HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldnt say no onecared. It appears that there were some in the administration who thought this should have been made public months ago. But thats beside the point. The fact of the matter is that there was a MAJOR attack on our computer systems, which might have swayed the election. It doesnt really matter what public opinion was at the time, it was clearly not handled correctly. This also isnt the first time a foreign government hacked into U.S. systems either. So its not like this is the first time and no one saw this coming.
[Edited on December 14, 2016 at 12:24 PM. Reason : no one] 12/14/2016 12:24:18 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
we are hacked daily, its only newsworthy because they used the information to impact politics 12/14/2016 12:33:54 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
So you are cool with foreign countries hacking into our computer systems. Just dont talk about it. 12/14/2016 12:38:59 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
No mention of McConnell or Ryan refusing to sign on to a release of hacking information pre-election?
[Edited on December 14, 2016 at 12:41 PM. Reason : They ran interference and cries foul. Party always comes before country for the GOP] 12/14/2016 12:41:13 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've heard one pundit explain the hacks as catastrophic as 9/11." |
By pundit, do you mean former deputy director and twice acting director of the CIA?12/14/2016 12:47:12 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " President Obama's credibility watch " |
And to call out the GOP for party coming before country is beyond hypocritical.
[Edited on December 14, 2016 at 12:49 PM. Reason : ^I am not sure exactly. But that would certainly lend more credibilty to the comment.]12/14/2016 12:48:33 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So you are cool with foreign countries hacking into our computer systems. Just dont talk about it." |
i understand and recognize that its not as catastrophic as 9/11 but also think that republicans should stop pretending like it didn't happen and let it be investigated12/14/2016 12:50:18 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Other than Trump (Lord, help us all), who is pretending that it didn't happen?
My criticism isn't that this didn't happen, its that it has happened on such a large scale previously, and we still weren't able to stop it. This was an attack on U.S. infrastructure, which PBO is accountable for. 12/14/2016 12:58:15 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
the RNC 12/14/2016 1:04:10 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
How is it the president's job to secure a privately owned server?
[Edited on December 14, 2016 at 1:07 PM. Reason : Excluding privately owned server's that may contain sensitive info.] 12/14/2016 1:07:08 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
^Pretty sure that is a responsibility of the SoS, who reports to the president.
I've seen republican's downplay the significance of the attack on the results of the election, which is understandable since its hard to quantify. But I havent seen anyone actually say it never happened (again, other than Trump). 12/14/2016 1:16:46 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Notsureifjoking.jpg 12/14/2016 1:35:19 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
99% of what I say on TWW is in a joking manner. 12/14/2016 2:20:26 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
take that to chit chat then (although I'm pretty sure you're trying to be serious) 12/14/2016 4:54:37 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on December 15, 2016 at 11:23 PM. Reason : To]
12/15/2016 11:22:13 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's pretty clear at this point that Obama's legacy will be mixed at best. Disastrous foreign policy misadventures, a very slow and uneven economic recovery that looks better on paper than in fact, midterm defeats for his party in congress, a war on whistle blowers, continuation of domestic spying and civil liberties abuses, expansion of drone warfare, and his one piece of key legislation is widely unpopular and likely to be repealed or gutted very soon after he leaves office.
Honestly there isn't much to say on the overall positive side except for the cultural impact of being the first black president. 12/16/2016 12:03:10 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/my-president-was-black/508793/?utm_source=atltw 12/16/2016 12:12:14 AM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Dude brought us out of the Great Recession with grace. 12/16/2016 1:25:41 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Apparently the birth certificate thing is back 12/16/2016 6:20:14 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Is it going to be in Trump's inauguration speech? 12/16/2016 6:30:34 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
^^they found the source document for the Photoshop!
Quote : | "Arpaio’s lead investigator, Mike Zullo, made the case that the certificate was created from a “source” document: the birth certificate of Hawaiian Johanna Ah Nee, who was born within weeks of Obama in August 1961." |
i watched a short video and did find it odd that 2 hand stamps were exactly same angle
[Edited on December 16, 2016 at 7:43 AM. Reason : angles man. angles ]12/16/2016 7:42:07 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
obama is killing it this year, gotta say
http://bythewavs.com/president-obama-signs-better-online-ticket-sales-bots-act-2016/ 12/16/2016 11:19:28 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Nice! Now tickets to Cuba to buy cigars and rum will be a little cheaper. Maybe. 12/16/2016 1:35:14 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
its for event tickets, not travel tickets 12/16/2016 1:53:05 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Oh well. Maybe I can borrow a raft from one of the refuges. 12/16/2016 2:45:46 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Actually considering going to Cuba this spring, pretty cheap plane tickets 12/16/2016 2:51:58 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
I am thinking of going in a couple years for my 40th. Unless Trump undoes all of the hard work Obama has done. Which I fully expect. 12/16/2016 2:55:09 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
Trump killed Castro, so there is that. 12/16/2016 4:16:09 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-un-idUSKBN14C1IV
Quote : | "U.N. Security Council demands end to Israeli settlements, U.S. abstains" |
Dude is not even phoning in the job anymore.
Is it 12:01 on January 20th, yet?12/23/2016 3:16:43 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
isn't that a pretty huge move? normally wouldn't we vote against that? that seems like a big deal to me.
[Edited on December 23, 2016 at 5:30 PM. Reason : or are you saying being against settlements is bad? because no. ] 12/23/2016 5:30:27 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
Usually, anytime the UN wants to beat up on Israel (which is very often), the US vetoes.
The fact that we didn't is "troubling" but not unexpected, with as anti-semitic the Obama administration has been.
[Edited on December 23, 2016 at 8:13 PM. Reason : space, comma, space] 12/23/2016 8:13:16 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
not supporting israeli settlements is not being anti-semetic. 12/23/2016 8:38:24 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
the US should abstain from the UN 12/23/2016 10:16:58 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "not supporting israeli settlements is not being anti-semetic." |
Agreed 100%, despite Netanyahu's spin.
Quote : | "with as anti-semitic the Obama administration has been." |
Yeah I'm gonna need to see your data on that accusation.
[Edited on December 23, 2016 at 11:10 PM. Reason : but i won't expect to actually see anything.]12/23/2016 11:08:27 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Never understood why conservatives have always had a hard on for Israel. I mean, yea, a Bible in a sea of Qurans, but it seems like they spend so much effort on Israel.
Let's focus on getting our own homeless resettled? K? 12/24/2016 8:48:37 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Scripture bruh 12/24/2016 9:10:43 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
So + credibility 12/24/2016 9:39:45 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Never understood why conservatives have always had a hard on for Israel. I mean, yea, a Bible in a sea of Qurans" |
huh?12/26/2016 12:41:35 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
^maybe he meant just the first 5 books of the bible 12/26/2016 7:18:30 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
^^Ok, sorry, the Torah.
Better? 12/27/2016 9:43:26 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
The hard on for Israel is entirely a theocractic notion that jews are the chosen people and this is one of the ways conservatives have secured political power to enact a Christian principle. It may have some other offshoots, but the core is purely religious. 12/28/2016 12:12:47 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
It's not that republicans love Israel so much as liberals hate Israel because it is everything they despise: an independent, capitalist, conservative, patriotic nation 12/28/2016 1:37:59 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
They're so independent the US sends them $4Billion a year to prop up their military! They're so capitalist and conservative they have (nearly) universal healthcare! 12/28/2016 8:46:12 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
plus points today 12/29/2016 4:52:10 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Democrats in the Bush years: Bush lied, people died Democrats in the Obama years: Why would the FBI or DHS lie!?
It's hard to tell if they really are that naive, or if reality doesn't matter and it's all about cheap political points. 12/29/2016 7:07:51 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty sure Bush setup his own intelligence unit to override the CIA, FBI, and state department findings so that they could pick and choose the evidence to support the Iraq war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Plans
[Edited on December 29, 2016 at 10:19 PM. Reason : pesky facts] 12/29/2016 10:17:31 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I love how people are justifying heinous actions and behaviors by pretending the world has a karmic superficial equal-opposite balance. 12/30/2016 12:38:55 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ this.
Also, this situation is pretty much unanimously agreed upon by departments who have never really liked each other or wanted to work with each other. Literally the only people questioning it are Trump or Not-Clinton people.
[Edited on December 30, 2016 at 9:15 AM. Reason : X] 12/30/2016 9:14:47 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""We can't get health care for free. You're going to have to pay for it one way or another: either the government [or individuals] pay more."" |
+credibility for PBO to learn that that health insurance doesn't fall from the sky.
-credibility that he still thinks that Government revenue however, apparently does.1/6/2017 12:05:06 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
- 8 for that many years of economic growth < 3%
+ 14 for that many days until he's no longer President 1/6/2017 6:43:46 PM |