^ Think of it this way, they're trying to save you money on ammo.

12/15/2012 8:16:21 PM

Tried to buy a handgun today at the show. My purchase permit was issued in 2008 in Wake county. The address on the permit doesn't match my driver's license but I still reside in Wake county. My driver's license lists my current address (in Wake county).

The sheriff I spoke to at the show said I was fine and so did another vendor. The vendor I was buying from refused to sell me the gun. So, they have every right to set their own rules for sales....so I'm not mad at them.....but who is right?

12/15/2012 9:03:49 PM

The seller that doesn't want to get reamed by the sherrif he has to assume would hold him to the letter of the law.

12/15/2012 10:15:19 PM

http://www.kgw.com/news/Clackamas-man-armed-confronts-mall-shooter-183593571.html

Why is this not getting media attention?

12/16/2012 6:34:26 PM

the media doesn't like to paint gun owners in a good light

12/16/2012 6:38:32 PM

I plan on buying another Saiga 12 next week up at Fuquay Gun while I'm back home in NC.

Should I buy ARs, too, in case we get another ban, or will I be totally fine no matter what happens if I just buy 2-3 stripped lowers and a pile of 30-round mags?


Also, I want to build one lightweight carbine, maybe even with a polymer receiver (prob just lower). Bushmaster has an inexpensive full polymer carbine that is INSANELY light, but some of the reviews aren't good.

The other, I'm thinking about an accurate, floated-barrel, full-size AR chambered in something bigger so I can hunt with it...maybe 6.5 Grendel. Only problem is, it looks like only a couple of manufacturers build anything for the Grendel so far.

12/16/2012 7:10:24 PM

6.8 SPC

they should've called it .270 Short

12/16/2012 7:48:09 PM

It would be cheaper to shoot 308 than 6.8SPC

12/16/2012 8:26:18 PM

you could buy a pile of 6.8 with the money you'd save by going AR-15 instead of AR-10

[Edited on December 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM. Reason : i thought his goal was to get a deer cartridge in an AR-15]

12/16/2012 8:36:14 PM

6.8 SPC is the way to go for deer

Buy a couple stripped lowers if you can find them, and some pmags. Buy any high capacity magazines for guns you one day hope to own.

12/16/2012 9:12:17 PM

What would possess one to build a 6.8 SPC over a 6.5 Grendel, though? The Grendel is pretty much superior in every way, from what I can gather.

[Edited on December 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on December 16, 2012 at 9:21 PM. Reason : ]

12/16/2012 9:19:41 PM

Quote :

"Only problem is, it looks like only a couple of manufacturers build anything for the Grendel so far."

[Edited on December 16, 2012 at 9:37 PM. Reason : but yeah, 6.5 bullets have such great BCs. why not go all out and build an AR-10 in .260 rem?]

12/16/2012 9:32:09 PM

because i don't want a big-ass AR-10.

12/16/2012 9:42:28 PM

i don't blame you

the only other options i can think of are .243 WSSM and .30 Rem.

12/16/2012 9:47:57 PM

^The first rifle I ever shot was a .243 WSSM. The scope hit me in the forehead...but I killed the groundhog at 200yrds.

12/16/2012 9:52:12 PM

these are all handloading affairs imo

12/16/2012 9:56:45 PM

Start loading up:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/16/feinstein-to-introduce-assault-weapons-ban-bill/

12/16/2012 10:12:08 PM

Time to call some representatives.

Shitty.

12/16/2012 10:24:21 PM

that worthless old cunt proposes this shit all the time. always dies.

[Edited on December 16, 2012 at 10:33 PM. Reason : because politicians know gun nuts vote]

12/16/2012 10:30:38 PM

haha, Feinstein has got to be on the NRA payroll. She probably sells 10x more guns than anyone else in America.

12/16/2012 10:40:06 PM

Quote :

"Tried to buy a handgun today at the show. My purchase permit was issued in 2008 in Wake county. The address on the permit doesn't match my driver's license but I still reside in Wake county. My driver's license lists my current address (in Wake county). The sheriff I spoke to at the show said I was fine and so did another vendor. The vendor I was buying from refused to sell me the gun. So, they have every right to set their own rules for sales....so I'm not mad at them.....but who is right?"

If your addresses don't match, they're not supposed to sell to you. Anytime you move, you're required to update the address with the Sheriff's office and get a change of address card to keep with your permit.

NCGS 14-415.11d

[Edited on December 17, 2012 at 10:20 AM. Reason : .]

12/17/2012 10:20:12 AM

does that apply to purchase permits as well? i knew it applied to CHP.

12/17/2012 10:21:46 AM

There's nothing that I've found or ever heard that says it has to match on a buying permit. I've used a few permits and my address has matched only once.

12/17/2012 11:00:07 AM

That particular statute does not apply to purchase permits, but I don't know if there's another one that would. Probably need to check with the sheriff.

Edit: Just saw he mentioned purchase permit in the original post, so I guess that doesn't apply at all. It's been so long since I've dealt with those, I forgot they even put your address on them.

[Edited on December 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM. Reason : .]

12/17/2012 11:48:45 AM

Just the transfer form you fill out has to match your ppp & your id

12/17/2012 3:01:19 PM

Quote :

"Democratic Sen. Frank Lautenberg plans to reintroduce legislation in the next Congress that would prohibit the sale of high-capacity magazines, his office confirmed Monday."

12/17/2012 4:04:09 PM

Quote :

"^ Think of it this way, they're trying to save you money on ammo. "

I can reload .40 S&W cheaper than I can buy factory 9mm

12/17/2012 7:28:33 PM

o/

12/17/2012 9:00:09 PM

Just bought a 42-rd AR promag, and a 10-rd Saiga 12 promag.

At the moment, I own neither an AR nor a Saiga.

12/17/2012 9:22:26 PM

i bought three 30s and four 20s this week. all GI contract mags. i really prefer the 20s. i store my ammo in 7 pocket bandoleers, so it works well.

[Edited on December 17, 2012 at 9:33 PM. Reason : and i believe my wife ordered two 30 rd pmags and two 20 rd pmags for me. xmas or bday ]

[Edited on December 17, 2012 at 9:34 PM. Reason : y'all find me a decent 16" midlength barrel in stock]

12/17/2012 9:31:58 PM

O7

12/17/2012 9:54:47 PM

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2267

These Rainier Arms Select Series barrels are great. They also guarantee sub-MOA accuracy out of them.

12/17/2012 9:57:06 PM

I've heard the WOA barrels are just as good FWIW. Can't go wrong with either though.

12/17/2012 10:04:47 PM

i was looking something like this:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/990444/daniel-defense-barrel-ar-15-556x45mm-nato-lightweight-contour-mid-length-gas-port-1-in-7-twist-16-hammer-forged-chrome-lined-chrome-moly-matte-pre-ban

need a lightweight or pencil. whatever you call it.

[Edited on December 17, 2012 at 10:15 PM. Reason : wanted an FN from PSA]

12/17/2012 10:15:10 PM

That'll do if you're looking for pencil profile. Only other pencil profile maker I know is PSA and they're out of stock

Don't forget you'll need a 0.625 gas block for that barrel, not the standard .750"

12/17/2012 10:23:33 PM

ok, thanks. how's that price?

12/17/2012 10:27:31 PM

Brows had a Daniel defense 16" midlength pencil in stock for $260.
Free shipping today as well

12/17/2012 10:28:56 PM

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/barrel-parts/rifle-barrels/ar-15-m16-hammer-forged-barrels-prod41976.aspx

Use coupon code DV2 or DSR for free shipping

12/17/2012 10:34:19 PM

what would y'all do for an upper? i've got a doublestar stripped lower that's been sitting around for a year i think. gonna go ahead and star collecting the rest of the parts.

12/17/2012 10:36:51 PM

Upper receiver? If money isn't an issue, go Vltor MUR. A bit stiffer and I like the look. I have one on my Noveske.

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=461

If money is an issue, get whatever is cheapest. The forged upper receivers are pretty much all the same.

12/17/2012 10:39:20 PM

yeah, just a basic upper receiver. nothing fancy.

12/17/2012 10:40:58 PM

fuck it, i'm just gonna wait for this to settle down. i'll keep an eye on the classifieds forums and pick up what parts i can. shit's out of control.

12/17/2012 10:54:29 PM

I'm looking for a deal on .40 S&W Ammo.

Looking at getting 500-1000 rnds of .40 S&W. I prefer Federal, CCI, or Blazer brands. 165gr or 180gr flat nose jacketed. Local, I can get 1000 for $330+tax. Cheapest shipped is $299.xx for 1000 from PSA.

I'm hoping for some deals come around the new year. Anyone else know of anything?

12/17/2012 10:55:18 PM

Found that pencil DD barrel for $236

http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/DD-9082.aspx

12/17/2012 11:06:13 PM

gonna talk tomorrow to a local FFL and probably order a couple of LW-15 complete AR lowers.

http://www.lw15.com


and then what lower should I order for a hotter caliber AR built with accuracy in mind? Does it matter, or is a lower a lower?

[Edited on December 17, 2012 at 11:07 PM. Reason : ]

12/17/2012 11:06:30 PM

that's the carbine length. midlength is ~$260 on that site. i'm gonna go ahead and order the middy from brownells.

[Edited on December 17, 2012 at 11:09 PM. Reason : lower is a lower. put a good trigger in it.]

12/17/2012 11:08:26 PM

http://www.del-ton.com/AR_15_Upper_p/ur1022.htm

how about this?

12/17/2012 11:21:32 PM

Are you looking for just a barrel or complete upper?
I picked up a spikes complete upper. 16". With bcg and ch for $500 shipped from aim surplus. Came with magpul handguard.

Aim had/has decent deals that are in stock.

Ar15 classifieds Also has tons of crap if used works for you

12/18/2012 12:31:28 AM

Cerberus to sell freedom group. Hopefully some company with a quality mindset picks it up...

12/18/2012 8:01:56 AM

^^i ended up getting the 16" midlength lightweight profile daniel defense barrel and the del-ton upper receiver. i think the rest of the parts will be pretty easy to get ahold of

12/18/2012 8:21:31 AM