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I would think that Sayid would have a little harder time hiding his recognition of Michael. The Dr. was standing right there, and Sayid gave no hint of recognition when he saw Michael. He would/should have had some kind of reaction

3/13/2008 8:52:06 PM

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He was in the NFL you fucking racist.

3/13/2008 8:52:14 PM

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"I would think that Sayid would have a little harder time hiding his recognition of Michael. The Dr. was standing right there, and Sayid gave no hint of recognition when he saw Michael. He would/should have had some kind of reaction"


JESUS I KNOW THIS SHIT IS SOOOO UNREALISTIC

3/13/2008 8:54:08 PM

joepeshi
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^
^^^

You're just racist b/c he is Arab.

3/13/2008 8:54:57 PM

Walls1441
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wait.

Wat?

3/13/2008 8:57:57 PM

agentlion
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hood-winked - doh!

i thought Jin looked kind of shaggy. i was wondering if it was because he was supposed to be younger, or if he had relaxed since leaving the island. i guess the former

3/13/2008 8:58:09 PM

Ernie
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I knew Jin wasn't going to his baby

3/13/2008 8:58:44 PM

Walls1441
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cool. I knew walt was on the boat.

3/13/2008 8:59:01 PM

Ernie
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I did not know Jin was dead

OR IS HE

3/13/2008 8:59:54 PM

agentlion
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GDAMMIT FUCKING ABC OTA VIDEO IS FROZEN BUT AUDIO STILL WORKS AND IT'S ALL IN KOREAN WHAT'S SHE SAYING

3/13/2008 9:00:32 PM

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Jin can't go to his baby if he's dead.


THEREFORE Aaron is an oceanic sicks and i was right

3/13/2008 9:00:58 PM

joepeshi
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wow i'm confused

3/13/2008 9:01:38 PM

agentlion
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about what

3/13/2008 9:02:49 PM

jwb9984
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nice jin flash-back / sun flash-forward deek

that was jacked up

3/13/2008 9:02:54 PM

joepeshi
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Ji Yeon was conceived on the island correct. If she wasn't then she would be Oceanic 7.

3/13/2008 9:03:37 PM

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I could tell from the beginning by Jin's hair. It looked like some of the earlier flashback shots, while hers was obviously a flash-forward. That last scene was pretty fucking sad all the same.

[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 9:04 PM. Reason : ]

3/13/2008 9:03:51 PM

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So everyone that dies on the island after/during the rescue is buried back in real life?

[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 9:07 PM. Reason : asdf]

3/13/2008 9:04:32 PM

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"Of course, morons thinking aaron is part of the six."


hahaha pwnt



btw, Jin's tombstone said he died on September 22, 2004. I can't remember what the date of the plane crash was, but I'm thinking that he is one of the 2 that they claim died in their coverup story. And also, was the Captain indicating that Ben was behind the whole coverup and the fake plane/bodies?

3/13/2008 9:07:13 PM

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2 possibilities. Michael is one of the six or Jin made it off and died afterwards. I'm guessing the latter.

[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 9:09 PM. Reason : oh I didn't see the date just 2004.]

3/13/2008 9:07:38 PM

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why does Jin have to necessarily be dead. They would have graves for all the others on the plane. I bet he is still on the island since all she said was I miss you so much. Could go either way.

3/13/2008 9:08:19 PM

Ernie
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Or Aaron is

durr

3/13/2008 9:08:46 PM

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"why does Jin have to necessarily be dead. They would have graves for all the others on the plane. I bet he is still on the island since all she said was I miss you so much. Could go either way.

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yeah because Jin and hurly going to the grave was totally part of the cover story.

3/13/2008 9:10:59 PM

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"And also, was the Captain indicating that Ben was behind the whole coverup and the fake plane/bodies?"


Well Miles knows Ben has access to $millions, so I'm guessing yeah.

Besides, if Whitmore didn't build the fake crash who else would have? I doubt Dharma or Oceanic would have the funding/motive.

If everyone thinks 815 is dead they won't look for them and steal away Ben's neurosurgeon.

3/13/2008 9:12:23 PM

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hooray Michael

nooooooo Jin

3/13/2008 9:12:26 PM

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Aaron is one of the 6, give it up.

Here is my overall theory about the oceanic 6.

Jin is still alive. There were only 6 people that the freighter would take back, so Sun got a spot and he didnt.

The 6 that went back faked the deaths of all of the other survivors, and left them on the island (previewed by the scene they have shown of hurley among the 50 or so crosses on the beach). Also foreshadowed by the black guy interrogating hurley with questions like "they are still alive, arent they" in the mental hospital.

Sun was calling for Jin because she knows he isnt dead.

Ben wants to protect the island at all costs. Widmore wants to exploit the island at all costs. There is definitely a war there, and the 815 survivors are caught in the middle.

Who dies next week? Juliette i think.

3/13/2008 9:15:00 PM

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Why would Sun and Hurley go to a graveyard if they knew he was alive?

3/13/2008 9:16:51 PM

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what was the point of the jin flashback?

3/13/2008 9:18:21 PM

agentlion
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yeah, he clearly dies one way or another, and the gravestone date of Sept 22 indicates that he was one of the ones that was supposed to die on the plane, or he was one of the "2 that survived but later died" that kate talked about at her trial

3/13/2008 9:18:24 PM

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^^to make you think he was alive

[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 9:19 PM. Reason : $$$]

3/13/2008 9:18:49 PM

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Michael is a shitty character.

3/13/2008 9:27:20 PM

BadPokerPlyr
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I was hoping Mr. Ecko was on the boat

3/13/2008 9:28:53 PM

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i think the show Sun was watching in the flash forward was the show that that chick Nikki (of Nikki and Paulo) was shooting in her flashback

why did Hurley say "Good" when he found out that no one else was coming?

3/13/2008 9:35:29 PM

BadPokerPlyr
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It wouldn't surprise me if Ben "hires" Jin ...if he indeed isn't dead

3/13/2008 9:37:50 PM

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"why did Hurley say "Good" when he found out that no one else was coming?"


Maybe he doesn't trust anyone else? Like Jack.

3/13/2008 9:43:27 PM

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i'm so confused now. ok obvi juliette was right, because sun got off the island and lived. so does that mean ben is "bad"? cause in the sayid episode, he was working for ben? i'm just confused. maybe there's some revelation after they leave the island?

3/13/2008 9:49:01 PM

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Well we do know it's Ben v. Widmore

but we don't really know wtf either of them has specifically done (aside from the time Ben did gas the entire island)

the captain claims Ben did the fake 815 crash... but if we aren't supposed to trust him, who the fuck knows

[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM. Reason : .]

3/13/2008 9:52:37 PM

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"who the fuck knows"


hahaha that was the best comment so far

3/13/2008 9:53:47 PM

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"obvi juliette was right, because sun got off the island and lived"


no...the only way juliet is "obviously right" is if sun stays on the island and dies...

since she doesn't stay on the island...it can't be proven that juliet was right

3/13/2008 9:59:16 PM

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for real, that entire post made no sense

3/13/2008 10:00:02 PM

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what i dont understand is how the people on the boat can know so much about the oceanic people but not know who michael is. they had no reason to know if he was dead/alive, on the island/off the island so he should have been one of the people on their 'dossier' or whatever.

3/13/2008 10:02:50 PM

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^^^well that is true that she didn't stay and die; but obviously she followed juliets advice i guess which would lead one to think that the people who left went a long with the notion that ben wasn't trustworthy? but then sayid was working for him in his future flash so...maybe you ^^ have it all figured out but i guess i still have questions.

[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 10:04 PM. Reason : .]

3/13/2008 10:04:02 PM

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"so does that mean ben is "bad"? cause in the sayid episode, he was working for ben? "


ben is "bad" if you believe Penny's dad is "good"

if you believe Penny's dad is "bad", then ben might be considered "good"

obviously...it's best not to worry about it and let it be whatever it turns out to be

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obvi[ously]

3/13/2008 10:04:06 PM

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"what i dont understand is how the people on the boat can know so much about the oceanic people but not know who michael is. they had no reason to know if he was dead/alive, on the island/off the island so he should have been one of the people on their 'dossier' or whatever."


they've got names and info

I don't know that they had more pictures than Ben

plus there are survivors missing now: they didn't ask anyone about Ana Lucia- what if Michael's just counted as "dead"? They're not there to save them, I wonder if they even care that much about accounting for all the survivors.

Not to mention that if Michael never gave them his real name, they might not know anything about him.

[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 10:07 PM. Reason : .]

3/13/2008 10:04:25 PM

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"ben is "bad" if you believe Penny's dad is "good"
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i'm not talking about what i think about him, i'm talking about in terms of the show. and clearly i understand your point...hence the use of the quotation marks in the first place. in this episode ben was portrayed as untrustworthy (and has been all along) hence the "bad." if the people chose not to stay with him you could infer that they thought he was "bad"/untrustworthy/whatever reason you want. so i was just pointing out the disparity between people not staying with ben/locke v. sayid supposidly working for ben in the future. if they didn't want to stay with him, why are the working for him? i'm guessing michael's comeback might shed some light on that?



[Edited on March 13, 2008 at 10:10 PM. Reason : .]

3/13/2008 10:07:58 PM

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Miles spends yet another day with a grenade in his mouth

3/13/2008 10:08:51 PM

StillFuchsia
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^ hahahaha, yeah

poor dude

3/13/2008 10:10:14 PM

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[quote]why does Jin have to necessarily be dead. They would have graves for all the others on the plane. I bet he is still on the island since all she said was I miss you so much. Could go either way.

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yeah because Jin and hurly going to the grave was totally part of the cover story.


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If one were to believe what the Captain said about the black box, than all the passengers of Oceanic 815 would have a grave. Sun went to Jin's grave not because of the cover story, but because she wanted to talk to her husband. She left him on the island and she can never get back; so in a way, Jin is dead.

3/13/2008 10:55:46 PM

Ernie
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That makes sense and seems like something the writers would do to throw off viewers

3/13/2008 11:10:11 PM

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^^ i was being sarcastic.

3/14/2008 12:31:24 AM

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it could also be that Jin is alive, but Sun think he's dead, not knowing if the others left on the island are alive. Maybe Jack will use this as leverage in the future, telling her Jin is alive, in order to get her to return to the island since he said we weren't supposed to leave.

3/14/2008 9:05:12 AM

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