agreed that the styling on the back and bezel look great, but I'm not a big fan of the stand looking like a big PC monitor. That and the hodgepodge of parts from Taiwan and who-knows-where on the Vizio made me juuuuuust skeptical enough to go for the Samsung.

1/28/2014 3:08:36 PM

Does anyone have any recommendations for this scenario:

$1000-$1500
60-70 inches
Not plasma (bright room at times)
Smart TV doesn't matter
Picture quality does (dur)
Audio quality is whatever...could add a soundbar if needed

4/2/2014 5:25:46 PM

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Anybody have any experience with the curved LEDs? This thing looks relatively bad ass, and I like the idea of the speaker strips running up either side. Could be a nice addition to the bonus room some day.

4/3/2014 10:34:35 AM

With how cheap projectors are getting these days I think my next big home theater purchase will be a $1200-1500 projector and a nice 125-150" electronic screen. I'll use my current 55" for shows then pop the projector screen down for movies.

4/3/2014 12:17:30 PM

was in best buy yesterday to audition some headphones. the sharp 70" 4k caught my eye. I might need to step up when they drop the 80

4/7/2014 10:41:39 AM

plz guys i have a match tonight

4/8/2014 2:32:49 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN65H8000-Curved-65-Inch-1080p/dp/B00IDXIM88/ref=br_lf_m_1002405091_1_2_ttl?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&pf_rd_p=1773213162&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_i=1002405091&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0VTS0W1PZ1ZWZGGP24YS

Going to wait for the prices to drop on these and pick up a 65 for my bonus room!

4/9/2014 9:04:35 PM

^^^ I wouldn't buy a 4k tv until there is a lot more 4K content. By the time the content catches up, there will be newer tvs.

[Edited on April 9, 2014 at 10:18 PM. Reason : was/is]

4/9/2014 10:17:10 PM

I have 4k content. My console is my pc and my new gpu can play anything in 4k

4/10/2014 9:30:54 AM

Right, it can play anything that is 4k. But how much stuff is 4k?

You may be able to game in 4k, sure. You may get the occasional content from Netflix in 4k now that they just started streaming 4k content. But that will be select content, not everything on Netflix. What I'm saying is that there's not a lot of 4k content out there. That 1080p copy of Avengers you have is still a 1080 source. Playing it on a 4k tv won't make it 4k.

You could actually watch some stuff in 4k on a 4k tv now. That's true. But in a year there will be A LOT more stuff that you can watch in 4k and the tvs will be better simply because they're a year newer. Or the current tvs will cost less. If you're buying this for gaming, that's a lot different than for watching tv/movies.

Unless you're saying your box will upscale from 1080 to 4k. In which case, OK, but that's really not the same thing.

Films will have to be remastered in 4K. Digital stuff that wasn't recorded in 4k or higher, at best, could be upscaled. Blu-rays currently aren't big enough to store 4k content. You're looking at 2015 before the new blu-ray discs are even manufactured and can store enough data for 4k.

It's not that the technical capability isn't there. It's that there just isn't a lot of stuff that is actually 4k to use on the equipment.

And streaming 4k content (netflix, amazon instant in the near future)? You're going to need 15+Mbps download speeds (and that's compressed). And that's assuming your ISP doesn't throttle the shit out of it as some have already been throttling (non-4k) Netflix traffic.

It will all come along. But if I had to buy a tv today, I'd rather spend my money right now on a really good 1080 tv or less on a decent 1080 tv, than an OK 4k tv. Or I'd get a projector. Personally, I'm just going to be patient.

[Edited on April 11, 2014 at 10:03 AM. Reason : .]

4/11/2014 9:34:56 AM

this looks pretty decent - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00BP54M26

any better options out there for similar $?

[Edited on April 29, 2014 at 3:18 PM. Reason : $819]

4/29/2014 3:17:38 PM

im still waiting on the damned vizio p-series

4/29/2014 3:21:13 PM

Anyone have experience with the Aquos line?

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_05771355000P

This one appears to be the top selling 60" on Amazon so I figure it can't be turrrible, right?

4/29/2014 5:22:01 PM

^cant comment on that one but the 50" sharp 60hz i got for $499 a few months back is a piece of crap

4/29/2014 7:22:13 PM

don't buy anything important or expensive from sears

4/29/2014 7:29:08 PM

I wouldn't trust a Sharp TV as far as I could kick it...

[Edited on April 29, 2014 at 7:50 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2014 7:49:53 PM

Quote :

"This one appears to be the top selling 60" on Amazon so I figure it can't be turrrible, right?"

Lots of people own lots of terrible TVs.

We have two at work. They are suitable for projecting video or a desktop onto for a period of time.

I would not watch it as my primary television.

[Edited on April 29, 2014 at 11:12 PM. Reason : .]

4/29/2014 11:12:01 PM

So the Aquos line is shit?

What else would you recommend in that price range?

4/30/2014 1:18:45 AM

Looking for a bedroom TV, what size to go with? 32" seems standard but I think for our room it'll be kinda small.

5/22/2014 12:43:28 PM

Uh, that's pretty dependent on room size.

5/22/2014 1:57:33 PM

I went with 40" in the bedroom. Could go bigger. Not that huge of a room either.

5/22/2014 2:16:57 PM

Yeah I'd use the same viewing distance rules as you would a living room for a bedroom.

There's many different charts I like THX's:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_HDTV_viewing_distance

Quote :

" Screen Size Recommended Range 35" 3.5' – 5.0' (1.0 – 1.5 m) 40" 4.0' – 6.0' (1.2 – 1.8 m) 50" 5' – 7.5' (1.5 – 2.2 m) 60" 6.0' – 9.0' (1.8 – 2.7 m) "

You're probably at least 7-8 feet from the tv? So 60"+

5/22/2014 2:18:30 PM

^^^ I don't want to off of the "room size" rule. Based on placement, we are about 12' feet away from where want the screen to sit. I'm definitely not buying a 65"+ TV for my bedroom. We'd probably be OK with a smaller screen since it's used less frequently than the living room TV. I'm just most concerned about the best bang for the $ TV money can buy at certain size points, since there aren't any black friday or Super bowl deals running right now.

[Edited on May 22, 2014 at 2:32 PM. Reason : ]

5/22/2014 2:27:59 PM

well then get a 46 then

5/22/2014 2:31:33 PM

http://www.health.am/ab/more/tv_in_the_bedroom_halves_your_sex_life_study/

Quote :

"“If there’s no television in the bedroom, the frequency (of sexual intercourse) doubles,” said Serenella Salomoni whose team of psychologists questioned 523 Italian couples to see what effect television had on their sex lives."

My girlfriend won't let me have a TV in the bedroom.

[Edited on May 22, 2014 at 2:32 PM. Reason : s]

5/22/2014 2:32:00 PM

^ haha, reminds me of that Blink 182 song.

5/22/2014 2:32:51 PM

I feel like the size of the room and distance room really only applies for main entertainment centers in living rooms or media rooms. In other rooms, the size is a lot more flexible. For example, we have a 32" in our exercise room. It is mainly watched from our exercise bike and treadmill which are on the other side of the room about 9-10' away, but 32" is absolutely plenty big enough for that room and the purpose.

5/22/2014 3:04:57 PM

Pulled the trigger on this one: http://bensbargains.net/bargain/samsung-un65h6350-65-120hz-led-smart-hdtv-1300-at-sears-123525/

http://www.smartreview.com/samsung-un65h6350-65-inch-1080p-120hz-led-hdtv

also if anyone wants to keep an eye on TV deals you can set the filter for http://bensbargains.net/ for TVs, and sort the list by "hottness," and each time you go back it'll show the best TV deals on top.

5/29/2014 11:45:39 AM

recently nabbed the 50" 1080p changhong from this thread for $360 shipped: http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/121872/newegg---50-changhong-1080p-led-hdtv

seems that a lot of the TVs we buy under other names are actually changhong (they're the second largest manufacturer of TVs in china) and they're trying to get into the american market under their own name...from what i've seen, reviews are pretty solid for their products

after almost a week, i'm very impressed (once i adjusted the color settings)...i'm coming from a 6-year old 720p plasma and even then i was concerned about the LCD picture quality (at the low price point, anyway) since i've been spoiled by plasma quality

for the money, i think you'd be hard-pressed to beat it...i was actually looking for a true 120hz TV, but i don't think i'll care that much since the fake 120hz (pretty sure it's just using backlight scanning) DOES seem to reduce motion blurring to the point that it i can't tell a difference between the LCD and my old plasma...of course, i don't have an LCD without the fake refresh to compare it to

[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 8:22 AM. Reason : link]

6/11/2014 8:21:05 AM

For sports I assume? My HDTV is pretty much set to 24hz 95% of the time (don't watch a lot of sports) as most tv shows and movies are 24p.

-Although I think the TV is taking the 24hz input signal and multiplying it by 5 for 120hz...that would reduce the motion blur associated with 24 frames per second content.

Although I never really understood this. If I'm giving it a 24hz signal and it says 24p on the tv is it actually doing 24*5 for 120hz or not? I believe so otherwise it would look really jittery.

[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 11:30 AM. Reason : s]

6/11/2014 11:11:33 AM

So yeah I'm right just double checking. A 120hz tv ALWAYS displays 120hz. It just does different types of pulldowns based upon the input signal. So if my HTPC is sending it a 24hz signal (as set in desktop settings) then the tv says hey lets take this 24hz signal and multiply it by 5 for my native 120hz settings.

That's why older 60hz HDTVs don't display movies well because they're ALWAYS having to do a 3:2 pulldown from 24hz to 60hz. You'll always get stuttering. 120hz and above tvs solve that problem.

The problem with hooking computers up to tvs is if you set your computer output to 60hz but your movies / tv shows are 24hz then your computer does the 3:2 pulldown and your tv won't be able to fix this even if it has a 120, 240, etc refresh rate. So always set your device output (computer, bluray player, etc) to 24p for watching movies / tv shows and your tv will know what to do with it.

quagmire02

Quote :

"recently nabbed the 50" 1080p changhong from this thread for $360 shipped: http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/121872/newegg---50-changhong-1080p-led-hdtv"

Yeah but in the specs:

Quote :

"Refresh Rate: 60Hz"

So it's not even a 120hz tv. A 120hz tv can at least refresh at a 120hz rate. You can only do 60hz therefore any type of traditional TV show or movie that tries to output at 24p you'll be dealing with 3:2 pulldown which is very annoying (in my experience). Essentially you can't view true 24p output from a Bluray player or PS3 etc with only a 60hz HDTV. You need 120hz at the minimum for true 24p playback.

[Edited on June 11, 2014 at 12:23 PM. Reason : s]

6/11/2014 12:03:07 PM

anyone keep up with deals? what's the best ~50" TV today for <$500

i have a 10 year old Samsung and its poor contrast is hurting my ability to kill bad guys

these okay?:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Seiki-SE55UY04-55-4K-UHD-2160p-120Hz-LED-HDTV-4K-x-2K/35030328?wmlspartner=TnL5HPStwNw&sourceid=14726373934226275733&oid=183959.1&u1=skim33330X1169095X10ae7124b725b61df545764297a54652&affillinktype=10&veh=aff
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Seiki-Digital-SE50UY04-50-4K-UHD-2160p-120Hz-LED-HDTV/33490006?wmlspartner=TnL5HPStwNw&sourceid=19306958712348092633&oid=183959.1&u1=skim33330X1169095X6cd49cf46190d196ae0410f58b1e15cc&affillinktype=10&veh=aff



[Edited on July 2, 2014 at 6:51 PM. Reason : .]

7/2/2014 6:48:48 PM

Quote :

"Summer months are generally a bad season for TV deals, but if you find yourself in dire need of a new set, there are a few categories you should look at. Off-brand 55" LCDs, for instance, have been holding steady at $500 since January, the second-best price of the year. Look to Best Buy and Sears for deals on models from the likes of Westinghouse and RCA."

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2014/07/01/here-what-should-and-shouldnt-buy-in-july/

7/3/2014 2:44:44 PM

I still wouldn't buy a 4k TV. You're going to get a poor quality TV that has appeal simply because it's 4k then you're only going to be able to play some content. Sure Netflix has a few shows in 4k but are they all REALLY in 4k or are they just upconverted? Also they suggest at least a 25mbps download from your isp.

I'd rather spend that much on a much nicer full array LED 1080p tv.

7/3/2014 3:48:58 PM

but I go years between TVs, when I bought this HDTV there was barely any content for that too (and the content I had was HD-DVD). 4K gives me a longer life, I don't think its a fad like 3D.

i'm just trying to find the best $500 TV, 4k isn't a requirement though

[Edited on July 3, 2014 at 8:31 PM. Reason : .]

7/3/2014 8:30:35 PM

I'm saying spend the money on a decent 4k TV now or wait until they get cheaper don't get a cheap one now. You'd be better off getting a good quality 1080p TV. It's going to look better than that 4k tv in terms of contrast and color. In fact it's the perfect time to buy a good quality 1080p HDTV now because 4k TVs are going to start flooding the market.

When you're ready to upgrade in 3-4 years 4k TVs will be much cheaper and better quality. It's going to take a while before 4k content is that mainstream anyway.

7/4/2014 3:00:05 PM

yeah doesn't seem like a good time to go 4k yet, even if you aren't planning to upgrade for several years again.

7/4/2014 4:56:09 PM

dtownral, check out the Vizio E-series. 50" is 599, 55" is 699.

Smart TV, built-in wifi, LED LCD with local dimming (12 zones), 4 HDMI ports. They get great reviews and are generally considered the best bang for the buck TV of 2014.

e550i-b2 (don't get the e##0i-a#. the "a" is the 2013 model).

http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-e550i-b2/

You may want to look at plasmas too. Plasmas are still great picture-wise. Better than lower-mid LCDs. And they're cheap. Plus, the big companies will stop producing plasmas after this year. So they'll just come down in price as they try to unload them.

re: 4k content. A tv with 4k in the price range you're looking at is probably going to suck in a lot of areas. The reason the Vizio e-series stays cheap is that they don't fuck with 3d, 4k, and a few other things you find in higher-end tvs. The audio on them sucks too. But the picture is very good. And a sound bar/stereo will take care of the sound.

[Edited on July 7, 2014 at 6:34 PM. Reason : plasmas]

7/7/2014 6:24:47 PM

I preferred plasma before, is there a reason not to get plasma

7/7/2014 9:15:29 PM

the drawbacks to plasma are going to be:

puts off more heat and uses more electricity (even then, it's pretty cheap to run a TV for the year)
will be thicker/heavier than an LCD (specifically LED-LCD since most are lit with LEDs now).
more glare on the screen. So if you have a shit ton of windows that let sun in while watching tv, it will be worse on that front. Personally, I own blinds and curtains.

But baring any of that being a big turn off for you, then no, there's no reason to not get a plasma as long as you find one you're happy with at the price point you want.

They have better black levels, motion-blur is a non-issue (they'll list a refresh rate for people who don't know any better, but it's moot).

7/7/2014 9:42:19 PM

It looks like my options are:
http://www.cnet.com/products/lg-50pb6600-50-class-49-9-viewable-plasma-tv/specs/
http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-pn51f5300/specs/

Still reading through the 22 page AVS discussion for the samsung:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/167-plasma-flat-panel-displays/1503133-samsung-pn51f5300-what-little-gem-i1pro-calibration-results-inside.html

I don't need or care about wifi or smart TV capabilities. Only 2 HDMI ports is annoying but should be manageable. I only have 2 now, and its only inconvenient on a rare occasion.

7/8/2014 10:22:29 AM

I'm not sure if you still live in Raleigh or not, but if so, the Best Buy in crossroads has that samsung plasma. And they have it on display right next to the vizio e-series I mentioned above. It's in the back right in an aisle running perpendicular to the back wall. The Samsung was $549 and the 50" vizio was $599.

I was literally just looking at them a couple of hours ago.

It's always tough to tell with the settings they use in store, but the image on the plasma looked pretty good. Not unnaturally bright and the colors looked natural. Of course, it had a lot of glare under the store lights.

[Edited on July 8, 2014 at 8:25 PM. Reason : .]

7/8/2014 8:24:31 PM

cool, thanks for keeping an eye out

7/8/2014 9:11:03 PM

in the market for a small tv - only requirements are that it needs to be less than 25" wide and at least 1 HDMI input - it's in the bathroom mounted above the tub and will be used primarily for apple tv airplay - any recommendations?

8/12/2014 2:18:15 PM

i said the wrong # previously - 35" max width

8/17/2014 9:35:42 PM

woo it's finally available http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-P602ui-B3-60-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B00M2FBEG0

9/29/2014 7:34:40 AM

I don't really see the point in spending money on 4k tvs right now. There's just not enough 4k content for it to be much of a selling point. I'd rather put my money toward an overall better 1080 tv or simply save the money by getting a comparable TV that is 1080.. In a few years, 4k tvs will be more than a talking point.

Netflix has some 4k content, and they just announced it will cost $3 more/mo. if you want access to it.

[Edited on October 13, 2014 at 7:58 PM. Reason : .]

10/13/2014 7:57:28 PM

Is it true that they are going to stop making plasma tv's? Do I need to buy one now?

10/14/2014 9:15:10 AM

panasonic already stopped and they were the best ones left

10/14/2014 10:59:38 AM

So i guess I need to look around for Panasonics that are still in inventory somewhere?

i put my plans on hold until the end of the year, i didn't know i was in danger of not finding a plasma. i prefer plasma to LCD.

10/14/2014 11:03:14 AM