Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
a lot of people just get sick of baseball by this time of year. i like baseball more than football, but i'm not watching the rest of the playoffs after all the worthwhile teams got knocked out because i no longer give a shit. 10/16/2012 6:05:05 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
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[Edited on October 16, 2012 at 7:27 PM. Reason : D] 10/16/2012 7:10:01 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
Bye yankees 10/18/2012 7:34:45 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
fuck off, yankees 10/18/2012 8:36:16 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
10/19/2012 8:02:31 PM |
wawebste All American 19599 Posts user info edit post |
McKnight rocking the wall clock on his wrist 10/22/2012 10:42:57 PM |
wawebste All American 19599 Posts user info edit post |
great pitching by sf 10/27/2012 11:34:07 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
rotflol buster
11/15/2012 6:41:54 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
GG CABRERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11/15/2012 6:46:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
i dont get all the people arguing for Trout (Angels homers?)
motherfucker got the Triple Crown, so what if he stole more bases than Miggy's fat ass 11/15/2012 7:52:56 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
the biggest joke is Buster Posey winning 11/15/2012 8:11:25 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
do you get off solely by whining about the Giants? 11/15/2012 8:15:23 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
you actually think he was the NL MVP?
LOL 11/15/2012 8:16:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
well, Posey didn't use lawyers to get his steroid charges thrown out
so theres that 11/15/2012 8:23:03 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
plus he's got that winning smile, and can-do attitude
i totally take it back. Ryan Braun is a chump. 11/15/2012 8:25:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
I take it back, Bonds doesn't deserve an asterisk, Hank Aaron is a chump 11/15/2012 8:28:55 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
i'm pretty sure Hank Aaron used amphetamines like everyone else 11/15/2012 8:33:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
why are you all on Braun's dick? i mean, i know Braun is gay and all so he loves dudes on his dick and in his butt, but I don't get all the hate for Poser] 11/15/2012 8:38:04 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Busty Poser is a scholar and a gentleman 11/15/2012 8:40:42 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
do you not think Braun's steroid coverup influenced an occasional swing voter or two?
I'm assuming Braun is the only NL player you think was more deserving 11/15/2012 8:42:41 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
The Giants have the best and most loyal fanbase in all of MLB, they deserve to have an MVP on their team.] 11/15/2012 8:43:22 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
top 3 fanbase in all of sports
couldn't think of a better player/francise to win 11/15/2012 8:45:37 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "do you not think Braun's steroid coverup influenced an occasional swing voter or two?
I'm assuming Braun is the only NL player you think was more deserving" |
Let's just say I think the AL got it right and that the NL didn't.
And I also think Yadier Molina is a better catcher
But who cares. Good for the Giants. Too bad Bochey didn't win MOY11/15/2012 8:47:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Yad is a better clutch/contact hitter
and iirc he had his best power hitting season this year
but lets be real here, nobody gives a shit about the National League in general, so i dont know why were wasting so much time on their award 11/15/2012 8:49:36 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
because the Giants have the best fans in the world and they deserved to have an MVP award to go along with their 2 WS trophies for being so terrific
their stadium is lovely too
and so is fisherman's wharf and golden gate park
[Edited on November 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM. Reason : .] 11/15/2012 8:52:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
ok now instead of debating why Braun should be MVP, you're just being a butthurt A's fan jealous of the team in the Yay thats won a World Series or two since the mid 90s 11/15/2012 8:59:19 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Also lovely about SF:
Sourdough bread, medicinal marijuana, Anchor Steam beer, burritos, Chinatown Dim Sum, Ghiradelli chocolates, The Gap, craigslist.org, and yelp 11/15/2012 9:04:03 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
look, i know the A's best 3 players in the last 20 years (that weren't traded) were a juicer who wouldn't talk to Congress, a juicer who snitched in a book and appeared on reality TV shows based on that snitch fame, and a fast ass dude who didn't even know he used to be John Olerud's teammate, but that doesn't mean you have to be so hateful to the Giants
the A's won 28 more games this year than my team, I don't know why you're so mad at a dude who had his leg broken last year
you act like Cespedes got robbed from the award, not cheating ass Braun 11/15/2012 9:08:59 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, I'll actually bite.
Perhaps the main reason I hate the Giants franchise so much is that they have made it their mission to ensure that the A's leave, so they can have 100% of the Bay Area baseball market share for themselves.
Before PacBell park (Now AT&T) park was built, the Giants were all but ready to leave and move to Florida claiming that they needed to secure territorial rights to remain a lucrative franchise. Walter Haas Jr. (former A's owner) ceded rights to SJ (for free) to keep both teams in the Bay Area, back in 1992. Mind you, this was like 3 years after the famous Bay Bridge Series.
Fast forward to now, the A's would like to move to San Jose, because frankly our stadium in Oakland fucking sucks as bad as Candlestick. Guess who refuses to let them move there, claiming it would destroy their market share...
So yeah. Fuck the Giants. If it hadn't been for the A's, that franchise would've been long gone. All we'd like is a new stadium (kinda like how the 9ers moved to the South Bay), but we are pretty much out of Bay Area options unless somebody can fund a stadium in Oakland. 11/15/2012 9:27:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
well your owner is shit, maybe only rivaled in shittiness by Peter Angelos, but i still don't get the hate on Poser winning the MVP
to me it'd be like me bitching that Zeller won ACC POY last year over Michael Snaer just because I hate the Tar Heels 11/15/2012 9:34:44 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Whatever happened to the park in Fremont that was planned? 11/15/2012 9:37:01 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well your owner is shit, maybe only rivaled in shittiness by Peter Angelos, but i still don't get the hate on Poser winning the MVP
to me it'd be like me bitching that Zeller won ACC POY last year over Michael Snaer just because I hate the Tar Heels" |
Yeah Lew Woolfe is a total jackass. He refused to let the tarps comedown during the playoffs
And I don't really hate Buster Posey that much. I may hate the fact that he plays for the Giants, but he's a good baseball player for sure. I was a bit surprised that he won, given that I don't even think he's the MVP on his own team, but I wouldn't say that I'm angry about it.
And the Fremont idea was never actually going to happen. Nobody wanted a ballpark in the suburbs. I'm pretty sure it was just Lew Woolfe's way of saying that he had tried SOMETHING.11/15/2012 9:52:29 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't even think he's the MVP on his own team" |
Fat Ichiro had a momentous 3-HR playoff game but his regular season was a bit more bland than Posey's
[Edited on November 15, 2012 at 10:18 PM. Reason : unless you're talking about Cain]11/15/2012 10:18:22 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
yep was talking about Matt Cain 11/15/2012 10:21:15 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i dont get all the people arguing for Trout (Angels homers?)
motherfucker got the Triple Crown, so what if he stole more bases than Miggy's fat ass
" |
I don't really care who won it but these arguments of "he won the triple crown so he deserves an award" are annoying. He already won an award for it, the Triple Crown (which is far more rare and valuable than the MVP).
It's like saying that since a movie won the oscar for best picture, it also deserves the kid's choice award for best makeup.11/16/2012 10:02:35 AM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
nope, bad analogy, try again 11/16/2012 10:14:32 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
The triple crown is a tremendous accomplishment and he deserves credit for it, which he gets as being known as a triple crown winner, but it doesn't automatically mean he was the most valuable player in the MLB.
Just like if someone threw 2 perfect games they shouldn't automatically be the Cy Young winner. 11/16/2012 10:58:04 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
If you're arguing that Mike Trout should've won, everyone but LAA fans will disagree 11/16/2012 11:09:57 AM |
Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
their rate stats are close enough that you could make a good case for trout as the MVP when you throw in his defense and the fact that he plays a position that's more demanding than cabrera's. i don't think you could really consider either one of them to be an incorrect choice 11/16/2012 11:31:17 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's like saying that since a movie won the oscar for best picture, it also deserves the kid's choice award for best makeup." |
it's more like saying if a movie won "Best Movie in the Last 20 Years" it should win that individual year's Oscar for Best Picture11/16/2012 12:04:22 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The triple crown is a tremendous accomplishment and he deserves credit for it, which he gets as being known as a triple crown winner, but it doesn't automatically mean he was the most valuable player in the MLB.
Just like if someone threw 2 perfect games they shouldn't automatically be the Cy Young winner." |
There is WAR and then there is WAR vs players in the same organization. Trout's WAR is much lower vs peter Bourjos (mainly because bourjos is also an awesome CF). On the other hand Cabrera's is much higher as without him the Tigers would be rolling with Don Kelly out there.
With that being said, I'd take the Angels being a better team all day with Bourjos in CF instead of trout vs the tigers with kelly instead of Cabrera11/16/2012 12:26:04 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Not to mentioned his 45 extra SBs
I guess I just don't get how if Granderson or Hamilton had hit 2 more HRs it would've been ok to champion Trout for MVP
Quote : | "With that being said, I'd take the Angels being a better team all day with Bourjos in CF instead of trout vs the tigers with kelly instead of Cabrera" |
In that case, Verlander or Felix based on who they'd have to field as their new #5 pitcher to replace them
[Edited on November 16, 2012 at 12:33 PM. Reason : ^]11/16/2012 12:30:59 PM |
Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There is WAR and then there is WAR vs players in the same organization. Trout's WAR is much lower vs peter Bourjos (mainly because bourjos is also an awesome CF). On the other hand Cabrera's is much higher as without him the Tigers would be rolling with Don Kelly out there." |
yeah but WAR is also weighted differently by fangraphs and baseball reference11/16/2012 2:14:51 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8832309/mlb-players-union-agree-testing-hgh-report-says
When reached for comment, Yankees captain Derek Jeter replied with a hearfelt, "shit!" 1/10/2013 1:51:20 PM |