to shine on something missed by the professor, the honor court, the athletics department and the NCAA: McAdoo had submitted a paper that plagiarized from multiple sources, with many passages lifted word for word. The discovery produced more embarrassment for a university still reeling from its worst athletic scandal in 50 years. This time, Athletics Director Dick Baddour had gone to bat for McAdoo to convince NCAA officials that he deserved reinstatement for what appeared to be a lesser, admitted transgression, only to realize afterward that the paper represented something worse. "This has been the most difficult year in the lives of everybody involved," Chancellor Holden Thorp said in an interview Thursday. "And this is another sad part of the whole episode." McAdoo, a defensive end from Antioch, Tenn., declined to talk about his case after a hearing Wednesday in which a state judge refused to grant him an injunction so he could play football. The professor who assigned him the paper, Julius Nyang'oro, who is also chairman of UNC's Department of African and Afro-American Studies, is out of the country and could not be reached. Baddour had testified to NCAA officials that McAdoo's paper was "his work." Baddour also could not be reached for comment. The 39 percent solution McAdoo's paper first became an issue when the university discovered that he had gotten too much help from a tutor, Jennifer Wiley, who wrote the footnotes and the bibliography for him. That led to his removal from the team for the past season, and after the honor court's decision, it prompted the NCAA to declare him permanently ineligible. McAdoo filed suit this month to challenge the NCAA decision. He contends that his misconduct, as found by the honor court, does not rise to the level of a full ban from playing football for NCAA member colleges. Unlike honor court cases, state Superior Court proceedings are public, and that required McAdoo to produce the paper at the heart of the academic violations, as well as records of the honor court and NCAA proceedings. Message board commenters on Pack Pride, a sports website devoted to rival N.C. State, seized on the paper, finding several examples of plagiarism. The SportsbyBrooks news blog was the first to pick up on the controversy. In the 21-page paper, about the evolution of Swahili culture, McAdoo lifted large chunks of prose directly from books and essays, and included one passage that appears to originate from various websites with little or no attribution. The (Raleigh) News & Observer scanned McAdoo's paper with an online plagiarism detection program, scanmyessay.com, and found that 39 percent of the content matched other material. Additionally, the program didn't catch passages from a 1911 book, "The Future of Africa," which McAdoo used extensively in his paper without giving the author proper credit. Missing the plagiarism For more than 130 years, UNC Chapel Hill students have pledged to abide by an honor code that forbids them from lying, cheating, stealing and other misbehavior. Those accused of violating the code go before a court of their peers who serve as prosecutor, defense and judge, deciding their academic fates in closed-door sessions. The process is defended by students, faculty and administrators. The McAdoo case caused the university to acknowledge that the honor court does not have the anti-plagiarism programs to catch cheating - programs that are free on the Internet. Some academic departments do have the capability. Thorp and other officials acknowledged that the honor court rarely investigates beyond the allegations brought to its attention. UNC history professor Jay Smith said he is not surprised the honor court missed McAdoo's plagiarism. He has been arguing for two years that the honor court system fails to get at the heart of the misconduct. He became a critic when he turned in a student for plagiarizing a paper in 2009. Smith had found four examples of copied passages, but at a hearing, the honor court's prosecutor provided the evidence for only one example. As a result, the court's panel could consider only that example. It found the student guilty, but the student appealed. The appellate panel, Smith said, threw out the charge on the grounds that it could have been an honest mistake, something the panel might not have done if it had known there were three other examples. The experience convinced Smith that students do not have the time or expertise to handle complex misconduct cases. He also said the court is too often limited to considering the charges brought to it, rather than exploring the possibility that a more egregious offense occurred. That's problem enough for cases involving non-athletes, he said. But when an athletic department relies on the court to determine facts crucial to a key football player's eligibility, he said that puts the university's academic integrity at great risk. Student-athletes on UNC's basketball and football teams help the university collect millions of dollars in television rights, ticket sales and licensing fees, creating pressure to keep athletes eligible. The athletics department puts "UNC's credibility on the line without apparently doing the due diligence on the basic facts of the case," he said. "And I think that's a very serious problem." The undergraduate honor court handles roughly 190 cases a year, and most students are found guilty - 90 percent for the most recent academic year. Often students admit wrongdoing, eliminating an evidentiary hearing before a five-student panel. Earlier this year, Smith surveyed faculty about the honor court. While a strong majority favored the process, one surprising finding was that many faculty said they don't use it. They are not identified in the survey, which was made public in April by the reesenews.org digital news service produced by UNC journalism students. Reasons varied. While some faculty said the punishments were too harsh, many others said the court was being too lenient on cheaters. Several responses suggested preferential treatment for student-athletes. "The evidence of cheating could not have been more obvious, and the excuse given was completely implausible," one wrote. "Also, this case dealt with a student-athlete, and I found the interventions from the athletics department asking that the case not be brought before the honor court unethical." More academic help Thorp said he wished someone in the university had caught the plagiarism in McAdoo's paper before the Wolfpack fans did, but he also said the handling of McAdoo's academic misconduct does not suggest the need for an overhaul of the honor court. He said there's no need to put the plagiarism-catching technology in the hands of honor court prosecutors because they are not asked to do more than prove or disprove the allegations before them. He also did not back away from the university's position that McAdoo should return to the team if the NCAA reverses itself about ruling him ineligible. The school has invited McAdoo to serve as a "student-coach" on the football team while he tries to convince a state judge to let him play. "He was tried by the honor court. He got a sentence and he served it," Thorp said. "So, if he wasn't (a member of) the football team and this whole thing happened, this is exactly how we would have handled it." Thorp does say, however, that reform is needed. His is to do more to help them in the classroom. "We need to do a better job creating an environment where our student athletes have the resources and time so they can do their academic work," he said. "

7/17/2011 2:48:48 AM

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"He also did not back away from the university's position that McAdoo should return to the team if the NCAA reverses itself about ruling him ineligible."

blatant cheaters on our team.....THE CAROLINA WAY

even after making everyone at UNC look like idiots by defending McAdoo, they still want him back

7/17/2011 12:04:12 PM

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"Reasons varied. While some faculty said the punishments were too harsh, many others said the court was being too lenient on cheaters. Several responses suggested preferential treatment for student-athletes. "The evidence of cheating could not have been more obvious, and the excuse given was completely implausible," one wrote. "Also, this case dealt with a student-athlete, and I found the interventions from the athletics department asking that the case not be brought before the honor court unethical.""

7/17/2011 12:43:38 PM

jesus, so many people should be fired after all this it isn't even funny.


but it is. HAHAHAHA

7/17/2011 1:59:10 PM

i didn't realize how truly scummy UNC academic standards were until all this

7/17/2011 2:41:28 PM

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"NCSU is now the Flagship of Academic Integrity of the UNC-system."

When people ask me where I went to school, I'm going to start answering with "the Flagship of Academic Integrity of the UNC-system"

7/17/2011 5:34:12 PM

FLAGSHIP

OF

INTEGRIIIIIIIIIITY

7/17/2011 5:44:28 PM

I think I have a new Chapel Hill nut buster finishing phrase...

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"FLAGSHIP OF INTERGRIIIIITYYYYYYYYYYY"

7/17/2011 7:49:18 PM

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"maybe because your interview techniques are unconstitutional"

I know! How dare a non-government entity not follow rules the government is supposed to follow. DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!! But, I'll give Tits credit for knowing what the Constitution is. or at least being able to spell it.

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"He said there's no need to put the plagiarism-catching technology in the hands of honor court prosecutors because they are not asked to do more than prove or disprove the allegations before them."

Did the chancellor of a major public university actually say that? Really? "There's no need to put tools in the hands of people to prove or disprove cheating, because they are only asked to prove or disprove cheating." WHAT? He should be fired for that fucking statement alone.

7/17/2011 7:59:17 PM

holden thorpe seems like grade A moron.

[Edited on July 17, 2011 at 8:57 PM. Reason : and we thought lee fowler was inept...]

7/17/2011 8:56:18 PM

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"He said there's no need to put the plagiarism-catching technology in the hands of honor court prosecutors because they are not asked to do more than prove or disprove the allegations before them."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

7/17/2011 9:20:46 PM

7/17/2011 9:43:57 PM

Screw you @NsmittyK . Butch aint no cheater and if you think @anchormanaustin has anything on him you've lost your mind. #aintgonnahappen


Lol. Tarheelbob23

7/17/2011 10:37:12 PM

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"@anchormanaustin marvin austin i think im tony montana!!!!!!! #scareface"

7/17/2011 11:17:06 PM

#thegoodfather

7/17/2011 11:17:59 PM

^hahaha

7/17/2011 11:27:55 PM

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"Did the chancellor of a major public university actually say that? Really? "There's no need to put tools in the hands of people to prove or disprove cheating, because they are only asked to prove or disprove cheating.""

No, he said they only have to prove or disprove the allegations brought before them. It's set up that way because if UNC's arm is twisted and they have to bring a football/basketball player before the honor court, they can basically say "hey, this guy is accused of this petty infraction, tell us if you agree or disagree. And don't go looking for anything else."

[Edited on July 17, 2011 at 11:48 PM. Reason : ...]

7/17/2011 11:44:02 PM

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"The school has invited McAdoo to serve as a "student-coach" on the football team while he tries to convince a state judge to let him play."

jesus fucking hell

what a damn stupid institution

7/17/2011 11:52:05 PM

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"No, he said they only have to prove or disprove the allegations brought before them."

and what better way to prove an allegation of cheating via plagiarism than with plagiarism-detecting software?

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"It's set up that way because if UNC's arm is twisted and they have to bring a football/basketball player before the honor court, they can basically say "hey, this guy is accused of this petty infraction, tell us if you agree or disagree. And don't go looking for anything else.""

Having that software wouldn't change that. They could still not bring up plagiarism charges, but in the McAdoo case, I think they originally did bring in said charges

7/17/2011 11:55:50 PM

^^UNC is making the worst possible PR moves over and over again

7/17/2011 11:58:41 PM

I believe McAdoo was only the citations and conclusion. The Honor Court did not try to find any other instances of cheating...aka reading the paper.

7/17/2011 11:58:55 PM

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"The school has invited McAdoo to serve as a "student-coach" on the football team while he tries to convince a state judge to let him play."

i hope they are using the term "student" lightly

it's also interesting to see the bit in the article about profesors not even utilizing the honor court and also asked not to put athletes through the process. These UNC professors are probably happy that this is coming out since education has had to play second fiddle to athletics at UNC...

[Edited on July 18, 2011 at 12:24 AM. Reason : ...]

7/18/2011 12:15:06 AM

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"Having that software wouldn't change that. They could still not bring up plagiarism charges, but in the McAdoo case, I think they originally did bring in said charges"

Basically they said he had Wiley format his works cited page.

But because of their policy, that's all the honor court was supposed to determine. NOT plagiarism.

7/18/2011 12:21:46 AM

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"The school has invited McAdoo to serve as a "student-coach" on the football team while he tries to convince a state judge to let him play"

So let me get this straight, the unc administration thinks its a good idea to take someone who the ncaa has issue with and was stripped of eligibility and has a shit storm of bad pr around him, all while they are defending a lawsuit from him and are trying to assassinate his character. Its so beautiful

7/18/2011 12:27:30 AM

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"jtmartin All American 3756 Posts user info edit post in on page 1 hoping this develops into a huge scandal that destroys their program for years to come... 7/15/2010 5:11:38 PM"

7/18/2011 1:09:09 AM

me on page 1.

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"Novicane All American 13168 Posts user info edit post yo nigga, come play for unc "

7/18/2011 4:18:46 AM

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"BOYCOTT DA FLAGSHIP"

7/18/2011 8:25:07 AM

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"So let me get this straight, the unc administration thinks its a good idea to take someone who the ncaa has issue with and was stripped of eligibility and has a shit storm of bad pr around him, all while they are defending a lawsuit from him and are trying to assassinate his character. Its so beautiful "

maybe he'll take some money from an agent in this role and be john blake lite.

7/18/2011 9:26:02 AM

In other words " we gotta keep this idiot quiet, let's give him a position and some $$$"

7/18/2011 9:35:44 AM

I went to a cookout at my father-in-laws house yesterday and I overheard some of his friends (who are Carolina grads in their 50s - my father in law graduated from NCSU, fyi) talking about the McAdoo story. I couldnt believe how they were all on board with the "every school does it" bandwagon. They also commented how UNC is being unfairly investigated and that the media around here is digging around and are "bound to find something eventually".

Its pretty sad really, they truly believe that McAdoo didnt do anything wrong and that UNC is the victim in all of this. They still support Butch and think that this will all blow over. I would expect this out of some wal-mart fans, but not educated, successful alums

7/18/2011 10:38:04 AM

^ all UNC fans are the same

7/18/2011 10:57:13 AM

i just IM'd an Alum, graduated around 2000 i believe from the Business School, but younger than me. I was just IM'ing him to rib him over the investigation and sent him the link of N&O article from today...

His first comment: "but....you should see how he can get to the qb" (sarcasm) "that's embarrassing"

Next comment: "the honor court was a joke while i was there too"

"i knew a couple guys who were on it and it was pretty clear that you could get away with stuff, or at least be punished for something less severe than you what you did"

later on... "swahili is supposed to be one of the easiest classes at carolina" "one of my friends took it and said it was a joke"

We know all this stuff, i know, but interesting to hear some dispassionate comments from non walmarters.
_____________________

Popcorn Material: Not only do i love me some marvin austin, but this guy "TarheelBob" looks like he's juuuussstttt stupid enough to provoke some "bean spillage". this looks juicy indeed.


TarheelBob23 Bobby Margo
@NsmittyK If you think @anchormanaustin has some dirt on Butch you crazy.Butch aint done nothing wrong.It was those crooks Blake,Marv,Greg.

Marvin replied:
@anchormanaustin
marvin austin
Believe what you want to @TarheelBob23 but facts are facts my guy

TarheelBob23 Bobby Margo
@anchormanaustin Yea,I know the facts.A few bad apples like U,Blake,Greg,Mac,etc gave UNC a bad name.Sure as hell had nothin to do wit Butch

haha, the retweet is awesome:
Retweeted by PackPridecom

[Edited on July 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM. Reason : popcorn]

7/18/2011 10:59:51 AM

when did dry snitchin on twitter become so big, not just the unc thing but a lot of this sort of stuff going on

7/18/2011 11:30:41 AM

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"Popcorn Material: Not only do i love me some marvin austin, but this guy "TarheelBob" looks like he's juuuussstttt stupid enough to provoke some "bean spillage". this looks juicy indeed."

T-dub should create a fake Walmart fan on twitter, have everyone follow them for credibility, and then just prod Austin.

7/18/2011 11:35:52 AM