hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Cole Motherfucking Nigro 2/4/2015 11:28:00 AM |
arcane mind Veteran 135 Posts user info edit post |
Unsurprisingly, it looks like many of these guys will have to redshirt by default. Some of them will have to put on 20, 30, 40+ lbs in the weight room before they can be put on the field. The RBs seem to be the exception, but we are stacked there now, so most will get redshirts anyway.
Edit: DTs and Roseboro other exceptions, but the OL all need to to put on a ton of weight or they'll get pushed around like they aren't even there. 6'7" - heck yeah! 260 lb - woah buddy, lets add ~50 lbs to that...
[Edited on February 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM. Reason : .] 2/4/2015 11:30:03 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
That's one Cole Nigro 2/4/2015 11:30:28 AM |
Bullet All American 28421 Posts user info edit post |
^^Well yeah, that's common, especially the linemen.
But I'd be surprised if more than one of our three new RBs is redshirted (Gallaspy, Frasier and Hines) 2/4/2015 11:33:02 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
new favorite Nigro right there. 2/4/2015 11:33:07 AM |
Bullet All American 28421 Posts user info edit post |
His name is Nigro!!!!
I assume he's a walk-on? 2/4/2015 11:34:37 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on February 4, 2015 at 11:36 AM. Reason : seriously it's like when I found out terrance oglesby was white]
2/4/2015 11:36:07 AM |
arcane mind Veteran 135 Posts user info edit post |
I won't be surprised if they move Dayes to WR, since he is so good with routes, hands, and moving in space. RBs will be Thornton, possibly still Dayes and 1 FR maybe 2 if Dayes moves to WR. 2/4/2015 11:36:12 AM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
Just looking a the ESPN site and wondering how in the hell UNC recruited so many 4* players.
we also dropped from #27 to #32 recruiting class overnight 2/4/2015 11:36:58 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Frazier is most likely of the rbs to redshirt. Gallaspy enrolled in January which helps him, and Hines will probably be a slot wr and kick returner. 2/4/2015 11:38:28 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Quote : | "Lose to Wake last night, but we can brag about the ACC's 5th best recruiting class today. " |
2/4/2015 11:42:25 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^funny you put it that way. Dude apparently plays LF for his high school baseball team. A 6'1 300+ lb left fielder. lol" |
Dude is actually good too, hit .490 last year. Amazing for someone that weighs 330-340. I think his 40 time was 5.2 seconds which is another surprising stat.2/4/2015 11:46:41 AM |
arcane mind Veteran 135 Posts user info edit post |
http://youtu.be/tS2l-guuNwM?t=24s Holy cow, the speed Roseboro shows at 280+ lbs outrunning DBs
he and the RBs are clearly the cream of this class 2/4/2015 11:48:49 AM |
arcane mind Veteran 135 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^funny you put it that way. Dude apparently plays LF for his high school baseball team. A 6'1 300+ lb left fielder. lo l" |
Quote : | " Dude is actually good too, hit .490 last year. Amazing for someone that weighs 330-340. I think his 40 time was 5.2 seconds which is another surprising stat." |
As long as he spends the spring and summer working with the football team and not doing minor league baseball.
[Edited on February 4, 2015 at 11:56 AM. Reason : .]
[Edited on February 4, 2015 at 11:56 AM. Reason : ..]2/4/2015 11:55:36 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
2/4/2015 12:09:58 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Some of them will have to put on 20, 30, 40+ lbs in the weight room before they can be put on the field." |
This is a great thing. We're finally getting enough depth where we don't have to start these guys out of need. We'll definitely have a few of the guys playing from week 1 though, like Hines and Roseboro. Typically big-time programs aren't starting true freshman at OT anyway.2/4/2015 12:37:57 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Chanandler Bong? 2/4/2015 12:40:19 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
We are stocking up on amazingly athletic players. Really excited to see what these kids can do in a few years. Hope the Brandon Barnes days are over. 2/4/2015 12:47:13 PM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This Bryant guy is an absolute animal on film. It doesn't even look fair. He had 2.5 sacks in the Shrine Bowl and was said to be virtually unblockable." |
Watch some film and he's as good as advertised. Very fast and explosive for his size, and even saw him do a couple of nice runs in the highlights. Imagine tackling a 300+ lb running back!2/4/2015 1:10:01 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just stoked we are trying to "build a fence" around the state 2/4/2015 1:36:31 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I mean...we're definitely trying to, but things aren't looking too good for next year. Strong NC class and the big boys are already starting to poach the best guys. We've got our work cut out for us next year if we're going to get close to what we did in-state this year.
Regardless, I like what our coaches are doing. 2/4/2015 1:40:52 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
regarding redshirting, we were also pretty lucky last year in terms of injuries, so there could be an RB injury or two during the season or even in the offseason that increases the roles of everyone else 2/4/2015 2:44:41 PM |
KyleAtState All American 1679 Posts user info edit post |
Walk-On? Cole Nigro, LB (Raleigh, Sanderson) Chandler Belk, WR (Winston-Salem, Reagan) Duncan Musselwhite, LS (New Bern) Jordan Dawson, QB (Cary) (Legacy)
Gray Shirts Kyle Bambard, K A.J. Cole, P
Mid-year Enrollee Ford Howell, LB
Enrolled 01. Darian Roseboro, DL 02. Reggie Gallaspy, RB 03. TJ McCoy, OL 04. Freddie Phillips, DB 05. Riley Nicholson, LB 06. James Smith-Williams, LB
Letters In 07. Quentez Johnson, DT 08. Johnny Frasier, RB 09. Jakobi Myers, QB 10. Philip Walton, OT 11. Tyrone Riley, DL 12. Aaron Wiltz, OL 13. Tyler Griffiths, LS 14. Emanuel McGirt, OL 15. Eurndraus Bryant, DL 16. Vernon Grier, WR 17. Freddie Simmons, WR 18. Brian Sessoms, WR 19. Jarius Morhead, DB 20. Nyheim Hines, WR 21. Emmanuel Olenga, DE 22. Daris Workman, OL 2/4/2015 2:59:33 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
YALL = BALLER 2/4/2015 3:07:51 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
One of my good friends coaches Princeton High and RAVES about Johnny Frasier. Nick Saban even visited him last month... 2/4/2015 3:18:56 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
tell us more 2/4/2015 3:19:20 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
I can confirm this.
Source: I'm Nick Saban 2/4/2015 3:25:35 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Please please please let Cole Nigro become a starter some day. I gotta hear how announcers handle his name. 2/4/2015 3:45:48 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
for the record, Doeren pronounced Nigro with a long i, but don't let that ruin things for you 2/4/2015 3:49:34 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
Official proof. http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/01/alabama_johnny_frasier.html (he ended up canceling the visit three days later)
pic.
I'm not a SOURCES guy unless it is true. haha 2/4/2015 3:58:17 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
That's my favorite tie. 2/4/2015 4:09:47 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^ Hey Nick, how do you feel when people call you Nick Satan? 2/4/2015 4:29:15 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
Nick, why did you keep this visit secret from everyone except MOODY and this Alabama newspaper that published their article three weeks ago? 2/4/2015 4:31:27 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
LOL. I didn't say it was secret. Just saying that the big dogs were looking into one of our new RBs. I'm sure it was covered previously, but I haven't been reading. 2/4/2015 4:33:33 PM |
Bullet All American 28421 Posts user info edit post |
Not NC State related but interesting: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2325565-cordell-broadus-to-ucla-snoop-doggs-4-star-wr-son-commits-to-bruins 2/4/2015 4:42:39 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
First time since 2002 and 2003 that we've put together back to back top 40 classes (Rivals rankings). That's kinda surprising to me. 2/4/2015 5:27:33 PM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
Not to play devil's advocate because I do understand that TOB was awful at recruiting, but everyone is ooooohhhhhing and aaaaaahhhhhing over our class and it is the seventh best in the conference and maybe not even the best in the state. Hardly anything to write home about IMO 2/4/2015 9:41:37 PM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
Your knowledge in this subject must be lacking....also you are taking the ranking of a site known to be the worst of its kind in the realm of recruiting.
We havent had a year like this since Amato. Gtfo
[Edited on February 4, 2015 at 10:36 PM. Reason : .] 2/4/2015 10:08:20 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
^this.
Need > Stahhhhhs 2/4/2015 10:09:33 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
Ratings-wise, I'll agree that it sometimes doesn't look amazing (depending on service), so I can kinda see where he's coming from. I was looking at PP's signing day central page (http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/story/1509961-signing-day-central?s=178) today and was kinda surprised with how low some of our guys are in the positional ratings.
That said, though, it sounds like our staff got a lot of the guys they really wanted, and I think a lot of us are banking on them having similar success to what they had in last year's class in terms of identifying guys that are a good fit at State and often under the radar recruits (Bo Hines, Tony Adams, Jaylen Samuels, BJ Hill, Airius Moore, etc.). I think most of those guys were 3 stars (Samuels and Moore were 2s, iirc) but were solid contributors as freshmen, while we're still waiting to see what some of the more highly regarded guys (Street, McClendon, Richardson, etc.) can really do.
Also, like dmspack said, this is the best (ratings-wise) we've done in terms of stacking two talented classes back-to-back in over a decade, so there is some reason to believe that we have some momentum. Don't forget that Doeren couldn't really even sell these kids on a winning program until the last month or so of the season, so it's pretty impressive we could get this kind of haul coming off a 3-9 (0-8) record.
tl;dr: go pack 2/4/2015 10:25:50 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
too late to edit, but just saw this
2/4/2015 11:20:06 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
To be fair we HAVE had a year better than this since Amato. The year we landed Glennon, Terrell Manning, RJ Mattes, our class was ranked #28 in the nation and had 5 4* commits.
Actually ranking wise, this is the 3rd best class since Amato left. 2008 - #28 2014 - #26 2015 - #38 2009 - #39
So if you really look at it: TOB's first 2 classes: #28, #39 DD's first 2 classes: #26, #38
We're about the same level of recruiting that TOB had his first 2 years, it's really all about the 3rd and 4th year. It's easy to sale a new program with plenty of PT and being an "up and comer". But the difference is you have to prove that you can actually continue to recruit when you can't promise PT and your team is consistently winning and improving.
That being said, DD has been killing it already for 2016 recruiting, so hopefully he'll be able to keep the momentum going on the field. 2/5/2015 10:06:54 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/12280668/florida-state-seminoles-lead-acc-recruiting-classes
can anyone post. plz 2/5/2015 3:32:33 PM |
Pook New Recruit 30 Posts user info edit post |
7. NC State Wolfpack National rank: 33 The Wolfpack are in the top 40 with a class headlined by ESPN 300s Johnny Frasier (No. 80), Nyheim Hines (No. 155) and Darian Roseboro (No. 184). Joining them are four-star tackle Emanuel McGirt and three-star running back Reggie Gallaspy from within the state lines. Georgia three-star defensive tackle Quentez Johnson is a key out-of-state grab. Three-star receivers Vernon Grier, Jarius Morehead and Freddie Phillips all bring different skill sets to the position. 2/5/2015 3:40:29 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks for posting.
Quote : | "Three-star receivers Vernon Grier, Jarius Morehead and Freddie Phillips all bring different skill sets to the position." |
ESPN really showing its recruiting knowledge on that one. Morehead and Phillips played both ways in high school, but most of the schools recruiting them (including us) wanted them as DBs. Always possible they could switch down the road, though.
That aside, here's another awesome signing day pic of one of our signees (Philip Walton):
2/5/2015 4:33:25 PM |
Bullet All American 28421 Posts user info edit post |
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/story/1510273-audio-doeren-excited-about-2015-class
Quote : | ""Signing Day is a celebration of a bunch of young men and their family joining our family."
"PACK15 quickly becomes 1PACK1GOAL with the rest of our team."
"You can recruit to create the competition that you like to have on the roster."
"We want to be the best developmental staff with young men."
"We finished our season as strong as anybody in the country with our play."
"In all there were 16 players joining the team in-state. That's something I take a lot of pride in."
"It was our goal, our mission, to keep the best players home. I think we've done everything we can to show that wasn't just lip-service."
"We never quit. There were seven guys in this class committed to somebody else and many of them were in-state players."
"An overall look, we had two Top 100 commits which is the first time since 2005 in a recruiting class."
"We had 12 players in postseason all-star games."
"The three tailbacks we signed (Johnny Frasier, Reggie Gallaspy, and Nyheim Hines) in their high school careers when you add up their yardage rushed for 20,115 yards and 298 touchdowns. Pretty amazing. I'm very excited about what those guys bring to the table."
"Debbie, she is as active an athletic director in recruiting that I've been around."
Doeren on Chandler Belk: Chandler Belk was in our camp last summer and he's one of those guys you can't stop watching. He did a tremendous job at camp.
Doeren on Eurndraus Bryant: Big E was a late pickup for us. We've known about him for a while. He was 6'1.5 and 360 pounds on his visit, we'll get him down to 330. He's a big man and can play both A gaps by himself. We're excited about that.
Doeren on Johnny Frasier: We recruited him for a long time. He has a great family that wanted to be a part of the experience. He made the decision that he wanted to stay home.
Doeren on Reggie Gallaspy: He's already on campus doing great things.
Doeren on Vernon Grier: He's a great young man from a great program.
Doeren on Tyler Griffiths: He may be the most important guy in this deal. We have to replace a senior snapper.
Doeren on Quentez Johnson: Quentez is a great kid... Really focused.
Doeren on Nyheim Hines: Very versatile kid. He can play RB, WR, Returner, punt retuener, and Wildcat. He has five lotto tickets for us.
Doeren on TJ McCoy: He was in our camp... Has great leadership skills, was very competitive.
Doeren on Emanuel on McGirt: He committed to the school down the road and we stayed on him. We didn't feel it was the right fit and he came to his senses.
Doeren on Jakobi Meyers: I think he's one of the biggest steals in the country. We had to battle hard to get this young man.
Doeren on Jarius Morehead: He played a lot of positions for his team. He was the center of attention for Eastern Guilford.
Doeren on Riley Nicholson: He has many options. I felt we had to get this kid in our program. He is tough and could be an early contributor.
Doeren on Cole Nigro: We are excited he's joining us. We have great tradition with local walkons.
Doeren on Emmanuel Olenga: Excited about his upside. He's raw but a great athlete from a neat family. His upside is through the roof.
Doeren on Freddie Phillips: Versatile and does a lot of things... He can play all three of our safety positions.
Doeren on Tyrone Riley: He looks almost identical to Pharoah McKever. He's a long athlete and we are excited to get him.
Doeren on Darian Roseboro: We are excited to get the best defensive player in the state for the 2nd year in a row. He can play early.
Doeren on Brian Sessoms: He had four times under 4.3 in our camp. He has great speed... Can really make plays as a returner too.
Doeren on Freddie Simmons: He is very good after the catch... A long kid who can make plays.
Doeren on James Smith-Williams: He can fly. We are really excited to get him. He's a 4.5 kid who nearly broad jumped 11 feet at camp.
Doeren on Philip Walton: He's raw but he really has a chance. He will have to develop but he has unbelievable tools.
Doeren on Aaron Wiltz: He's tremendously athletic and a great wrestler. Great student who comes from a terrific program.
Doeren on Daris Workman: He was a bball player in high school... He will be here in the summer and is a great athlete with upside." |
2/6/2015 1:10:22 PM |
Bullet All American 28421 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2015/2/5/7985377/college-football-recruiting-rankings-2015-most-improved-classes 2/6/2015 4:30:27 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
thats a little embellished. theyre basically taking the worst of TOB and comparing it to this season
chuck pulled in good recruiting classes and even TOB had success his first couple years before he went into semi-retirement. our "true" recruiting level is probably mid 40s so doeren is doing a good job so far but he's not bringing in sick recruits to some dump like corvallis 2/7/2015 11:02:06 AM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
but it's not like they looked at State specifically and went "oh, let's use the worst of TOB's years," they used the average of last 4 years for all the schools on that list. have our recruiting classes historically been ranked around 55th? no, but we have had some like that very recently and we're still dealing with the effects of that. 2/7/2015 11:15:33 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Exactly. It's a big improvement over recent history for us. Sure, it's a bit skewed because TOB's recruiting was so bad in his last few years. But it's a good class for us regardless 2/7/2015 11:36:12 AM |