goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
i like how people are all "well she had an email server in her house so clearly the 4 years of her presidency will just be a write off" 8/29/2016 10:48:59 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Lol, no one outside of whacky right wing conspiracists think she is a horrible person. She has clearly done a lot of great things for a wide variety of people and institutions.
That is not mutually exclusive from believing she has also not trustworthy or possibly corrupted. 8/29/2016 10:52:47 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
You don't have to believe in all of the conspiracy theories to believe that her Democratic ideology isn't going to line up with your Republican ideology.
I don't believe hardly any of the junk that is out there, yet I still don't want her to run the country. So does that make me a whacky right-wing conservative? 8/29/2016 11:01:58 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
No and I never even hinted at that. 8/29/2016 11:20:31 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So does that make me a whacky right-wing conservative?" |
No that makes you a plain ol' hack.8/29/2016 11:24:58 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I mean I have never supported a democrat and I dont support Hillary, but if it seems like Trump has a chance to win I may be forced to have to vote for her just to keep Trump out. One thing that has happened this election is I continue to questions whether I fall more on the democrat than Republican side of things these days. I mean from a government perspective I generally support Republican ideology but man when it comes to all the religious factors and social aspects that come along with that I think to myself hey maybe I am a democrat I dont really know anymore. 8/29/2016 11:28:17 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
^^Please elaborate on how, by simply disagreeing with Hillary, that makes me a hack. 8/29/2016 11:44:22 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Please elaborate on how, by simply disagreeing with Hillary, that makes me a hack." |
lol it's not her you disagree with, it's the D next to her name, hack.
Quote : | "her Democratic ideology isn't going to line up with your Republican ideology" |
8/29/2016 11:53:50 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
On the new Weiner thing.
Trump isn't going to miss a beat. It's a shame really, that the dissolution of one's marriage gets used for political gain. And besides, it isn't even like he's naked in the texts. Although one does have his little boy beside him.
Quote : | ""I only worry for the country in that Hillary Clinton was careless and negligent in allowing Weiner to have such close proximity to highly classified information," Trump said in a statement. "Who knows what he learned and who he told? It's just another example of Hillary Clinton's bad judgment." " |
He's such an idiot. If he cared for his wife or for Clinton at all, he'd keep his texts to himself.8/29/2016 2:21:47 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Anthony Weiner texting his dick to some broad has zero to do with Hillary Clinton
[Edited on August 29, 2016 at 2:26 PM. Reason : .] 8/29/2016 2:25:48 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Unfortunately, Trump is trying his best to connect it. 8/29/2016 2:29:10 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
how does one keep their texts to themselves? 8/29/2016 2:52:13 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
By having some modicum of self-control. 8/29/2016 3:49:57 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
he very obviously has a problem and is unable to do that 8/29/2016 3:57:30 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
At the very least, he could have waited until after the election, given his short degree of separation from a presidential candidate. Stupid. 8/29/2016 4:00:20 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
lol rjrumple playing 6 degrees of separation from Weiner's weiner ITT 8/29/2016 4:06:08 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I see some normalizing of Trump's comments and behavior ITT.
Let's get one thing straight. Weiner's actions have absolutely zero to do with Clinton or national security. Zero. 8/29/2016 4:08:02 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
That's what I'm trying to say. 8/29/2016 4:10:47 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Fair enough. But your phrasing about "if he cared... about Clinton" makes it seem like you are trying to normalize Trump's take on it. 8/29/2016 4:15:17 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Wow you're really reading waay too much in to these posts. Me saying that Weiner is a twat has no bearing on "normalizing" Trump's comments about the situation. God I hate that word. "Normalizing." 8/29/2016 4:17:57 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
fwiw, I read that comment the same way as NyM410 8/29/2016 4:26:21 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus people - it was also a comment how ridiculous it is that he's picking up on the story and trying to sensationalize it. 8/29/2016 4:31:46 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think the Weiner thing has any legs. He's always been a creeper, he's not connected with the Hillary campaign.
If Trump tries to push the issue, he has Ailes and Bannon, both people Trump hand-picked, to deal with, who have worse pasts than Weiner. 8/29/2016 4:49:43 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't think the Weiner thing has any legs." |
Isn't Weiners third leg the whole point?8/29/2016 4:52:00 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it was also a comment how ridiculous it is that he's picking up on the story and trying to sensationalize it." |
Except you're the one who brought this stupid fodder to this thread, and twice implied that it was bad for Hillary.
If actually just want to point out ridiculous shit Trump says, put it in the Trump thread.]8/29/2016 5:47:42 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "fwiw, I read that comment the same way as NyM410" |
same8/29/2016 8:35:58 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
fourthed 8/30/2016 9:22:30 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Huma is a brilliant beautiful goddess and Weiner never deserved her. Y'all leave her alone 8/30/2016 10:07:24 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
when you open a new jar of pickles it makes a popping sound, there was no pop jerry!
https://youtu.be/Kt22Y9-dfNk?t=1m18s
8/30/2016 2:48:08 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
at least you're not trying to be credible anymore 8/30/2016 2:49:17 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
InfoWars!!!!111 8/30/2016 2:58:51 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Oh my God, that really is the top story on InfoWars right now. 8/30/2016 3:04:47 PM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
^really? hah. i was on the tube of yous watchin a hillary video and a popping sound video was on the side there and i added constanza
[Edited on August 30, 2016 at 3:14 PM. Reason : funny how video had 4 times more thumbs down than up] 8/30/2016 3:13:25 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "THURSDAY, MAY 22, 2008 04:16 AM PDT What’s in John McCain’s medical records?" |
http://www.salon.com/2008/05/22/mccain_67/
Quote : | "Medical mudslinging: Right wingers reach a new low with their smears about Hillary’s health" |
http://www.salon.com/2016/08/19/medical-mudslinging-right-wingers-reach-a-new-low-with-their-smears-about-hillarys-health/
lol8/30/2016 4:29:31 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
that the potential of PTSD for a guy who was a POW for 5 1/2 years and tried to commit suicide multiple times is equivalent in your mind to whether or not we hear a pop on a jar of pickles because she fainted once is interesting
also, salon is shit
[Edited on August 30, 2016 at 4:42 PM. Reason : .] 8/30/2016 4:36:18 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I never said anything about the stupid pickle stunt. Clinton and Mccain are both old as fuck so naturally a smear campaign would ask if they had health issues, combine the cases where the leftist media has fired/silenced people raising questions, its suspect. My critique is more of the biased media censorship.
Quote : | "also, salon is shit" |
Perhaps you can convince your fellow SJW ilk of this fact.8/30/2016 6:00:25 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
lol beatsunc posts a week old video, complete with conspiracy theory
never change, beats.
[Edited on August 30, 2016 at 6:25 PM. Reason : hahaha beatsunc hangs out at infowars] 8/30/2016 6:23:35 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Perhaps you can convince your fellow SJW ilk of this fact." |
I've repeatedly stated Salon is garbage. I am not a SJW anymore??? 8/30/2016 7:33:39 PM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
^^never go to infowars. more of drudge guy 8/30/2016 7:54:38 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
i bet your browser history suggests otherwise 8/30/2016 8:03:15 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Just out of curiosity, are there any websites that would be right-of-center that you folks find credible? I ask because Drudge always links to a lot of them, sites like "The Nation," "Washington Examiner," "The Hill," etc. 8/30/2016 8:43:14 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
in general, I would say no. But I'm not a mouth breathing Trump supporter. 8/30/2016 9:18:48 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Just out of curiosity, are there any websites that would be right-of-center that you folks find credible? " |
We're talking about Infowars here, which isn't right-of-center. It's off the scale crazy.
Quote : | ""The Nation," "Washington Examiner," "The Hill," etc." |
The Nation isn't right-leaning. They endorsed Bernie for president and print Noam Chomsky articles.
[Edited on August 30, 2016 at 9:46 PM. Reason : the other two could very well be credible. just bc they might be right of center doesn't automatically disqualify them ]]8/30/2016 9:37:16 PM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
main thing is dont believe anything you read unless its self evident or can demonstratively be proven 8/30/2016 9:55:07 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^
Reason And Daily Beast 8/30/2016 10:01:26 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^
Hillaryclinton.com 8/30/2016 10:09:50 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We're talking about Infowars here, which isn't right-of-center. It's off the scale crazy. " |
They're the only news source brave enough to report on what our reptilian overlords are plotting, the mad men!8/30/2016 10:25:03 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Hmmm, I can't say that I've ever visited infowars. Maybe once from a link posted here, but I can't remember. I'll have to check them out.
For some reason I thought the Daily Beast was a left of center resource. 8/31/2016 9:03:24 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Media bias!!!
http://www.vox.com/2015/7/6/8900143/hillary-clinton-reporting-rules
Quote : | "As a reporter, I get sucked into playing by the Clinton rules. This is what I've seen in my colleagues, and in myself.
1) Everything, no matter how ludicrous-sounding, is worthy of a full investigation by federal agencies, Congress, the "vast right-wing conspiracy," and mainstream media outlets
..
2) Every allegation, no matter how ludicrous, is believable until it can be proven completely and utterly false. And even then, it keeps a life of its own in the conservative media world.
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3) The media assumes that Clinton is acting in bad faith until there's hard evidence otherwise.
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4) Everything is newsworthy because the Clintons are the equivalent of America's royal family
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5) Everything she does is fake and calculated for maximum political benefit" |
Now this was posted back in July ..... 2015. Every word of it has been proven true since then.
[Edited on August 31, 2016 at 9:49 AM. Reason : .]8/31/2016 9:47:34 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Vox is turning out to be a pretty partisan place and it makes me a bit uncomfortable quoting it... but I did see a link to an interesting article about Colin Powell's foundation while he was with the State Dept.
It's actually pretty similar conditions to Clinton (AT&T donations while his son was head of FCC, etc)...
That said, I've never once thought the Foundation stuff is a scandal while I do think she showed not only a lack of good judgment but also deliberately tried to mislead with the email server.. 8/31/2016 11:35:21 AM |