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StTexan
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How shooter got in position and was able to take shots makes me think some people on ss gonna get fired. Asleep at the wheel

7/13/2024 11:38:39 PM

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"via Abby Phillip: CNN's John Miller reporting that the FBI has identified the suspect. Name not being released yet, but his sources say the suspect is a 20-year old man from Pennsylvania."


This kid wasn’t even alive during 9/11

He wouldn’t even remember the Obama years

7/13/2024 11:39:40 PM

StTexan
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Wtf is that supposed to mean?(remember obama years) Between that and you saying Biden made a mistake not bringing up jan 6 in his remarks, really have to question your thought process

[Edited on July 13, 2024 at 11:44 PM. Reason : Remember not alive]

7/13/2024 11:42:24 PM

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Just saying he’s really young to have so much hate for trump

It’s just as likely he’s a right wing accelerationist at this point I think

7/14/2024 12:01:13 AM

StTexan
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So kids that remember the Obama years are more naturally inclined to murder Trump or what?

[Edited on July 14, 2024 at 12:25 AM. Reason : \/ aint that the mf'ing truth]

7/14/2024 12:09:36 AM

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"WATCH: New video shows people trying to warn police before gunman opened fire at Trump rally"


It definitely has audio of people trying to warn police, but doesn't show much of anything

7/14/2024 12:24:11 AM

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^^
There’s a lot more reasons to hate trump if you were alive and conscious then, yeah

shooters name is leaked, the daily beast is saying it matches someone who’s a registered republican
https://www.threads.net/@meidastouch/post/C9Y68qAgQGr/?xmt=AQGzhqM2CauqV1YqogMEqHnNKrQYimuECIMFn7NzIDWx3g

7/14/2024 12:29:59 AM

StTexan
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I feel like that kind of justification for violence is what Palestinians use to kill innocent israelis

7/14/2024 12:45:03 AM

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told you it was a Nikki Haley supporter

jk, probably just an anti-government nut

7/14/2024 12:52:32 AM

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^^I don’t see what connection you’re trying to draw there, not sure how that’s justifying violence.

Historically if the justice system fails to hold trump accountable for Jan 6 then violence would be justified and credible, but that process hasn’t run its course yet. This is the sad reality of being in the middle of a constitutional crisis. When congress failed to do their job on charging trump from his impeachment, the whole system is knocked off kilter to where we’re now expecting the regular justice system to use a loophole to hold trump accountable.

We’re seeing now the result of that crisis, and we’ll continue to see weird stuff happening until that crisis is resolved somehow.

[Edited on July 14, 2024 at 12:57 AM. Reason : ]

7/14/2024 12:56:53 AM

StTexan
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To hate and to kill are light years away. Clearly this dude was fucked up

7/14/2024 1:16:42 AM

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"God protected him! /s"

I see the /s, but wonder why God didn't see the need to protect spectators? Only a felonious rapist.

7/14/2024 6:38:32 AM

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Young republican much less likely to be a 'never trump' republican. Would have registered to Trump's party

7/14/2024 8:16:03 AM

The Coz
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But also gave a small donation through ActBlue on Biden's Inauguration Day. Of course, Trump has also funded Democratic candidates.

As much as I would like to go with the registered Republican narrative, the PA voter registration website doesn't display registration changes, only current registration, so there are a lot of possibilities including changing affiliation to vote for Haley to try to stop Trump.

7/14/2024 8:37:16 AM

rwoody
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Stole from reddit so massive cup full of salt:
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"Other outlets are reporting that the donation was made January 20, 2021 when he was 17 and that he didn’t register as a Republican until he was 18 in September 2021. He is listed as active as a Republican in November 2022 as well. "

7/14/2024 9:20:31 AM

moron
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^ that ActBlue wasn’t him, it was likely his grandpa with the same name. But true that voter registration isn’t final.

Does this whole thing change the calculus of if Biden should step down though…. Stable and boring might sell better.

7/14/2024 9:21:30 AM

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Yeah, it would be somewhat rare for a person so young to be giving financially to political causes, particularly before being of legal voting age, if that is even possible (just checked -- you must be 18 to make a contribution to a politician or PAC).

I think the heat on Biden stepping down is off (even though he probably still should do so). The topic of conversation has shifted. What they need now is for Biden to appear Presidential and to be a voice of reason and calm. The RNC will almost certainly be a shitshow of extreme rhetoric. I mean, it would have been before, but it will be especially so now. If Trump says a few more crazy things about his enemies and vilifies certain groups, it could backfire.

But he'll have the momentum from the "they tried to kill our guy" crowd.

7/14/2024 9:53:45 AM

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It’s kind of a shame because biden had just stepped up the shit talking about trump big time, calling him a rapist and making fun of his idiotic shark vs electrocution shit, will probably not be bringing those back up for a little while

7/14/2024 9:59:53 AM

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Yeah, it's a shame. But, the appearance of being a uniter and a steady and experienced hand through turbulent times could be arguably more effective. If people haven't already formed strong opinions about Trump by now, they're not paying any attention, and a political talking point by his rival seems unlikely to be the tipping point. Save it for closer to the election. Trump will likely add a lot more insane shit before then.

7/14/2024 10:07:24 AM

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"God protected him! /s"


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"Donald Trump posted on his Truth Social platform again this morning after surviving an assassination attempt at his rally yesterday.

"It was God alone who prevented the unthinkable from happening," Trump said of the shooting, which left at least one attendee dead and two critically wounded. "We will FEAR NOT.""

There you go.

7/14/2024 11:32:58 AM

rwoody
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Of course one dead and two critically wounded isn't unthinkable to him

7/14/2024 12:05:05 PM

rwoody
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Also ^x4

7/14/2024 12:07:27 PM

moron
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“One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?””

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013:2-4&version=NIV

7/14/2024 12:31:45 PM

moron
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^^^
Democrats should name and honor that victim

7/14/2024 12:37:41 PM

The Coz
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^^^Thanks for the correction. My review of the Google search results was too hasty. So, how can we know who it was with any confidence?

^^But the wound never appeared fatal?

Check out Isaiah 30:25 in the context of 9/11 if we're playing this game.

7/14/2024 1:02:39 PM

rwoody
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I would've thought the same thing, just saw the other info today. Freedom of speech with money or something like citizens united

7/14/2024 1:26:55 PM

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^
Half an inch from his brain matter is nearly fatal IMO

Although there’s mixed reporting that it was a piece of shattered debris that hit him. Kinda makes more sense when you look at the pics. His ears don’t stick out enough that a bullet would only go through the top part

7/14/2024 1:27:50 PM

rwoody
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Like above, this claims the actblue is somebody else
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1812543831889313897

7/14/2024 3:40:43 PM

The Coz
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PWNT!

7/14/2024 5:08:09 PM

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^^National news outlets seem to have reported shooter's donation as if it is verified fact. Not sure what to think.

https://x.com/AricToler/status/1812570773334217208

ZIP code 15102 does seem to be specific to Bethel Park, PA.

7/14/2024 6:24:19 PM

moron
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I don’t think trump being hit with a bullet is a fact either

7/14/2024 7:02:50 PM

The Coz
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I still think facts are important. Especially for when I get stuck arguing with MAGA coworkers.

7/14/2024 7:09:17 PM

moron
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https://www.threads.net/@meidastouch/post/C9a2_h6xT9K/?xmt=AQGzQeLiUhgjAJHgKKNltnHcKRo2dlKhi1R0B4BzmwEV_w

People around trump hit with debris. Seems unlikely trump grazed a bullet.

7/14/2024 7:10:28 PM

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It’s starting to seem to me like this was a failed mass shooting and not an assassination attempt. I wouldn’t be surprised if trump wasn’t the target. We’ll see I guess as they investigate more…

7/14/2024 7:35:08 PM

The Coz
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Getting nicked by a piece of plastic is not as dramatic-sounding as having a hole shot through your ear, though.

We need to confine to build the myth of the strongman.

Some might even say the Übermensch.

7/14/2024 7:38:13 PM

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^^^^ have you ever actually had any success by using facts with MAGAs? They just either don't believe it, or respond with some made-up shit. Or both.

7/14/2024 8:15:29 PM

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^^confine = continue. Missed my edit window.

^No, not really. But I don't want to contribute to the dissemination of misinformation. I can't control what they do or say, but I can control what I do or say, and don't need to propagate lies or falsehoods. The most common tactic when confronted with the real facts is to quickly move on to the next of an endless list of conspiracy theories and grievances. It's quite frustrating.

7/14/2024 8:27:38 PM

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Stupid gun fetishizing idiot republicans who have no actual genuine support for the rights will be happy to get rid of them to defend their king while their dumbass supporters do that. the same way NRA supported gun control against black people.

sit around and chirp for your rights to be taken away as your last act against the police committing brutality and an emerging dictator to make a jibe against republicans who don't care about guns anyway beyond their elections... lmao

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no. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgybgEKHHI&t=2s. ask them what their god reagan did

[Edited on July 15, 2024 at 7:09 AM. Reason : 1]

7/15/2024 6:59:54 AM

The Coz
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Trump knows something about how things can drag out in the courts. He's usually the one actively causing it.

7/15/2024 7:25:05 AM

emnsk
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https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1812551674705195066

lunacy

[Edited on July 15, 2024 at 7:28 AM. Reason : 1]

7/15/2024 7:27:42 AM

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I see she really took the message about dialing back the divisive and escalatory rhetoric to heart.

With the voters of north Georgia being how they are and the media amplification of what this woman has to say, I feel like we'll be dealing with this person for decades. Unless Congress takes steps to remove her like they eventually did with George Santos.

7/15/2024 7:45:19 AM

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Is Reagan now considered a false prophet in the Church of Trump?

7/15/2024 7:58:45 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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"It’s just as likely he’s a right wing accelerationist at this point I think"


I've been wondering if the shooter could have been aligned with the Boogaloo Boi movement.

7/15/2024 8:15:47 AM

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Is Reagan now considered a false prophet in the Church of Trump?"


Nah. They just delude thrmselves by cherry-picking this handful of things to support what they’ve already as y decided, and ignore the rest. Much like how most people (and particularly this crowd) do with, say, Jesus. It’s been that way since Trump came on the scene.probably was worse before—now they’re seemingly less nostalgic for Reagan and more accepting of Trump for what he is.

7/15/2024 9:33:38 AM

marko
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At this point, he's whatever they want him to be in their hearts.

7/15/2024 11:53:42 AM

thegoodlife3
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he’s their God King and they are absolutely giddy over the prospect of unchecked power/retribution

7/15/2024 12:39:01 PM

moron
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Rumor mill is saying jd Vance as vp pick

So basically Peter thiel and Elon musk are going to be President while trump just golfs all day, if trump wins

7/15/2024 1:55:14 PM

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7/15/2024 2:18:44 PM

moron
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Good article about what the emerging trumpist domestic policy could look like. Basically white supremacist technocracy

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-populism/the-rise-of-the-thielists

7/15/2024 2:54:46 PM

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JD Vance is going to be vice president. What a world!

7/15/2024 3:11:33 PM

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