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someone was asking about the song that desmond was playing

its "make your own kind of music" by the mamas and the papas

9/29/2005 10:27:11 AM

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"his dad was drunk during surgery not far before the beginning of lost"



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"yea but that event happened after he was married


its a flashback, just b/c it happens early in the show doesnt mean it happens early in their life.


according to the show, walt's mom died before she took him to australia "




so that leads me back to my original question...

did his fight w/ his dad break up his marriage?

9/29/2005 10:30:40 AM

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wait

how old do you think the dynamite that came from the black rock was


and
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his dads drunk surgery appeared to be not too terribly far before he left for australia
which was the reason for jack being on oceanic flight 815


[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 10:32 AM. Reason : dadrock]

9/29/2005 10:31:02 AM

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ok i dont remember how old the ship appeared so i am going to concede that pt.

9/29/2005 10:32:12 AM

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and there are still plenty of slave traders in the world today

9/29/2005 10:34:22 AM

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ya, so i guess i will have to look at the old episodes when i get home to see if jack had a wedding ring on when he called out his dad

9/29/2005 10:35:07 AM

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dude that was a 19th century ship

by the 20th century we had metal

def a 19th century ship bringing slaves from mozambique to a mining colony

9/29/2005 10:36:26 AM

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"she said the others killed her people, so unless she is lying the others are not her crew"


I am saying The Others could have captured her people like they did MRod and she would think them dead.

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"russo (frenchie) is from the black rock
this isn't hard to keep up with folks"


Russo is from a scientist team that crashed offshore.


The Black Rock was not Russo's ship. Its old and decrepit. How old is TNT? Its not a new invention.

[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 10:38 AM. Reason : *]

9/29/2005 10:37:18 AM

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tnt was invented in 1866

9/29/2005 10:40:16 AM

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i need to buy the dvds

now i know i'm wrong
but why does russo know so much about the black rock

9/29/2005 10:45:22 AM

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my assumption is that over 16 years she had time to do some exploring

[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 10:47 AM. Reason : .]

9/29/2005 10:46:49 AM

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russo didnt say the others killed her team, she said she killed her team

she said she shot them all b/c they were 'sick'

and i tried to find how long dynamite takes to 'sweat' like that, but source only said 'long-term storage,' didnt say how long. but from the amount of sweat and the packing material, straw, and my memory of what the ship looks like (it had masts didnt it??) i would say that is a very old ship and russo could not have been on it.

[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 10:47 AM. Reason : ^^b/c she has been on the island for 16 yrs, there isnt a whole lot to do]

9/29/2005 10:46:57 AM

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http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/442/lostep2wall37ey.jpg


who wants to count and tell us how long desmond has been there?

9/29/2005 10:48:42 AM

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well one of the many prob's with that is

what does each mark mean?

one day...one time resetting the time...what?

and if one day, if woodfoot is right and he hasnt been sleeping much, how accurate do you think his perception of time really is?

9/29/2005 10:51:14 AM

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ummm so previews for next week arent spoilers cuz i found an interesting screen shot???

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3046/john4aa.jpg

its a screen shot from last nights preview, very interesting

[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 10:52 AM. Reason : .]

9/29/2005 10:51:55 AM

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if it was shown last night, post it

9/29/2005 10:52:40 AM

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oh shit

no more numbers entered!



[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 11:00 AM. Reason : *]

9/29/2005 10:59:39 AM

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i must be missing something

what does that pic show

i see locke kneeling in the control room

what am i missing?

[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 11:03 AM. Reason : oh the computer monitor hanging from the desk??]

9/29/2005 11:03:00 AM

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SHIT GON GET REAL IN ABOUT 108 MINUTES!

9/29/2005 11:06:03 AM

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i think it will open all the doors

but i'm not sure

9/29/2005 11:07:13 AM

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locke was like WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO

put the monitor back on the terminal, k

9/29/2005 11:12:18 AM

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1 - When Desmond entered the numbers last week, he hit the spacebar between every number. When Locke typed, he never touched the spacebar (but the spaces seemed to be inserted anyway).

2 - Desmond asked Locke "do you know how to use one of those?" Does that mean, "do you know how to use an old POS like this?" or does it mean, "do you know how to use a computer at all?" Does Desmond have any idea how advanced the outside world is? I would assume he does since he met Jack IRL just a few years ago.

3 - Some speculation sprung up last week from Desmond getting down off the top bunk, the presence of a ping pong table, etc, implying that there might be more than just 1 person in the hatch. This week we saw 1/2 of a ping pong table mounted against a wall. Lends more credence to Desmond being alone down there.

4 - More confirmation on "Quarantine" written on the inside of the hatch. Desmond asked about how many of the survivors have gotten sick. He knows that there is something out there that is bad and it is quarantined off from him.

9/29/2005 11:26:09 AM

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1-that was the other thing i meant to post earlier and forgot!! gg

2-another good one cuz to me when he said "those" he meant "crazy contraption", like he had never used a computer before, but clearly he's been in the outside world less than 10 years ago (unless you buy into the twin theory which i dont)

3-i kinda toyed around with the idea that his bunkmate was the person he replaced, i mean that place has been there for a long time, multiple people could have lived there before desmond did.


[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 11:49 AM. Reason : .]

9/29/2005 11:42:57 AM

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this show has convinced me i need a new tv. this 19" POS is leaving me in the dark on a lot of clues.

9/29/2005 11:59:30 AM

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"someone was asking about the song that desmond was playing

its "make your own kind of music" by the mamas and the papas"


Thanks


Im still wondering if there is some significance to it being played. Ive listened to all the lyrics, and cant pick anything out that seems like it would mean to much.

9/29/2005 12:41:56 PM

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why can't they just ask desmond who he is and what he is doing in the hatch? i wanna know damn it!

9/29/2005 12:49:18 PM

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because he has a gun in their face

he gets to ask the questions

k

9/29/2005 12:52:59 PM

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they had plenty of time to ask him...if i was in that situation i'd be screaming, "who are you and why are you down here, don't shoot me"

9/29/2005 1:00:45 PM

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i was thinkin;

suppose lost's lucky numbers actually came up as the winning lotto numbers for the mega lotto thats at like 100 milllion now.

salsburybot would implode.

9/29/2005 1:15:31 PM

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^^and then you would get shot

[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 1:19 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2005 1:18:57 PM

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What timestamp does the shark come up on ?


i cant find it.


I have the high res HDTV rip, so i can pull some nice screenshots if theres any other questionables.

9/29/2005 2:58:01 PM

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if you have a hi-res rip

HOW ARE YOU MISSING IT

jeez

9/29/2005 3:18:01 PM

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just watch it till the shark.

hell i got a good still of it using my DVR remote control

9/29/2005 3:20:04 PM

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well there is the first scene when sawyer drops the bullets, then there is the one where mike shoots the shark.

9/29/2005 4:09:55 PM

saps852
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how about the only scene that shows the shark from the side under the water

9/29/2005 4:39:27 PM

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"i was thinkin;

suppose lost's lucky numbers actually came up as the winning lotto numbers for the mega lotto thats at like 100 milllion now.
"


hah, and there would probably be 100 winners

9/29/2005 5:03:14 PM

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yea ... probably

9/29/2005 5:08:45 PM

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Well, maybe Desmond has been brainwashed / had his mind erased prior to entering the hatch. That would explain lots of things.
1) him asking locke if he knows how to use a computer
2) why the hell would he be in the hatch in the first place (would you really volunteer for this?)
3) if he doesn't remember jack after jack explains how he knows him

9/29/2005 5:09:18 PM

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well...probably the virus causes some mental degredation.

hes as crazy as frenchie. hes got the virus, was quatenteened on the island...but somehow the virus got out some years ago, and 'the others' got it

9/29/2005 5:11:05 PM

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" if he doesn't remember jack after jack explains how he knows him"

i have never understood CharlieEFH more than i do right now

i'm gonna start a woodfoot and charlie thread only

9/29/2005 5:34:20 PM

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So which one is Steve?? Someone earlier asked if I even watched the show because I didnt know who he was. The only time I remember him being mentioned was when Scott died, and they thought it was Steve.

9/29/2005 5:51:19 PM

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okay i apparently completely missed it. what does steve or scott have to do with any of this now? what happened to them in season 1? i don't remember

9/29/2005 6:21:35 PM

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^^^

i didn't say that

9/29/2005 6:29:20 PM

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"according to the show, walt's mom died before she took him to australia "


how is that possible? the bird flu disease was in australia. thats why michael was in australia....to pick up walt

9/29/2005 7:15:19 PM

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I agree, I am pretty sure that Walts stepdad, or whatever his name was, came to Micheals apartment in the US, and said that Walts mom had just died. So he came from Australia. I seriuosly doubt she died in route to Austrailia, and her Husband moved in all the shit after she died. Hell, I dont even want to try to explain, its pretty clear she died in Australia. If you cant figure that one out, you dont need to be watching the show.

9/29/2005 7:23:37 PM

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I said that Woodfoot, and it sounds stupid now. Sorry for dumbing down the thread.

Possible causes for Desmond being crazy:

1. Virus
2. No sleep for however long he's been there (the whole entering numbers every 108 minutes thing)
3. As far as we've seen so far, he hasn't had any human contact
4. The drugs he uses could make him crazy

9/29/2005 7:24:44 PM

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well does anyone remember the episode from last season? walt is reading a book on birds and a bird is found dead on their front door step. then a week later, Walt's step-dad showed up on Michael's door step saying the wife had died

so Michael flew to Australia to get Walt.

9/29/2005 7:27:00 PM

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i just watched the episode the other day


100% they are in australia

walt makes the comment "it's birds of australia, why do i have to learn that"

9/29/2005 8:00:42 PM

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wow

you guys totally missed the sarcasm

i misread woodfoot's statement as:

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"his dad was drunk during surgery not far before after the beginning of lost"


as in i thought he was saying that b/c the flashback happened early in the show, that it also happened early in the chronology of the show, and therefore must have occurred before he was married. so i was attempting to say that, with that logic, walt's mother died before she took him to australia, since that event happened earlier in the show. apparently the :cracK: face does not give sarcasm very well.

9/29/2005 8:17:42 PM

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^^^Yes, then he is looking at a comic book with a polar bear in it. And that on top of his step dad saying he cant keep him because he is special/shit happens, something along those lines. The step dad is obviously frekd about him. We have already seen that Walt is reading a book about birds, and then the same bird he talks about crashes into the window of the room he is in. Then he has a comic book with a polar bear, and it dies on the same island as him. A tropical island where polar bears should never be. Somehow I think all of this revolves around Walt. Just not sure exactly how yet.

[Edited on September 29, 2005 at 8:18 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2005 8:18:13 PM

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