the same lying fatass?

5/8/2012 9:16:44 PM

hey, how's Dave, Juliet, and the twins?

5/8/2012 9:16:58 PM

Way to run more business out of NC.

5/8/2012 9:20:49 PM

Why are people continually calling me a liberal because I voted against it? Republican Liberty Caucus was pretty hardcore against this... oh, but they are classical liberal. THOSE FILTHY LIBERAL REPUBLICAN BASTARDS!

5/8/2012 9:20:56 PM

This thing is passing rougly 60-40. It's more than Republicans who voted "for".

5/8/2012 9:22:36 PM

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"if your company is providing benefits for civil unions / domestic partnerships, they're certainly not doing it today because they're being forced to by the government."

correct me if i'm wrong, but if a civil union is recognized by the local governing body, are employers not required to recognize it (where applicable) as if it were a traditional marriage? I'm all for holding out hope that many companies will choose to do so out of a sense of social purpose, but you know a significant fraction wont--specifically, those employing the low-income that need it most

now ultimately, as snewf said, I'd like to see all marriage "benefits" dissolved but that's a different issue altogether

5/8/2012 9:22:57 PM

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"correct me if i'm wrong, but if a civil union is recognized by the local governing body, are employers not required to recognize it (where applicable) as if it were a traditional marriage? I'm all for holding out hope that many companies will choose to do so out of a sense of social purpose, but you know a significant fraction wont--specifically, those employing the low-income that need it most"

Yes, but it's really more of a "gay civil union" thing. You certainly can't have a company providing benefits for gay domestic partnerships (which many do without any regard to the law of the state they're in, because nothing restricts them from doing so) and not for straight domestic partnerships. So no, you won't see any change whatsoever.

Edit: I should add, in the case that your work for that sort of company (recognizing gay partnerships). It's just easier to provide benefits for all "civil unions" unilaterally without getting into distinctions.

Perhaps some companies might see it as a reason to drop benefits for civil unions across the board, but I highly doubt it. They'll get dragged into court so fast by the minority AND majority.

Which is ultimately why this thing will get shot down.

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 9:28 PM. Reason : ...]

5/8/2012 9:25:22 PM

so if i'm in a common law marriage, as of now recognized by the state of nc, that is dissolved as per A1 ALL companies across the state will continue to pay my spouse and children benefits?

edit: and I hope you're right, if for no other reason that such vague language could be considered legally viable

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 9:29 PM. Reason : asdf]

5/8/2012 9:28:47 PM

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"so if i'm in a common law marriage, as of now recognized by the state of nc, that is dissolved as per A1 ALL companies across the state will continue to pay my spouse and children benefits?"

I'd be willing to bet they still will. Either out of a sense of obligation or because of the massive uproar when it happens.

5/8/2012 9:30:41 PM

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"This thing is passing rougly 60-40. It's more than Republicans who voted "for"."

This is a really dumb post.

5/8/2012 9:30:53 PM

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"This is a really dumb post."

Dumb, but true. Just trying to remind people not to pin it all on evil Republicans.

5/8/2012 9:31:39 PM

No, just dumb.

Voting percentages only reflect the percentage of people who voted for an amendment.

It says nothing about the percentage of different parties that voted for the amendment.

If 100 people voted on the amendment, and 60 people voted for and 40 against, that says nothing about the party makeup of that. How do you not know if 80 Republicans showed up to vote?

5/8/2012 9:34:07 PM

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"No, just dumb."

Well then Democrats certainly had a tough time getting out the vote today huh? Either that or NC is 60/40 Republican. Which explains why we voted for Obama.

I guarantee you a LARGE number of the "for" votes came from black Democrats.

5/8/2012 9:38:33 PM

can i just point out (again) that you can pick out the locations of universities/major metro areas by the map here:
http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/36596/80432/en/md.html?cid=425000010

asheville, app state, charlotte, greensboro, CH, raleigh, wilmington

5/8/2012 9:39:22 PM

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"Well then Democrats certainly had a tough time getting out the vote today huh? Either that or NC is 60/40 Republican. Which explains why we voted for Obama."

Well, obviously it's also a Republican presidential primary year..

5/8/2012 9:40:22 PM

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" are they going to put you in jail if you claim to be married to another man (even though that's not possible, since the definition is one man, one woman, but i digress)? no? well, then, you're rights STILL aren't restricted"

Gay man claims spouse for health benefit. Gets jailed for fraud. therefore he was put in jail for the gay.

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 9:40 PM. Reason : ]

5/8/2012 9:40:33 PM

The major counties are the only ones that voted against.

5/8/2012 9:42:48 PM

sounds like he did more than just claim he was married.

5/8/2012 9:43:35 PM

Sounds like you are a fan of grandfather clauses and poll tests burro. What's that saying about history repeating itself?

5/8/2012 9:46:38 PM

sounds like you're a fan of poisoning the well fallacies.

5/8/2012 9:47:24 PM

To quote our long lost friend guth from facebook:

If you voted any of these Republicans into office I hope you realize what you did. Even if you are one of the many Republicans in my timeline who voted against this I hope you realized that you still helped cause this. I hope that you look at your party and are ashamed that they turned their back on the citizens of this state to appease a national interest group, I hope you are ashamed at what the party has become. If you helped put any of these people into office I hope you and realize what you did and I hope you help get them out of office. So disappointed in this state tonight.

5/8/2012 9:47:49 PM

North Carolina passes same-sex marriage ban, CNN projects

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/08/politics/north-carolina-marriage/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

5/8/2012 9:48:21 PM

ahhh, good ol' guth

5/8/2012 9:48:43 PM

Quote :

"Now I understand what the Wright Brothers were trying to fly away from."

5/8/2012 9:49:55 PM

shit, watauga county damn near went FOR.

wtf ASU? what is it with hippies these days? literally good for nothing!

GODDAMMIT

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 9:50 PM. Reason : -]

5/8/2012 9:50:38 PM

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"wtf ASU? what is it with hippies these days? literally good for nothing!"

It's never a good idea to rely on stoned college kids for votes.

5/8/2012 9:51:29 PM

worked for Obama in 2008

5/8/2012 9:51:53 PM

What is the difference between voting for this amendment because of religion and the Taliban suppressing women because of religion?

What ever happened to separation of church and state?

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 9:53 PM. Reason : S]

5/8/2012 9:52:10 PM

It was a marxist hoax spread by that ultra-liberal socialist Thomas Jefferson.

5/8/2012 9:55:19 PM

people are allowed to vote for something for whatever reasons they want, dude.

5/8/2012 9:55:44 PM

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"What ever happened to separation of church and state?"

To be fair... simply passing a law based on a religious principle does not constitute a church/state violation in and of itself. Saying "marriage is between a man and a woman" is no more a church/state violation than a law against theft ("thou shalt not steal").

If A1 forced Bible readings in school, that would be a little different.

5/8/2012 9:56:29 PM

Lots of rabble on my Facebook fed right now. Nobody can honestly be surprised this passed.

5/8/2012 9:57:59 PM

Surprised? Not really. Sad? Extremely.

5/8/2012 9:58:24 PM

^^^yet no one can explain how homosexuality is wrong without referencing the bible

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"I guarantee you a LARGE number of the "for" votes came from black Democrats."

+1

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 9:59 PM. Reason : ]

5/8/2012 9:58:40 PM

I'd like Christians to speak to me about CHRIST's words on homosexuality.

5/8/2012 9:59:49 PM

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"yet no one can explain how homosexuality is wrong without referencing the bible"

Well, that is what it is. Doesn't change the fact.

5/8/2012 10:00:13 PM

If I wanted to go have gay relationship that doesn't affect you, but if I stole your shit it would

5/8/2012 10:00:22 PM

and, thankfully, almost all laws criminalizing homosexual behaviour have been stricken from the books. what's your point?

5/8/2012 10:00:32 PM

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"can i just point out (again) that you can pick out the locations of universities/major metro areas by the map here: http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/36596/80432/en/md.html?cid=425000010 asheville, app state, charlotte, greensboro, CH, raleigh, wilmington"

You mean to tell me that less educated people are (on average) more bigoted and closed minded regarding social issues???? Notify the press

5/8/2012 10:00:41 PM

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"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782"

5/8/2012 10:01:19 PM

I may swipe that TJ quote

5/8/2012 10:02:15 PM

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"If I wanted to go have gay relationship that doesn't affect you, but if I stole your shit it would"

That just makes it an easier law to justify. I don't agree with the amendment, but the fact of the matter is defining marriage a certain way is not a violation of church/state separation.

5/8/2012 10:02:19 PM

depending on how you define it.

5/8/2012 10:02:56 PM

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"I guarantee you a LARGE number of the "for" votes came from black Democrats on the DL"

fify

5/8/2012 10:03:33 PM

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"Orange 9597 (for) 35980 (against) "

5/8/2012 10:04:01 PM

Give me a reason that man/woman marriage should be the only legal union other than religion?

5/8/2012 10:06:21 PM

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"the fact of the matter is defining marriage a certain way is not a violation of church/state separation."

Making women wear a burka wouldn't necessarily be a violation of separation of church and state either.

5/8/2012 10:06:47 PM

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"xienze: I guarantee you a LARGE number of the "for" votes came from black Democrats."

Black people barely vote.

5/8/2012 10:08:48 PM

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"This is pretty typical of young people. They can't fathom that there are people in this world that have different opinions on things than them. Hence, they're utterly devastated when something that was painfully obvious (the amendment passing) comes to be."

Haha wait, so you don't like ketchup on your cheezburger?

5/8/2012 10:09:15 PM

All men are created equal unless you're a homo.

5/8/2012 10:09:20 PM