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"it only took 18 pages for someone to bite on The E Man's troll bait well done, bbehe"

inorite? bbehe forgot he was talking to Earl.

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"Sure, this is a pragmatic and reasonable position. Look at how the tone has changed over the course of a few weeks, though. The consensus went from "racist cop executes innocent, unarmed teen in cold blood" to "possibly incompetent cop kills a violent criminal, likely during/after an altercation"."

Wow you're some piece of work. The only mention I've seen of the word "execute" is by the OP, Earl, so nice job biting down on that bait. And when I think violent criminal I don't think of a dude who [allegedly] stole some cigars and [allegedly] shoved the store owner...I think of someone who assaults with a deadly weapon or something along those lines. Here's a violent criminal for ya - http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/26306132/war-machine-due-in-ca-court-in-vegas-beating-case

[Edited on August 21, 2014 at 10:59 PM. Reason : Consensus my ass. You're comparing two wildly opposing viewpoints on what probably happened.]

8/21/2014 10:53:48 PM

its possible he beat the cop 'reel' good before pardner grabbed his shootin iron

thats violent

8/21/2014 11:27:12 PM

It has been confirmed that police jammed all cell phone signals to shut down media livestreams as they cleared the streets in the past couple of nights.

8/21/2014 11:34:59 PM

that should be illegal (if it's not already).

What's holder doing down there... hopefully working on some charges.

8/21/2014 11:38:40 PM

Mustafa's livestream has gone down in the past few minutes. Miraculously, it always starts working again when he retreats to the media staging area.

It has been discovered that mercenaries(Asymmetric Solutions) are actively working Ferguson. They claim they are working for private citizens(Anderson Cooper maybe?) but there are FOI requests underway to find out if they were actually working for the police.

8/21/2014 11:47:44 PM

holders down there gettin jiggy wit it

8/21/2014 11:51:19 PM

Holder is probably giving a speech on pulling the Redskins' patent

8/21/2014 11:54:27 PM

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"It has been discovered that mercenaries(Asymmetric Solutions) are actively working Ferguson. They claim they are working for private citizens(Anderson Cooper maybe?) but there are FOI requests underway to find out if they were actually working for the police."

I think you're lost. This must be where you meant to post that - http://bullcitybulletin.com/

8/21/2014 11:56:52 PM

Yes, the mercenaries could be protecting Eric Holder. You'd think the federal government would have people to take care of things like that.

Mustafa has left the "press containment area" to try to get better signal. This despite having perfect signal for the first seven days.

Earlier in the week one of the cops said "Heyyyy Mustafa...." to Vice livestream kid, apparently mistaking him because of the camera equipment. The kid just bit his tongue and moved on. It's clear that they are being briefed on how to disrupt the livestreams but haven't actually watched them enough to distinguish the individuals on camera. His first two cameras were smashed and he took a teargas canister to the head, but it looks like the cell phone jammers are going to be what ultimately shuts him down.

I wonder if a satellite uplink would be more effective.

[Edited on August 22, 2014 at 12:12 AM. Reason : .]

8/21/2014 11:58:01 PM

PR photo

https://twitter.com/LakishaJackson/status/502663821857931264/photo/1

8/22/2014 12:11:33 AM

"Shoot it!"

"No, NO!!!"

8/22/2014 12:14:30 AM

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"Missouri State Highway Patrol Troopers fix basketball goal for #Ferguson children, play quick game, then shoot them"

8/22/2014 12:14:30 AM

^^^^^ They confirmed they were operating in Ferguson on their facebook. Interestingly, they are trying to distance themselves from the police in the statement. They see any association with the police as bad PR, most likely.

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"Asymmetric Solutions 16 hours ago In response to more inquiry: We were recently contacted by a professional investigative journalist that some of our ranks have previously escorted into highly dangerous combat zones. This individual requested that we escort their small group into Ferguson, Missouri to view the ongoing issues for future commentary. We took this individual in and out of the area safely without incident. We were not hired to work for the state, for the police, to work as peacekeepers, mercenaries, cops for hire, etc. We have done similar personal bodyguard and high risk logistics work with journalists who are interested in reporting from hostile areas all over the world. We normally do not comment on this side of our work. At suggestion of our client who felt our position was unique, our public message was one of frustration that someone who would typically call upon us to escort them to Baghdad, Kabul, etc. would feel the need to ask us to take them into a suburb of St. Louis, our own wonderful city. It is tragic that things have degenerated to this point. The metro area is our home and we believe the coverage of St. Louis and this incident by major media is fueling the issue unnecessarily for their own benefit. In our time inside the Ferguson area, we came into ancillary contact with numerous demonstrators and protestors who did not seem to have any commitment to violence or chaos, but only wanted to peacefully have their opinion heard or report on the matters at hand. It seems a few bad actors are being treated as the whole. We strongly support The US Constitution and have sworn an oath to it. The First Amendment Rights to assemble and speak and print are not limited to only pretty, popular, or mainstream opinions. They are among the most sacred things that are to be protected by Government. A free society is not always a convenient or easy society. Law and order is important. Rioters and looters should be arrested and prosecuted. They cannot be used an excuse for the Governor to unnecessarily detain or arrest a peaceful press or lawful demonstrators. The Government has a duty to defend those liberties with the same vigor in which they defend private property from theft and destruction. Our brief venture into the Ferguson area was to make our resources and experience available to help ensure that necessary liberties could be practiced by the press without threat of incidental violence or misguided repression. We hope the situation resolves soon."

[Edited on August 22, 2014 at 12:19 AM. Reason : .]

8/22/2014 12:16:01 AM

[Edited on August 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM. Reason : ^ I picture you as some crazy ass disability-teat-sucking fat loser. Prove me wrong. ]

[Edited on August 22, 2014 at 12:28 AM. Reason : You actually know what a mercenary is right?]

8/22/2014 12:20:18 AM

^^ that's a pretty on-point response, I'm impressed.

8/22/2014 12:27:00 AM

Surprising candor, I agree.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/31/AR2009013101548.html

Cell phone jamming is, indeed, illegal for local and state authorities and limited to federal agencies unless an exemption is issued. I find it hard to believe that the White House would issue such an exemption for this clusterfuck after the governor ignored federal advice and sent in the national guard in an effort to force Obama to personally engage in the crisis. If that is the case, I wonder if St. Louis police are using their Stingray device as a makeshift jammer, selectively interrupting the livestreams they find undesirable.

[Edited on August 22, 2014 at 12:46 AM. Reason : .]

8/22/2014 12:35:21 AM

what do you guys think of this:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/02/21-things-you-cant-do-while-black

8/22/2014 2:39:10 AM

and isn't making up the stuff about Assymetric Solutions, they did announce they were going there to protect one person.

[Edited on August 22, 2014 at 7:30 AM. Reason : and they are a mercenary firm, private military contractor]

8/22/2014 7:28:51 AM

Is anyone else disappointed that this isn't getting more coverage?:

Mya Aaten-White, Ferguson Shooting Victim, Says Police Have Not Interviewed Her
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/08/mya_aaten-white_shooting_victim_from_aug_12_says_police_have_not_interviewed_her.php

This was the woman who was shot in the head. Police claimed it was a drive by shooting but she does not know why they are claiming that, and says the only people she knew about where those who came to her aid.

One of the most bizarre things about it is that the bullet was removed and given to someone however now the police don't know where it is

8/22/2014 9:05:32 AM

So any "private military contractor" is a mercenary?

8/22/2014 9:52:25 AM

Yes?

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

8/22/2014 9:54:37 AM

http://goo.gl/M9uO4L

8/22/2014 9:59:25 AM

? There is no dispute. We all agree that private military contractors are mercenaries.

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

8/22/2014 10:06:47 AM

^^^^^ Looking at the shape of the bullet in her x-ray, it looks to me like she caught a rubber bullet to the temple. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cylindrical_rubber_bullet.JPG

Has anyone found out the identity of the other protester shot on Aug 17? Video here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=766_1408314793

Looks like a white guy. You can hear the people providing first aid begging people to film them so they won't be shot by police.

[Edited on August 22, 2014 at 10:21 AM. Reason : .]

8/22/2014 10:08:29 AM

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"Yes?"

The guy in the cube next to me is a private military contractor, and he's the farthest thing from a mercenary I can imagine.

Plus these dudes were hired by a news organization anyway.

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"http://goo.gl/M9uO4L"

Not really. smc used the word mercenary in an attempt to further Chicken Little the situation, and it's far from accurate.

8/22/2014 10:10:56 AM

news organizations hire PMC's all the time, they just usually do it in war zones

these guys also do FP in foreign conflict zones, that satisfies every lay person's understanding of the word "mercenary" so any disagreement is a pedantic semantics argument

[Edited on August 22, 2014 at 10:14 AM. Reason : .]

8/22/2014 10:12:31 AM

Wait... is there something wrong with being a mercenary?

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

8/22/2014 10:13:25 AM

they are definitely mercenaries. choose something else to argue incessantly, guys

8/22/2014 10:14:09 AM

http://www.thewire.com/national/2014/08/ferguson-police-waited-10-days-to-review-michael-brown-incidents-report/378972/

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"Since Michael Brown was shot by Officer Darren Wilson on August 9, reporters have called for the release of the incident report Wilson would have filled out according to proper police procedure. But according to the document released to the ACLU, there is no real report. The incident report the Ferguson Police Department has on file has little more than the who, where and when of the shooting. It doesn't say what happened, it doesn't say how, and it wasn't even reviewed by a supervisor until 10 days after Michael Brown died. The report was given final approval on August 20. At a press conference last week Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson released an incident report related to the robbery Brown was a suspect in, as well as video of the robbery. At the time, Jackson said that he wanted to hold on to the information but was pushed by transparency request, though media organizations actually wanted details of the shooting. Jackson later said that the robbery was unrelated to the shooting — Brown was stopped for walking in the street. Several people considered the selective release of information to be a character assassination, and Capt. Ron Johnson and Attorney General Eric Holder expressed their own concerns over the selective release of information. It's clear now that Ferguson police knew then that they didn't have the incident report they were asked to release. MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell argued that Jackson essentially admitted there was no incident report last week when he said "we've pretty much given you every bit of information that we have now — I don't think there's anything else that we have to give out." What's concerning about the lack of a detailed incident report is that there's one less piece of solid evidence in this case. Over the last two weeks there have been several conflicting reports from anonymous sources discussing how Brown died and the extent of Officer Wilson's injuries. A Grand Jury is currently meeting to determine whether or not to bring charges against Wilson. As Jonathan Cohn at The New Republic noted, whether charges are brought against Wilson "will depend on the enthusiasm of the prosecutor bringing the case and the quality of the evidence he can present." One piece of evidence the prosecutor won't have is Wilson's report on what happened."

8/22/2014 10:14:09 AM

Quote :

"news organizations hire PMC's all the time, they just usually do it in war zones"

In which usage, they're not mercenaries.


[Edited on August 22, 2014 at 10:17 AM. Reason : If they were engaging in the hostilities you'd have a point]

8/22/2014 10:14:41 AM

If bigman and I agree on something then it literally has to be true.

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

8/22/2014 10:15:11 AM

^ That is a convincing point...

8/22/2014 10:16:43 AM

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

[Edited on August 22, 2014 at 10:19 AM. Reason : lol]

8/22/2014 10:18:01 AM

Shocking that The Gateway Pundit report which was parroted by Hannity, Limbaugh and Coulter turned out to be a lie...

8/22/2014 4:06:35 PM

Internet conveniently goes dark in all of St Louis just before tonight's rally.

8/23/2014 11:50:19 PM

screws fall out all the time the world is an imperfect place

8/24/2014 12:21:18 AM

https://storify.com/moderndaydude/shaun-king-psychopathy-of-racism

I didn't see earlier that there was no evidence of a struggle on Browns hands or fingernails by the medical examiner. Also, there's another video there of just after the shooting, I wonder if there are other videos people haven't shared...

8/24/2014 2:50:13 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/darren-wilsons-first-job-was-on-a-troubled-police-force-disbanded-by-authorities/2014/08/23/1ac796f0-2a45-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html?hpid=z1

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"The small city of Jennings, Mo., had a police department so troubled, and with so much tension between white officers and black residents, that the city council finally decided to disband it. Everyone in the Jennings police department was fired. New officers were brought in to create a credible department from scratch. That was three years ago. One of the officers who worked in that department, and lost his job along with everyone else, was a young man named Darren Wilson. Some of the Jennings officers reapplied for their jobs, but Wilson got a job in the police department in the nearby city of Ferguson...."

8/24/2014 9:25:03 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/23/us/texas-police-chief-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

This is why cops don't take chances. Pulled a guy over for a warrant for graffiti, ends up getting killed. This officer probably hesitated to pull his firearm due to all the shit in the media right now about Brown and Wilson.

8/24/2014 9:41:13 AM

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"This officer probably hesitated to pull his firearm due to all the shit in the media right now about Brown and Wilson."

Man you are a fucking expert about what went through the minds of people just before they were killed

8/24/2014 11:16:21 AM

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"Man you are a fucking expert about what went through the minds of people just before they were killed "

I'm not saying that this is what happened here, because I don't know.

But it's a growing "trend" that officers are failing to act when necessary due to fear of public perception, media, retaliation etc...

8/24/2014 12:17:14 PM

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"This officer probably hesitated to pull his firearm due to all the shit in the media right now about Brown and Wilson."

i haven't heard anything else about that case, all i have read is the article you linked to, and it does not say anything about the officer being shot by the other guys gun, it only says that there was a struggle and the officer was shot. From what you linked to, it doen't sound like hesitation to pull his gun had anything to do with it at all, perhaps pulling his unnecessarily escalated the confrontation (of course that is pure speculation, i'm just going off the details in the linked article, which are very sparse)

8/24/2014 12:29:48 PM

Everybody pretty much assumed that Wilson was a dirty racist cop without the facts. By me stating that the Texas cop may have hesitated, that isn't any more or less speculation than what is all over this thread.

8/24/2014 1:07:07 PM

Holy shit, Ultraspank doesn't think cops are reacting aggressively enough

What an idiot

8/24/2014 2:04:37 PM

^ That's what you read there?


Trollerskate somewhere else, it's getting old.

8/24/2014 2:18:12 PM

You're the same as this Darren Wilson guy, I hope you lose your job. Cops are pieces of shit.

8/24/2014 2:23:29 PM

How can you sit there and tell me that I shouldn't judge food stamp recipients off of one welfare queen I see in the store, when you judge every police officer in this country based on several bad cops?

8/24/2014 7:26:32 PM

i'm judging this specific cop on his ridiculous posting

8/24/2014 7:47:23 PM

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"Cops are pieces of shit."

Maybe you should narrow your focus a bit then. Or maybe we're operating on that plane of existence that y0willy was talking about.

8/24/2014 7:48:55 PM

time is a flat circle

8/24/2014 7:51:52 PM