and a 'witch hunt' is rightly so. given the extreme radical past of the president; from the marxist/socialist mentors he followed and studied under, to expediently reaching the top of the political bell curve thanks to the separate gov't entity known as corrupt chicago politics, to his recently published book which has red ink dispersed through out .. to blindly except his every move is idiotic.

and dont undermine a "czar's" position in any case, he/she still has immediate access to the president with all influential capabilities

we dont need a self proclaimed marxist in the goddamn executive branch, let alone anywhere near our constitution and those elected who abide by it

9/8/2009 2:27:39 AM

i'm def not that cynical

9/8/2009 2:30:39 AM

^^You've already done a good job of exemplifying my point. There's no need for you to continue.

9/8/2009 3:14:10 AM

i dont want communist in my govt, but as far as we know he is no longer one, and he should be judged by his actions and word, not by his past
what this is is a childish revenge attempt with little regard for the benefit of the country
they are now trying to destroy obama by destroying whats around him
and if that means our country suffers then its fine with them cause a country with a president they dont like is a country they dont like

9/8/2009 8:39:12 AM

               Mr. Thomas, the farmer, a stock man wearing a paper sun 
               helmet, enters. His face is worried as he squats down beside 
               the ditch. What he has come to say has taken some effort and 
               he is still uncertain and annoyed. The men stop work.

                                     THOMAS
                         Lissen here. Maybe I'm talkin' myself 
                         outa my farm, but I like you fellas, 
                         so I'm gonna tell you. You live in 
                         that gov'ment camp, don't you?

                                     TOM
                              (stiffening)
                         Yes, sir.

                                     THOMAS
                         And you have dances every Saturday 
                         night?

                                     WILKIE
                              (smiling)
                         We sure do.

                                     THOMAS
                         Well, look out next Saturday night.

                                     TIM
                              (suddenly tense)
                         What you mean? I belong to the central 
                         committee. I got to know.

                                     THOMAS
                         Don't you ever tell I told.

                                     TIM
                         What is it?

                                     THOMAS
                              (angrily)
                         Well, the association don't like the 
                         government camps. Can't get a deputy 
                         in there. Can't arrest a man without 
                         a warrant. But if there was a big 
                         fight, and maybe shooting--a bunch 
                         of deputies could go in and clean 
                         out the camp.
                              (Unfolding a newspaper)
                         Like last night. Lissen. "Citizens, 
                         angered at red agitators, burn another 
                         squatters' camp, warn agitators to 
                         get out of the county."

                                     TOM
                              (sick of the expression)
                         Listen. What *is* these reds? 
                         Ever'time you turn aroun' somebody 
                         sayin' somebody else's a red. What 
                         is these reds, anyway?

                                     WILKIE
                              (chuckling)
                         Well, I tell you. They was a fella 
                         up the country named King--got about 
                         30,000 acres an' a cannery an' a 
                         winery--an' he's all a time talkin' 
                         about reds. Drivin' the country to 
                         ruin, he says. Got to git rid of 
                         'em, he says. Well, they was a young 
                         fella jus' come out an' he was 
                         listenin one day. He kinda scratched 
                         his head an' he says, "Mr. King, 
                         what *is* these reds you all a time 
                         talkin' about?" Well, sir, Mr. King 
                         says, "Young man, a red is any fella 
                         that wants thirty cents a hour when 
                         I'm payin' twenty-five."

                                     THOMAS
                              (fretfully)
                         I ain't talkin' about that one way 
                         or the other. All I'm saying is that 
                         there's going to be a fight in the 
                         camp Saturday night. And there's 
                         going to be deputies ready to go in.

                                     TOM
                         But why? Those fellas ain't botherin' 
                         nobody.

                                     THOMAS
                         I'll tell you why. Those folks in to 
                         being treated like humans. Suppose 
                         the Government closes its camps.  
                         Suppose too many people pass through 
                         'em. Well, when those people go back 
                         to the squatters' camps they'll be 
                         hard to handle.
                              (Wiping his brow)
                         Go on back to work now. Maybe I've 
                         talked myself into trouble, but you're 
                         folks like us, and I like you.

                                     TIM
                              (extending his hand)
                         Nobody won't know who tol'. We thank 
                         you.
                              (Grimly)
                         An' they ain't gonna be no fight, 
                         either.

9/8/2009 10:03:17 AM

Quote :

"they are now trying to destroy obama by destroying whats around him and if that means our country suffers then its fine with them cause a country with a president they dont like is a country they dont like"

holy shit, watch out, obama haters have no thought process other than to bring his administration down.

Kinda' sounds familiar. bush endured 8 years of such protesting, to the likes of which obama hasnt even seen ... yet ...

disapproval ratings, approval ratings, and almost every rating that can be polled are going against the administration. thats not from some disillusioned radical movement. this is from widespread angst against the still-learning president ..

9/8/2009 3:40:46 PM

2 wrongs don't make a right?

9/8/2009 4:20:26 PM

Quote :

"New Poll Shows 76% Support For Choice Of Public Plan"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/17/obama-boost-new-poll-show_n_217175.html

Quote :

" * For all the public's reservations about health care reform, however, Barack Obama continues to enjoy the confidence of a majority of the public with regard to this issue. More say they have at least a fair amount of confidence in Obama on this issue (56%) than say that about either Democratic congressional leaders (45%) or Republican leaders (39%). * The economy remains the most frequently mentioned national problem, but an increasing proportion of Americans cite health care. Currently, 50% cite the economy as the most important national problem, down from 80% in February. Mentions of health care have risen from just 3% then to 20% today. "

- http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/washington-whispers/2009/09/02/poll-lowest-congressional-approval-in-two-decades.html

His approval ratings are down, but Obama still has a lot of credibility. It's not that people don't like WHAT he's trying to do, they are displeased, I would guess, with the way he's trying to do it. Which is easy to understand, when you have the single largest media outlet spreading blatant lies about the Obama administration and their plans.

9/8/2009 4:32:06 PM

dude that first part is dumb...there've been a few different articles on how when you take out "choice" in that statement, its under 50%...theres a similar example using the word "option"...for you to parade that out, especially with a huffingtonpost link is kinda insulting

[Edited on September 8, 2009 at 4:34 PM. Reason : .]

9/8/2009 4:33:57 PM

^ ha, what's your point?

The fact that it is a "choice" or an "option" is critical, and the fact that more people support it when it is made clear is also critical. This actually reinforces that idea that the distortionary media is damaging what the public views as their own interests.

9/8/2009 4:35:37 PM

oops. i heard it wasn't really going to be an option. they were just acting like it was an option but ppl wont have a choice in the future. my b

9/8/2009 4:39:29 PM

9/9/2009 2:17:38 AM

hey...I don't see Jenna Lee in that montage...

9/9/2009 5:52:13 AM

9/9/2009 8:48:07 AM

you won't have a choice in the future, dnl. You will HAVE to buy insurance from the exchange. But let lets not let facts get in the way of the liberals

9/9/2009 4:04:09 PM

dude is clairvoyant

9/9/2009 5:40:06 PM

Fox likes people with blond hair and blue eyes, who else liked those traits?

[/fox logic]

9/9/2009 5:53:24 PM

^^^ that's like saying "you don't have choice on which food you eat because you have to buy them in a grocery store"

the exchange, as one plan had it designed, is going to include public and private options, and you would STILL have the option of getting a premium plan outside the exchange if you like.

9/9/2009 6:09:25 PM

given that EVERY plan in the exchange has to meet federal gov't stipulations, it's disingenuous to say that you have a choice of something other than the gov't plan. And no, you can't get a premium plan outside of the exchange. It's like you haven't even been listening...



As for the "grocery store," I was not aware that there was only one grocery store chain and that it was run exclusively by the gov't, with all food items in the store approved bythe gov't. really...

9/9/2009 6:12:46 PM

^FDA?

9/9/2009 6:54:53 PM

does the FDA mandate what items are in the store? not really

9/9/2009 6:57:57 PM

Has this been posted?

Apparently, someone started a rumor that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990, and Beck hasn't denied it yet:
http://didglennbeckrapeandmurderayounggirlin1990.com/

And Beck is upset, even though the site specifically says they don't think he did it, that the site even exists:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/09/can-a-mere-domain-name-be-defamation-glenn-beck-says-yes.ars

Beck is suing the site for defamation

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 11:52 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 11:53 PM. Reason : ]

9/9/2009 11:44:34 PM

so, you would be ok if I created a domain name called "murderedsomeonein1990.com"? it pretty much is a text-book defamation case

9/9/2009 11:50:20 PM

^ the point is that Glenn Beck uses the same tactics against other people that he is now whining about being used against him.

9/9/2009 11:52:04 PM

key word being "did"

9/9/2009 11:55:27 PM

really? He makes websites that say "Obama murdered this person in 1990?" I was not aware of this. Please, show me a list of domains that Beck has registered in the past year

^ keyword being "did?" haha. that's rich. I guess I should go out and make a website called "Did thegoodlife rape and murder sara king in 2005" and you will be A-OK with that, right? As long as I put "did" in front of it.

[Edited on September 10, 2009 at 12:05 AM. Reason : ]

9/10/2009 12:04:46 AM

yes, I would be

9/10/2009 1:01:57 AM

^^ lol

So you’re okay if someone says these things outloud on TV to a million people, but it’s NOT okay to make a website about it?

haha

… weren’t you talking about “common sense” in another thread? Why not try using some, huh?

9/10/2009 1:08:28 AM

Like i said. give me a list of the defaming things he has said. you still haven't done so, btw

9/10/2009 1:12:41 AM

The point of the site is to attack the very common tactic that Beck and his cohorts like to use of making a loaded statement, then saying the evidence is unclear.

They know that even if the loaded statement they make is false (did glenn beck rape and murder a young girl), and the qualify that it may be false, it still plants the seed in a listener/viewer than the thing might have happened, but no one knows for sure.

The two instances of Beck doing this that got the most attention:
is Obama a racist?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/fox-host-glenn-beck-obama_n_246310.html

and any of the episodes where he talks about Obama’s birth certificates (which you fell for btw ha!).

It’s a spin on the old classic “so when did you stop beating your wife?"

[Edited on September 10, 2009 at 1:29 AM. Reason : ]

9/10/2009 1:28:26 AM

So, beck is discussing events that actually happened, and leads with an edgy headline. As opposed to someone making a sight about an event that probably never happened. And you equate those two?

9/10/2009 1:38:09 AM

He didn't just ask "Is Obama a racist?" either. He said it outright. Calling someone a racist can constitute defamation.

9/10/2009 1:38:55 AM

but only if you are a republican

9/10/2009 1:40:40 AM

it doesn't help your cause much.

9/10/2009 1:44:54 AM

^^^^ Are you being purposely obtuse, or do you actually not get it?

9/10/2009 9:20:42 AM

So now that we know Glen Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990, the only question is: in what order did he do it in?

9/10/2009 9:30:42 AM

9/10/2009 9:47:52 AM

(not racist)

9/10/2009 10:20:10 AM

if Glenn Beck really didn't murder and rape anyone

Then why won't he address the issue?

WHAT IS HE HIDING?

9/10/2009 10:24:58 AM

I hear Glenn Beck likes to pick up illegal immigrants from Home Depot and pay them to strangle him while he's in the shower.

9/10/2009 10:29:31 AM

At least he's not asking them to get him more iced tea, m-f'er.

9/10/2009 10:53:00 AM

Glenn Beck's "secret indoctrination Obama army of Black panthers?"

Turns out it was a high school step team.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-osborne/glenn-becks-2-week-video_b_277028.html

9/10/2009 12:24:50 PM

I can't believe that anyone even takes this guy seriously. To me he's just another Colbert.

9/10/2009 12:38:43 PM

except that he's not featured on a comedy channel, but a "news" channel. and hes not funny. and his show is not an intentional parody. and he has no concept of irony.

but other than that... yeah. pretty much the same

9/10/2009 2:53:57 PM

Obama, last night:

Quote :

"Without competition, the price of insurance goes up and quality goes down. And it makes it easier for insurance companies to treat their customers badly by cherry-picking the healthiest individuals and trying to drop the sickest, by overcharging small businesses who have no leverage, and by jacking up rates. Insurance executives don't do this because they're bad people; they do it because it's profitable."

Sean Hannity, right afterwards:

Quote :

"he said tonight that insurance executives are bad people, it took me back because it was so harsh, and I think unfair"

and even after watching the clip right their on the show, Pollster hack Frank Luntz repeated what Sean said

Quote :

"I think that he's trying to demonize a segment of American society, and through the work that I've done, he may be successful, Sean"

http://mediamatters.org/research/200909100006

9/10/2009 8:53:38 PM

fuck hannity. he's a lying sack of shit.

9/10/2009 10:17:39 PM

isnt hannity all about being harsh?

9/10/2009 10:56:39 PM

sure.
but what does that have to do with the quotes above?

9/10/2009 10:57:17 PM

how is Obama saying some people are bad harsh?

it seems alittle boo hooish to me.

thats what im saying

9/10/2009 10:58:18 PM

true, it would be weird for hannity to criticize someone for being harsh.

but he wasn't even correct about obama being harsh.

9/10/2009 11:01:38 PM