gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "His leadership/decisionmaking looks pretty good at the HS level, but you never know how they are going to make the transition to reading college defenses and playing against a college pass rush." |
see D.Evans10/5/2007 9:41:50 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
In fairness, D. Evans has physical limitations that Glennon does not. Glennon is also playing in a much more conventional offense than D. Evans did. 10/5/2007 9:46:19 AM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
^ditto
Some of throws that I have seen Glennon make Evans still can't make. Glennon will be 20 - 30 lbs heavier by the time he ever takes a snap in a game. (likely fall of '10 as a redshirt sophomore) 10/5/2007 10:10:38 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
even though Daniel wasnt an elite QB in regards to recruiting didnt he have some absurd [in a good way] offensive numbers coming straight out of highschool or was that Burke im thinking of 10/5/2007 10:20:05 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
eh, they both had big hs numbers, but yeah you're thinking of evans. 10/5/2007 10:22:26 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, also interesting that burke is now 2nd to evans ... guess they figure beck got his chance and (literally) threw it away. 10/5/2007 10:25:24 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
pretty sure that's b/c beck's hurt. red tom said last sunday that beck will be the starter again when he gets back. 10/5/2007 10:41:57 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
I don't see why that would be the case though.
If DE plays well and we stay in the game or God-forbid win because he controls the offense, why not let him start? 10/5/2007 12:09:02 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
TOB said the he wont lose the starting job b/c of an injury 10/5/2007 1:04:38 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't see why that would be the case though.
If DE plays well and we stay in the game or God-forbid win because he controls the offense, why not let him start?" |
He basically said that the job was Becks and he wouldn't lose it just because he was injured . . . although you can't predict everything and if someone comes in and dominates, then they would likely continue to play. He said it with a reference to Lou Gehrig.10/5/2007 1:17:02 PM |
DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ditto
Some of throws that I have seen Glennon make Evans still can't make. Glennon will be 20 - 30 lbs heavier by the time he ever takes a snap in a game. (likely fall of '10 as a redshirt sophomore)
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im willing to bet that Glennon starts next year. if we are going to have QB's who throw picks and turn the ball over, it might as well be a freshman so he can learn from it.10/5/2007 1:57:22 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "im willing to bet that Glennon starts next year. if we are going to have QB's who throw picks and turn the ball over, it might as well be a freshman so he can learn from it." |
Marcus Stone Justin Burke Mike Glennon is going to start as a freshman
[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 2:41 PM. Reason : ]10/5/2007 2:40:36 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
burke might start just yet ... see if de stinks it up in the first half, and burke steps up in the second. 10/5/2007 2:51:09 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^^ You forgot about Mike Greco 10/5/2007 3:00:23 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i will kiss a donkey's ass on live tv if burke ever starts at nc state.
[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 3:16 PM. Reason : typo.] 10/5/2007 3:07:35 PM |
whtmike2k All American 2504 Posts user info edit post |
shit, now i hope he starts just for that ^ reason 10/5/2007 3:15:08 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Why the Burke dissing?
(And if it's becuase you think Glennon is the next Montana, what if he gets hurt?) 10/5/2007 3:24:43 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
the burke dissing is b/c everything we've seen from burke indicates he's terrible. 10/5/2007 3:30:07 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Two years ago when Brees was starting for SD, Phil looked like shit when he came in for mop-up. 10/5/2007 3:35:54 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
well he hasn't exactly looked spectacular this year either 10/5/2007 3:57:16 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You forgot about Mike Greco" |
dude, packbacker,....Greco isnt even on the team anymore / he plays for USF now
Quote : | "Why the Burke dissing? " |
well, he is 3rd. string
[Edited on October 5, 2007 at 4:17 PM. Reason : wow]10/5/2007 4:17:02 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " dude, packbacker,....Greco isnt even on the team anymore / he plays for USF now " |
I know.... I just remember everyone saying he was going to be so great and start as a freshman, so i added him to the list10/5/2007 4:32:52 PM |
awwwwkenan All American 1432 Posts user info edit post |
actually he plays for UCF 10/5/2007 5:33:22 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Marcus Udell, a 3* CB that originally signed with Alabama two years ago, has said that State is his No. 1 school right now. It would be a good pickup. Do junior college players get a RS year? I think we are the first school interested to offer, but who knows since those profiles aren't updated that often.
http://ncstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=60230&sport=1 http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=2734126
Ht: 6-foot-1 Wt: 195 lbs Forty: 4.4 secs
Schools of Interest NC State Alabama LSU West Virginia Florida Florida State Clemson Ole Miss Mississippi State 10/8/2007 7:59:29 PM |
MikedaWolf All American 777 Posts user info edit post |
Of course we are his #1 choice, everyone is going after this kid! From the looks of all those offers he has got I sure do hope that he picks NCSU 10/10/2007 12:17:41 PM |
Walt Sobchak All American 1189 Posts user info edit post |
^ WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 10/10/2007 12:51:05 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
State was his 2nd choice before he signed with Bama. we will get this guy as long as florida doesn't offer. 10/10/2007 1:03:35 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Don't ever go by the 'yes' or 'no' listing on scout or rivals.
Half of the time it says yes when they don't have a committable offer... the other half of the time it says 'no' when they do have a committable offer. 10/10/2007 2:41:15 PM |
kbncsufan All American 1504 Posts user info edit post |
new rivals 100 was posted recently, and one good thing and one bad thing if you buy into all of these rankings
mike glennon moved up to the number four pure qb spot in the country and is the number 53 overall prospect in the country now; before was 94 so moved up 41 spots: leads me to believe that he will be the starter from day one when he gets here; has a big arm, very tall, needs a little bulk but easy for him b/c he is not known for his running anyway: supposedly was great at the elite 11 qb camp and most put him on ej manuel's level (who is the number one pure qb and going to florida st.)
brandon barnes moved down to number 63 in the rivals 100 and lost his five star rating and is now a four star; still really good but did drop from number 26 on the old rivals 100, down 37 spots
i have watched a lot of film on glennon and he really does appear to have all of the tools; the only tool that you cannot measure on film is his smarts (you can a little but not really) and mental toughness b/c he is just better than most people at the HS level and doesn't have a whole lot to worry about, but overall i really like the kid 10/19/2007 4:03:56 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^ I've heard Glennon is mentally tough until the fans start getting down on him. Like if he starts to play poorly one game and the fans boo him on a play or something, he lets it go to his head. This could mean trouble given our fan base. 10/19/2007 4:12:25 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Is there where we start the 'bad fans' argument again? 10/19/2007 4:28:40 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've heard Glennon is mentally tough until the fans start getting down on him." |
so what you mean to say is that he's not mentally tough.
although i don't know how you could possibly know this about glennon. i highly doubt that he gets booed very often in highschool, seeing as he's a top10 qb in the country and, i believe, hasn't lost yet this season.10/19/2007 4:57:21 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^^ No. I'm just saying we have some pretty vocal fans, myself included, and if you play poorly, we're going to let you hear about it.
^ So yes, I guess in a round-about way I was saying he's not mentally tough. And I am going on hearsay, but my friend knows a player on Glennon's high school team and that is what he and his family told my friend. Take it for what it is.
[Edited on October 19, 2007 at 5:04 PM. Reason : V I'll make a believer out of you yet BOY!] 10/19/2007 5:00:11 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
I wont take it at all then.
cuz i doubt coming from you its worth anything...you havent proven anything as far as sources anyways
i dont believe 10/19/2007 5:01:22 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
It's still real to me, dammit!
[Edited on October 19, 2007 at 5:07 PM. Reason : ] 10/19/2007 5:05:39 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
10/19/2007 5:07:30 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "my friend knows a player on Glennon's high school team and that is what he and his family told my friend." |
solid.10/19/2007 5:16:47 PM |
whtmike2k All American 2504 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "brandon barnes moved down to number 63 in the rivals 100 and lost his five star rating and is now a four star; still really good but did drop from number 26 on the old rivals 100, down 37 spots" |
to be fair, he earned his 5* rating as an ATH, but playing a LOT of RB. this season his team hasn't really needed him as much on offense, he's been playing more slot-receiver, corner & safety. they have 3 other RB's getting the job done who don't have offers to D-1 schools, and the coach is letting them get exposure.
besides, most people are saying barnes proejcts as a safety in college anyway.10/19/2007 6:30:00 PM |
kbncsufan All American 1504 Posts user info edit post |
^true, but now he is just still now a 4* athlete. honestly, i don't care where he plays; we could use his athleticism on the field no matter the position; still a great athlete and i can't wait to get him on campus.
and with glennon, his brother seems to have mental toughness, as he got benched for a true frosh. at virginia tech and then when he got hurt glennon came in and did a great job last week, albeit against duke. not that it means all that much. i do still think though that glennon will be the starter the second he gets here; he has the physical gifts of beck with regards to being able to make all the throws but is smarter, according to film anyway
all this won't matter though without improved o-line play because no play works if you can't block 10/19/2007 8:52:25 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
A lot of people are saying that Glennon will need at least one year in the weight room before he could become the starter. Please Glennon develop into a Matt Ryan, just don't take 3 years to do so.
In regards to Barnes, I think we need to use him just like USC used Reggie Bush. We may be able to hide our o-line's weakness by getting him out into the open field. Run some runs to the wide side of the field with the o-line pulling. Maybe get him on some swing passes out of the backfield, set up some blocks with the WR's and TE and let his speed do the work from there. 10/19/2007 8:59:40 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
We'll need those guys to step up from day one. Our QBs suck ass. Baker will be coming off major knee surgery. All 3 starting LBs are seniors. We'll need help bad. I look for Glennon, Barnes and Manning to get tons of playing time next year, should be solid players by their junior years. 10/19/2007 9:30:16 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, what kind of impact can the 08 class realistically have on football next year? 10/20/2007 9:17:00 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
^^^kinda like what we SHOULD be doing with Blackmon this year 10/20/2007 9:48:07 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously dude, come on10/20/2007 10:00:49 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
how in the fucking hell do so many people spell blackman's name wrong.
it's like 50/50, spelled right/spelled wrong. 10/20/2007 12:04:26 PM |
Sputter All American 4550 Posts user info edit post |
Packpride says we offered this kid, based solely on physical appearance, he may be a better fit at UNC:
10/23/2007 1:31:27 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Jeez, that guy looks like he's from Flashdance.
But I could give a shit, COME ON DOWN 10/23/2007 4:18:53 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
With regard to how will the class of 08 impact next season, the linebackers that hope to arrive in January will be starting from day one barring injury. I can see Irving being the third guy in the LB corp. However, if the two guys don't get here in January, I think Manning will still start from day one but the kid from Shelby won't, but he'll get plenty of snaps as LB has been a killer for us the last 2 seasons. I really don't see anyone other than Barnes getting significant snaps next season, but we'll have to see who TOB gets at the JUCO level, any and all of those guys I'm sure would see serious PT 10/23/2007 4:34:16 PM |
jmpack15 All American 4470 Posts user info edit post |
i hope thats a wrestling uniform 10/23/2007 4:34:57 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
Got a new commitment from a safety in Georgia, Roy Mangram. 2 stars according to Scout but has been offered by South Carolina and Clemson. Also listed Georgia, Georgia Tech and Florida as other schools of interest. Seems like a solid pickup. 10/25/2007 6:57:11 PM |