I'm not sure about Alford. I would prefer someone with a better NCAA record

3/14/2011 1:27:47 AM

this is 5 years ago all over again with half the people on here.

why the hell would Sean Miller leave Arizona for us?

3/14/2011 1:59:41 AM

I seriously wouldnt be surprised to see us end up with someone like Al Skinner

3/14/2011 2:02:07 AM

your lack of faith in our new AD is apparent

Al Skinner? really?

3/14/2011 2:06:05 AM

Someone like Al Skinner. Like.

Plus, I'm sure Yow is a great AD but get real. We're not getting Miller, Barnes, Donovan, etc. It's going to be some mid-major guy who doesn't look like he's blowing the doors off but he'll be ten times better than Lowe, that much is certain.

3/14/2011 7:48:01 AM

After watching the Fab Five last night, I wouldn't mind good ol' Steve Fischer.

3/14/2011 8:41:48 AM

How could Yow leave Bucky off the list?

http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_story/12337401/article-Waters-floats-opinions-of-ACC-basketball?instance=homethirdleft

3/14/2011 8:43:30 AM

When is the job supposed to officially come open? Today or tomorrow?

3/14/2011 8:44:09 AM

i would think today. but i bet we don't hear about it until we have a coach locked up.

3/14/2011 9:23:18 AM

This is NC State. We'll try to steal away Frank Haith or hire Al Skinner or Dave Leitao.

3/14/2011 9:40:17 AM

I'm pretty sure Yow's smart enough to realize 99% of the fan base would stop watching our team completely if we hired Al Fucking Skinner

3/14/2011 9:49:14 AM

P&B acts like Lee Fowler didn't get fired

Hey, you know Lee Folwer got fired right

3/14/2011 9:50:17 AM

Larry Shyatt has good ACC experience.

3/14/2011 9:51:26 AM

HEWITT TO STATE?

LOWE TO GT?

3/14/2011 10:05:14 AM

Larry Shyatt has good ACC experience.

3/14/2011 10:05:29 AM

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" P&B acts like Lee Fowler didn't get fired Hey, you know Lee Folwer got fired right "

yeah ,it's funny.

Herb was fired
Lee Fowler left on his own.

it's like they make up their own history.

3/14/2011 10:07:44 AM

I was just responding to his implying that there's another clownshoes coaching search underway

3/14/2011 10:12:21 AM

You'll have to excuse me for still believing that NC State Shit (tm) is possible.

And Herb left because he couldn't take the heat. I'm not sure what others think.

[Edited on March 14, 2011 at 10:24 AM. Reason : x]

3/14/2011 10:23:50 AM

listen guys, i already pointed out that alford won the mountain west twice. you don't need to keep saying it.

3/14/2011 10:43:05 AM

yall really should've gotten brad brownell before clemson did. 20/20 i know, but that guy is gonna be a handful, i can tell already

3/14/2011 11:11:08 AM

I think we'll see this coaching search handled way different than we're used to...we all may as well just sit back and wait for the surprise announcement one day

3/14/2011 11:27:18 AM

Any other coaches out there with ties to the state floating around that aren't horribly corrupt or on the downside of their careers?

3/14/2011 12:11:56 PM

Don't think there's any guys with ties to NC State or the state of NC that we'll be interested in other than Miller and Brey.

3/14/2011 12:25:17 PM

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"I think we'll see this coaching search handled way different than we're used to...we all may as well just sit back and wait for the surprise announcement one day "

i agree with this.

3/14/2011 12:28:21 PM

i know i should want him, but i'm not very into mike brey.

3/14/2011 12:34:07 PM

raise your hands if you think this search will NOT be handled differently than the past

anyone?

3/14/2011 12:34:59 PM

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"i know i should want him, but i'm not very into mike brey. "

Don't feel bad. I don't want him either, really.

He's been mediocre up to this point and he starts 5 seniors. Don't think he's gotten 'over the hump' as much as he's just got a really really experienced lineup.

I think we could do a lot worse, but he's not really a hire I'd get real excited about. The only think that makes me think he might do alot better here than ND is that 1) ND has much higher academic and admissions standards for athletes and 2) The Big East is brutal

He's in no way on a personal list of mine, but rumor/speculation/conventional wisdom says he'll be on our short list

[Edited on March 14, 2011 at 12:40 PM. Reason : ]

3/14/2011 12:38:01 PM

^^ yeah i don't expect it to be some masterpiece compared to the last one. i think it will certainly be handled better, but in the end i expect to be turned down by miller, brey and maybe another, and then hire someone that no one was expecting.

that is, of course, unless the powers that be have been convinced by the last five years that we're just going to have to overpay someone, and they're honestly willing to do it.

3/14/2011 12:42:12 PM

^^ Brey really has done a lot with very little talent while at ND, I think he's only had one top 25 recruiting class while there. My only concern would be how his success translate to a school where he should theoretically be able to bring in much better talent. I'd much rather take Brey than any mid-major, but I still think we're gonna get Sean Miller.

[Edited on March 14, 2011 at 12:43 PM. Reason : ^^]

3/14/2011 12:42:46 PM

A guy I work withs uncle is Johnny B. from Michigan!

3/14/2011 12:42:46 PM

jeff capel is now available

3/14/2011 12:44:38 PM

Remember the last time an ACC team got a can't-miss coach from Notre Dame...

I would be careful about Miller using us for a raise, especially if they do as well in the tournament as they could. I don't know if he's the sort of person who'd do that, but if he gets to the 2nd weekend, I wouldn't waste my time on him.

I'm a big proponent of mid-major coaches due to the high upside of the investment and the relatively low downside, even if it could mean a couple of years of trouble. Still, there are some safe mid-major investments out there. Guys like Taylor at ODU and Dunphy at Temple have won everywhere up til now and have tournament experience.

3/14/2011 1:01:23 PM

Doherty was hardly a 'can't-miss' coach, I'm pretty sure his one year at ND was his first year as a HC too.

3/14/2011 1:04:35 PM

that's not really the same thing. doherty had been there one year and had an nit finals appearance to show for it. brey has made his share of ncaa appearances, and could do something special this year. yes he got lucky with little hansbrough, but yall could do a lot worse.

3/14/2011 1:04:36 PM

brey would be fine... guys all we need with the talent just the school "name" can pull in is a coach that teaches fundamentals (REBOUNDING, defensive positioning), smart shots, and TO HUSTLE the whole game

that would already be 3 steps/attributes above sidney lowe (god bless the man and his departure)

3/14/2011 1:10:58 PM

Maybe someone can explain why a guy who just finished at the top of the best conference in the country would come to State

3/14/2011 1:11:46 PM

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"I would be careful about Miller using us for a raise, especially if they do as well in the tournament as they could. I don't know if he's the sort of person who'd do that, but if he gets to the 2nd weekend, I wouldn't waste my time on him. "

I've been one of the 'no shot in hell' people with Miller, but the more I read, the more I wonder if we don't have somewhat of a chance. Allegedly, miller is interested in the job. Rumor has it that his wife and his assistants aren't big fans of the desert (And that's not just some shit posted on message boards). If that's true, I think he'll at least consider it.

It makes no sense, and the timing sucks, but if that's true and the wives aren't happy, then maybe we do have a small shot. Something like that wouldn't even come down to money.

I doubt Miller would use us for a raise. Remember, he has a lot of connections and friends at NC State having coached here for 5 years. Archie and Archie's wife are State grads. The also have family in the area ( I believe Archies wife's sister lives in Cary). I don't think it would be the same as Calipari playing us.

With all of this said, even if it were true, it would still be really hard to land miller. Lots of things would have to fall into place for that to happen, but I just don't think it's laughable like I used to

[Edited on March 14, 2011 at 1:17 PM. Reason : ]

3/14/2011 1:13:23 PM

^^ that doesn't equal him being the best coach in the conference though. i'd rate him below calhoun, boeheim (who's overrated in his own right), pitino, and wright. he either leaves this year, or holds out for the dook job

3/14/2011 1:19:09 PM

Who said anything about best coach in the conference. I just don't see what the incentive is for him to leave, unless he thinks ND is gonna tank next year.

And I'm not sure why anyone wants his style of play here. I can't imagine Leslie (who's probably gone anyway), Harrow or Brown being very excited about that hire.

[Edited on March 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM. Reason : lol Boeheim overrated]

3/14/2011 1:21:46 PM

Brey was allegedly campaigning for the job when we hired Lowe.

Long time ACC assistant, plus, who wouldn't want to get the hell out of the BEast?

I do think Brey would take the job. I think he loses all 5 starters after this year.

And yes, the burn offense psucks

[Edited on March 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM. Reason : ]

3/14/2011 1:22:39 PM

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"who wouldn't want to get the hell out of the BEast?"

Great, let's hire the biggest pussy we can find

[Edited on March 14, 2011 at 1:25 PM. Reason : OK, five senior starters, I can see him maybe wanting out]

3/14/2011 1:24:12 PM

well anyone that comes to state better have an ego to take on unc and duke

3/14/2011 1:25:32 PM

Yeah, maybe so. I'm not even sure if I'd consider a coach leaving the Big East as a pussy...just a smart career choice.

There's 'tough conferences' and then there's just a clusterfuck. The Big East really is the latter. I would not want to coach there....especially at a school like ND that is much harder to win at compared to a Cuse or Uconn.

Taking on K and Roy in a weak ACC is much much easier than coaching in the Big East, imo

[Edited on March 14, 2011 at 1:29 PM. Reason : ]

3/14/2011 1:27:02 PM

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"OK, five senior starters, I can see him maybe wanting out"

From what i understand, ND does this really odd. They don't count a 'redshirt' year...so all of these 'seniors' dont exhaust thier eligibility. I think 1 or 2 guys on his team still have 1 more year of eligibility left, but either way, he's going to lose a ton of experience

3/14/2011 1:28:33 PM

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"boeheim (who's overrated in his own right)"

I'd love to hear your explanation for this

3/14/2011 1:28:33 PM

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"holds out for the dook job "

i nearly shit my pants while reading that.

NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.

well, he might hold out for it, but he sure as hell will never get it. remember, Hewitt had GT in the final four one time, too. brey is not a great coach.

3/14/2011 1:29:07 PM

this thread is full of funny (mostly of the unintentional variety)

3/14/2011 1:33:29 PM

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"From what i understand, ND does this really odd. They don't count a 'redshirt' year...so all of these 'seniors' dont exhaust thier eligibility."

Yeah, Notre Dame doesn't assign redshirts. Looks like Hansbrough and Nash are the only two who will exhaust their eligibility this season.

3/14/2011 1:36:20 PM

on miller using us for a raise:

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"I don't know if he's the sort of person who'd do that"

he is a college basketball coach, so he is definitely the sort of person who'd do that.

3/14/2011 1:43:18 PM

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"I'd love to hear your explanation for this"

i probably shouldn't have phrased it like that, i just mean in contrast to the all-time greats. he's a great coach, no doubt, but i always hear him talked about from talking heads like he's in the same league as wooden, k, dean, etc. his teams tend to slump every few years too (NIT vs NCAA), so consistency isn't his strong suit. guy's a hall of famer though, no question

3/14/2011 1:43:57 PM