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skywalkr
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Wasn't that guy in LA either gay or bi too? Also, they said that the early reports of him intending to do harm at the parade were incorrect.

6/13/2016 4:17:46 PM

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she might have said "radical islamism" but not in the way trump wants

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"In an interview with NBC's "Today" on Monday morning, Clinton said words matter less than actions, but that she didn't have a problem using the term.

"And from my perspective, it matters what we do, not what we say. It matters that we got Bin Laden, not what name we called him," Clinton said. "But if he is somehow suggesting I don't call this for what it is, he hasn't been listening. I have clearly said we face terrorist enemies who use Islam to justify slaughtering people. We have to stop them and we will. We have to defeat radical jihadist terrorism, and we will."

Both terms "mean the same thing," Clinton continued, adding, "And to me, radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing. I'm happy to say either, but that's not the point."

"I have clearly said many, many times we face terrorist enemies who use Islam to justify slaughtering innocent people. We have to stop them and we will. We have to defeat radical jihadist terrorism or radical Islamism, whatever you call it," Clinton said later on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," reiterating, "it's the same."

The U.S. cannot, on the other hand, she added, "demonize, demagogue and declare war on an entire religion." Clinton also said she could assure Americans that she is equally committed to fighting Islamic extremism as well as protecting law-abiding Muslims."

6/13/2016 4:21:10 PM

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Just banned WaPo from his campaign events.

To be fair, Trump did insinuate Obama has sympathies with terrorists which is abhorrent but he did NOT say that he was involved with Orlando shooting as the WaPo headline made it sound.

But, seriously, he has the thinnest skin ever.

6/13/2016 4:49:37 PM

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That WaPo headline was pretty terrible. You shouldn't have to resort to that kind of bullshit when Trump gives plenty of bat shit crazy quotes on his on.

6/13/2016 4:52:35 PM

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But then he says this:
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"Donald Trump said people can figure out for themselves what he mean't when he said Monday morning that "there's something going on" when President Obama talks about Islamic terrorism.

"Well, you know, I'll let people figure that out for themselves Howie," Trump said on the Howie Carr Show. "Cause to be honest with you there certainly doesn't seem to be a lot anger or passion when he – when we want to demand retribution for what happened over the weekend.""


Which seems like "I'm not saying, but I'm saying." It's firing up the base by saying awful non-true things but then being able to deny it and twist what he meant.

He's an asshole but good at media manipulation.

6/13/2016 5:00:24 PM

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I think Donald Trump forgot he is the child of an immigrant.

6/13/2016 8:01:16 PM

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I don't see this latest incident really helping Donald out. All his theories about why it happened didn't pan out, his comments demonizing natural born citizens who have an immigrant parent seems to have irked even republicans I know, and he just comes off as unhinged. His insinuations that Obama is complicit in these attacks don't help either.

I expect he'll drop even further in the polls.

Unfavorability among even republicans is rising:


I think if Hillary can make people believe she won't ban guns, she can snipe some of these votes.

[Edited on June 14, 2016 at 1:28 AM. Reason : ]

6/14/2016 1:20:33 AM

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"I expect he'll drop even further in the polls."


He's going to drop in the polls due to Obama and Warren's endorsements. Not because of this.

6/14/2016 1:28:08 AM

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I think something broke in his brain. His ramblings have intensified since Orlando.

Can he even pass a background check? Mental health evaluation?

6/14/2016 8:15:40 PM

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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Trump is tied for his lowest point ever since last august, seems like Johnson is cannibalizing his votes more than Clinton. there's a weird outlier poll factored in by Bloomberg though, so this could be a blip.

6/14/2016 8:57:14 PM

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Obama pissed

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/politics/obama-pushes-back-against-criticism-over-terrorism-rhetoric/

6/14/2016 9:08:41 PM

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That's the most clear and cogent thing i've seen Obama say in a LOONGG time.

6/14/2016 9:40:03 PM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/15/negative-views-of-donald-trump-just-hit-a-new-high-7-in-10-americans/?postshare=7821465994511230&tid=ss_tw

Trump reaches record high unfavorability ratings, at 70%. Clinton is at 53%.

There's a good break down of numbers there, 90% of Hispanics have an unfavorable view of Trump. Republicans are going to have to work REALLY hard to dig themselves out of this hole in future elections I bet.

6/15/2016 9:44:47 AM

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Time to step up and support Trump, the only conservative candidate.

6/15/2016 10:12:17 AM

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really starting to think they'll pull him out of this election

6/15/2016 11:07:58 AM

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they can't do that

6/15/2016 11:11:22 AM

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He's becoming a political hero

6/15/2016 11:21:01 AM

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Sure they can. The rules committee can unbind delegates or a number of other things.

6/15/2016 11:23:47 AM

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So then who's gonna be the candidate? Ted Cruz?

[Edited on June 15, 2016 at 11:27 AM. Reason : People don't like him probably because he's too much money]

6/15/2016 11:27:14 AM

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^^ i didn't say that from a technical standpoint. it was more about the resulting fallout.

6/15/2016 11:38:15 AM

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I'd agree if his disapproval rating wasn't scraping the 70% mark. Idk, at a certain point, running him in the general does more damage to the party than getting rid of him. He's saying crazier shit every day.

6/15/2016 11:59:28 AM

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If they cast him aside it would do even more damage, particularly in the down ticket races.

6/15/2016 12:01:04 PM

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My hope is he goes so far off the rails before the convention that they do something to get rid of him (and not replace him with Cruz) but I doubt it will happen. They are probably just going to try and distance themselves from him and hope they can come up with a halfway competent candidate in four years.

6/15/2016 12:03:07 PM

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^i was about to post the same thing. If they aren't willing to throw their full weight behind the nominee, like Obama has, they're accepting a loss.

6/15/2016 12:04:37 PM

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All problems are gonna get solved at the convention I guess.

6/15/2016 12:11:26 PM

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Whats the difference between john mccain and donald trump? Trump owns his words.


They both said something republican voters were thinking but mccain realized he "misspoke" by actually saying what he meant instead of using the dog whistle.

6/16/2016 10:32:07 PM

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I am still waiting to see who Trump's running mate is. Surely he cannot pick someone connected to the establishment. If he won the presidency, he would just end up in a scenario where both Democrats _and_ Republicans want to impeach him. And I wonder, perhaps, if that is the current Republican end game.

6/17/2016 11:17:43 AM

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I enjoyed his speeches given this week to the South. But his words is hilarious: I want you guys win, and win, and win, until you say: I can't afford it, I want you to stop. But I'm still gonna keep winning.
He can give climax to the audience. He knows where their G-spot is.

6/17/2016 11:38:14 AM

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""If the White House phone rings at 3 a.m.," the video solemnly implores viewers, in a reference to a Hillary Clinton ad from 2008, "could his little hands even pick up the receiver?""


This is pretty great: http://www.npr.org/2016/06/17/482534352/tiny-superpac-trolls-donald-trump-about-his-tiny-hands

6/17/2016 9:58:04 PM

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He just fired Lewandowski because of how shitty he's been doing lately.

6/20/2016 11:11:40 AM

NyM410
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Good lord, has there ever been as big a shitshow as Trump's campaign at this point?

6/20/2016 11:12:26 AM

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It's part of the theater...Trump has marketed himself as a results-driven, take-no-prisoner-in-business type of person.

6/20/2016 11:20:18 AM

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I have been wondering if he is throwing the election and doesn't actually want to be president. Play the, betrayed by the establishment card and vow to fight! Even thought it guarantees failure.

6/20/2016 11:27:36 AM

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^yeah if he wanted the Hildabeast to win would he being doing anything differently?

6/20/2016 12:40:15 PM

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Losing the election isn't failure. Failure is losing the election in such an embarrassing way that the campaign can't be converted into an ongoing revenue stream.

6/20/2016 1:21:18 PM

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If Palin could turn being a right-wing election loser into a living, trump should be able to make money off of this, but I can't imagine this doesn't hurt trumps most valuable asset-- his brand.

I think trump really wants to be president though and thought his half-assed thoughts and ideas would be good enough. I used to think trump was somewhat intelligent but he's the worst kind of idiot-- he doesn't know he's an idiot. At least Bush recognized he wasn't the smartest person in the room.

6/20/2016 2:12:38 PM

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^^

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/donald-trump-tv-network

6/20/2016 4:09:32 PM

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^ lol

Palin was able to turn losing into a living because her endorsements and fundraising had value after the election. I don't see Trump being in that position. Who would want a Trump endorsement? He isn't going to work as a fundraiser (he can barely bring himself to fundraise for his own campaign) and he doesn't have networks to do that sort of work for him.

Isn't Trump's base made up of economically disadvantaged white males? Who would pay to advertise on a network with that target demographic? Maybe Trump will sell ad spots, then declare bankruptcy and fold the network before having to actually do anything.

6/20/2016 7:35:25 PM

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he has less than $1.3M cash on hand as the end of May. 1 in 5 dollars spent has gone back in to his pocket or those of his kids. he's got zero - literally zero - dollars in TV spend. and he spends all of his rally time talking about primary victories from 3 months ago

this is the leader the GOP didn't want, but deserved

6/20/2016 10:47:49 PM

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^^

He'd be cashing in on his self-perceived strength of his brand in an area where he doesn't have a shred of expertise, just like various other failed products under the Trump brand. He probably looks at Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch and thinks he's their peer so he's entitled to a network too, all while being enough of a luddite to not realize that now is the wrong time to be getting into cable tv.

6/21/2016 7:40:57 AM

moron
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^^ really seems like he's trying to use the Trump University playbook on the entirety of America.

Literally the style of messaging he uses "you need me more than I need you" is from the playbook.

6/21/2016 7:53:24 AM

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Wow, I just received my first fundraising email from the Trump campaign.

6/21/2016 11:40:49 AM

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trump going to do a bash the hildabeast speech tomorrow. who needs money for ads when you can get on tv for free right

6/21/2016 11:43:41 AM

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Place your bets.

http://gawker.com/how-is-donald-trump-going-to-quit-1782312998

My money's on at the convention, and it's going to be FANTASTIC!

6/21/2016 11:54:31 AM

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Maybe it's my hopeful optimism but I could definitely see him dropping out. If he did it voluntarily and they replaced him with someone like Paul Ryan it could very easily be a landslide victory.

6/21/2016 12:11:53 PM

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trump quitting about as likely as an FBI indictment of clinton

6/21/2016 12:12:27 PM

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He doesn't have a functioning campaign, his numbers are dropping fast, most of the GOP elite despise him, the Koch brothers are not supporting him, his campaign doesn't have any money, and he's not able to raise money because GPO doners don't think he's serious about the general, and he's not setting up any ground game in the battleground states. How exactly do you view this ending, if it's not with Trump quitting at some point?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/21/this-number-in-donald-trumps-very-bad-fundraising-report-will-really-worry-gop-donors/

He's already laid the groundwork for said exit plan: “it would be nice to have full support from people that are in office, full verbal support. With all of that being said, I may go a different route if things don’t happen.”

He's not in this for the general. He's in this for him, as always. Which is why my money is on him quitting at the convention where he launches Trump News.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/donald-trump-tv-network

Lastly there is a long and storied history of Trump quitting shit. There is no similar history of a Clinton being indicted, so your comparison is dumb.

[Edited on June 21, 2016 at 12:34 PM. Reason : V I've told him that many times in person. He doesn't care how dumb he appears.]

6/21/2016 12:24:03 PM

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(beatunc, fyi, you kinda sound like an idiot constantly saying "Hildabeast")

6/21/2016 12:33:07 PM

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^thanks for personal insult.

6/21/2016 12:36:08 PM

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not kinda

6/21/2016 12:36:10 PM

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