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"making it a point that she HAD NOT seen it on the news before the detectives came to see her."

I think I would believe her more if she saw him on the news, and then contacted police. Rather than police going from gas station to gas station to see if anyone had seen him, showing her the picture, and then she says it must be him, months later.

Did they address the height discrepancy at all?

[Edited on February 8, 2012 at 5:20 PM. Reason : Sorry Minka, new page!]

2/8/2012 5:19:51 PM

I haven't followed this very closely(except for the worst jurors ever part). So how did the police end up at this gas station?

[Edited on February 9, 2012 at 8:25 AM. Reason : .]

2/9/2012 8:23:58 AM

still hasn't started? everyone else waiting on the link to appear on WRAL?

[Edited on February 9, 2012 at 9:45 AM. Reason : nm its on]

2/9/2012 9:22:53 AM

http://sarasota.wtsp.com/m/news/news/104110-juror-could-face-jail-time-friending-defendant-facebook#bmb=1

2/9/2012 11:46:16 AM

i havent watched today any...what happened?

2/9/2012 1:48:42 PM

Watching the afternoon portion, will go back and watch the morning session to see what the defense asked.

the afternoon has been quite dull, asked the lead investigator questions, most which had no real link to the case or any big AH HA! moments IMO.

2/9/2012 4:13:41 PM

JY had a check for 17K sitting in his desk drawer but couldn't afford to fix the heat in his house?

2/14/2012 3:00:35 PM

it was a retirement check.

2/14/2012 4:58:29 PM

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10726759/

Quote :

"Blood wasn't found outside Young home, agent testifies Raleigh, N.C. — A crime scene agent testified Tuesday in the murder trial of Jason Young that, despite the bloody crime scene he found on the second floor of Jason and Michelle Young's Wake County home, he found little blood elsewhere in the house and none whatsoever at other places where the investigation led him. More Info Michael Galloway Jason Young retrial (Day 7) Jason Young, 37, was arrested in December 2009 in connection with his pregnant wife's beating death. He is on trial for a second time after a jury failed to reach a unanimous verdict in his first trial last summer. Michelle Young was found facedown in front of Jason Young's closet in the master bedroom on Nov. 3, 2006. Testifying Monday Michael Galloway, an investigations supervisor with the City-County Bureau of Investigation, said that there were bloody footprints and shoeprints all over the upstairs floor and that it appeared to him that someone had moved Michelle Young's body to get into Jason Young's closet, which likely had been closed during the attack. He said Tuesday that he tested numerous items, including the drains of the sinks in the house and Jason Young's white Ford Explorer, and found no evidence of any blood with the exception of a drop on the knob of a door leading from the Youngs' house to their garage. Defense attorneys say their client was out of town on business, that there is no physical evidence linking him to the crime and that the case has not been solved. Prosecutors, however, contend that Jason Young's marriage was in trouble and that he did not want to be married anymore. They allege that he traveled to Hillsville, Va., about three hours from Raleigh, checked into a Hampton Inn hotel and then returned to Raleigh to commit the crime. Hotel employees have testified to finding an emergency door propped open with a landscaping rock and a security camera in the same hallway unplugged and later pointing toward the ceiling during the time that the state says Jason Young would not have been at the hotel. In addition, a hotel maintenance employee testified last week that Jason Young's electronic room key had been used only once after he checked in, even though security cameras captured him outside his room an hour later. Galloway testified that he visited the hotel on Nov. 4, 2006, and found no forensic evidence there either. It was unlikely though, he said, since the room had been cleaned after Young checked out. He returned to the hotel two other times, including once after Jason Young's first trial, to test investigators' theories as to how Jason Young might have gotten back into his room and the building without using his key. Galloway said he tested the emergency door with a landscaping rock and also a twig from a nearby bush and found that both could have kept the door open. Jason Young testified during his previous trial that he went out the door to smoke a cigar and used a twig to keep it open. Galloway said he also found that the hotel room door could have been propped open several different ways using the inside locks on the door as well as the "Do Not Disturb" sign on the knob. He was also present on Nov. 7, 2006, when investigators had Jason Young strip naked and photographed him for any injuries that might have occurred during the course of his wife's beating death. With the exception of a bruise in the nail of the big toe of Jason Young's left foot, Galloway said, he didn't observe any other bruises, scratches or cuts on Young's body."

2/14/2012 5:05:58 PM

Is retirement money not like real money?

2/14/2012 9:54:28 PM

did the bloody shoe prints match any shoes or size of shoes by JY?

2/14/2012 10:18:46 PM

Short answer (appropriate for TWW) is yes.

2/15/2012 11:07:11 AM

So this is the first time I have actually read any details about the case. The unplugged and tampered cameras is very suspicious.

2/15/2012 11:16:42 AM

Is there a live feed (audio, video, text) of the trial?

2/15/2012 11:22:43 AM

Wral

2/15/2012 11:23:33 AM

Maybe the toddler is possessed by Satan and committed the murder

2/15/2012 11:32:59 AM

Paranormal Activity style?

2/15/2012 11:35:08 AM

I was thinking more The Omen style.

2/15/2012 12:10:19 PM

Quote :

"did the bloody shoe prints match any shoes or size of shoes by JY?"

the answer is NO. the shoes were too small to be that of JY.

as for the cameras, there was fresh DNA and prints on the camera that DID NOT match JY.

the tire track and 911 call are new evidence I expect them to bring about later...but we will see.

2/15/2012 2:44:50 PM

wow, they actually took shoe prints that were too small to be the husbands? what the fuck!
-- Cary PD

2/15/2012 2:47:55 PM

NOT GUILTY

2/15/2012 2:51:10 PM

In the first trial they did have testimony that one of the set of the bloody shoe prints exactly matched a pair of hush puppies (exact size and sole) that he was known to have owned that year.

2/15/2012 3:29:55 PM

not exactly.

it was too small and they never found those shoes if I remember correctly.

but im pretty sure those shoes were found to be too small for JY

2/15/2012 4:47:42 PM

No, they were size 12. His size. The FBI even had the factory in China make a pair in his exact size to compare to the prints they took, and it was a perfect match. There were other footprints from a different shoe that were size 10. Two different pairs of shoe prints in the blood. So, two people were there, or one person tromped around in two different pairs of shoes.

True, they never found the shoes (or ANY of the clothes he was wearing on surveillance in the hotel video for that matter.) They only found the shoe store records proving that he owned the exact shoes that matched the footprints prior to the murder. But, he bought a brand new pair just about exactly like them within a week of his wife's murder.

Please note that these were not a super common type of shoe. The footprint experts had never encountered them before (including the FBI guy at Langley who looks at foot prints and databases of footprints all day for 30 years.)

2/15/2012 8:27:24 PM

2/15/2012 8:32:17 PM

Thank you 24carat

2/15/2012 10:00:53 PM

What did Jason major in at NCSU?

2/15/2012 10:02:31 PM

Women.

and please point me to the video where they say that the sizes matched and the prints matched?

I dont know that happened. I think you are incorrect but willing to be proved incorrect.

[Edited on February 16, 2012 at 2:38 PM. Reason : g]

2/16/2012 2:36:58 PM

here come the WebSleuths dumbfucks with their circumstantial bullshit

THEY NEVER FOUND THE SHOES!!! GUILTY!!! THIS TYPE OF SHOE IS RARE AND HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN BY ANYONE BEFORE LIKE EVER!! GUILTY!!!!

how is it even relevant that nobody has ever before worn this exact type of shoe while committing a murder that leaves shoe print evidence?

it doesn't take a statistics major to understand that this information is nearly meaningless

[Edited on February 16, 2012 at 2:45 PM. Reason : y]

2/16/2012 2:41:26 PM

its the smoking shoe.

2/16/2012 2:45:59 PM

it's the god damn FXO port

2/16/2012 2:48:24 PM

young spoofed a shoe print using his advanced cobbler knowledge to make it look like he was on a business trip.

[Edited on February 16, 2012 at 2:51 PM. Reason : d]

2/16/2012 2:51:08 PM

I dont see anythinggggg at all in this trial about matching shoe prints.

I call bullshit.

2/16/2012 2:51:11 PM

In a not at all shocking revelation it turns out that a bunch of Michelle's friends were bored, horny housewives.

Also,

Quote :

"Jennifer Remy, a hair and fiber analyst for the State Bureau of Investigation Crime Lab, also testified Wednesday that hair samples from the scene, including a clump found in Michelle Young's hand, weren't consistent with hair samples collected from Jason Young. There was also no trace evidence, such as carpet fibers, from the Hampton Inn found in the Young home, Remy said. Defense attorneys were not allowed to question Remy about another piece of evidence – a single hair found on a jewelry box in the bedroom. The hair was found weeks later by a private investigator hired by Jason Young's family. Superior Court Judge Donald Stephens didn't allow it because it wasn't clear if it had been collected in a scientific manner. However, he didn't rule out the possibility of defense attorneys asking Remy about the hair later in the trial. Other agents testified that there was no evidence of blood on clothes from Jason Young's suitcase that was seized when he returned to Raleigh after learning about his wife's death. His DNA, however, was on a piece of sheet rock that was taken from the bedroom and also on molding on his closet door frame, SBI analyst David Freeman said. But Freeman added he had no way of knowing how long it had been there and that it’s not uncommon to find someone's DNA in his or her home."

2/16/2012 2:51:48 PM

Quote :

"His DNA, however, was on a piece of sheet rock that was taken from the bedroom and also on molding on his closet door frame, SBI analyst David Freeman said. But Freeman added he had no way of knowing how long it had been there and that it’s not uncommon to find someone's DNA in his or her home.""

lol, i can't help but imagine him loudly proclaiming the first part and then the second part under his breath ahem....cough

Seems like a strech that this was even allowed as evidence.

2/16/2012 2:55:32 PM

Footwear testimony is actually up right now. I suggest listening to the defense side of the argument before jumping to the conclusion that 24carat has.

2/16/2012 3:25:08 PM

I've been listening today. This shit is nuts. He was a PLAYAH!

2/16/2012 3:31:57 PM

^^^ lol yeah you would hope that second part would be common sense but you never know with the sorts of people they pick to be jurors.

2/16/2012 3:32:52 PM

^^how so? he had one affair.

thats not uncommon these days. especially for a white well to do male.

[Edited on February 16, 2012 at 3:33 PM. Reason : f]

2/16/2012 3:33:23 PM

^He had two that are known about (both testified today). He was banging one chick on the sofa and then his marriage bed while his kid slept in the other room.

What gets me is that both of them knew his wife, and one of them was very good friends with her.

[Edited on February 16, 2012 at 3:38 PM. Reason : wtf]

2/16/2012 3:34:58 PM

The only way this could get better/more salacious was if it turns out that his wife was pregnant with another dude's baby, preferably one of his coworkers or male relatives.

2/16/2012 3:39:50 PM

shoe was never sized from the print.

2/16/2012 3:40:46 PM

And what print are you referring to?

[Edited on February 16, 2012 at 5:08 PM. Reason : The one that said "10" on it?? ]

2/16/2012 4:46:21 PM

any of them.

none of the prints were sized by the latent shoe print expert.

You still have yet to show me ANY evidence that the sizes matched. It never happened.

2/16/2012 6:29:42 PM

I want to skullfuck every user of WebSleuths.com

2/16/2012 6:39:05 PM

Quote :

"You still have yet to show me ANY evidence that the sizes matched. It never happened."

JT, still dont understand exactly what you mean, but unless I am mistaken an agent testified this late this afternoon to sizing a shoe impression that was found on what appeared to be some sort of bedding taken from the scene. Might be states evidence 75? The sizing was redundant as "10" was clearly visible once the impression was enhanced, but he did it anyway to be sure. Ill have to go back and rewatch that portion of the testimony to be sure but it appeared to be a RH shoe impression. I have to admit I am curious if any of the size 12 hushpuppie shoe impressions found were from RH shoes, and if any LH impressions from the Franklin shoe were found, but I suppose if you are going to track through your bloody scene once in shoes you intend to dispose of, then why not change shoes and do it once more instead of wearing a 12 on one foot and a 10 on the other.

[Edited on February 16, 2012 at 6:54 PM. Reason : ok]

2/16/2012 6:52:57 PM

Thats what im trying to say...I dont remember them ever saying it was a size 12 hushpuppy. Those shoe impressions never got sized. The 10 maybe because of the molded portion of the shoe, the hushpuppies were never sized.

2/16/2012 7:09:54 PM

Well then, turns out there was a fingerprint on the eBay printout in the printer. I wonder how much paper was loaded into the printer and how many pages were in the printout of that eBay listing.

2/17/2012 2:58:41 PM

OOPS double posted.

Defense atty on cross is dropping the ball here.

[Edited on February 17, 2012 at 3:05 PM. Reason : yr]

2/17/2012 3:00:08 PM

I wonder what his ebay rating is? If it is not good, I say fry him!

2/17/2012 3:06:00 PM