hey, i like knowin how i'm gonna die

11/10/2005 12:25:57 AM

I tried about 10 times unsuccessfully to quit smoking, twice (or maybe three) times using the nicotine patch. I even quit for over a year successfully, then went back to smoking.

This most recent time I quit using Nicotine Gum, and it was easier using the gum than I had expected. You can just chew the gum whenever you want a cig, and it takes care of part of the oral fixation that goes along with smoking.

Before I quit last, I was smoking anywhere to a pack, to a pack and a half of cigarettes per day. I would go through at least 1 carton per week.

11/10/2005 12:25:58 AM

my uncle quit due to hypnosis, my grandfather quit cold turkey, my brother quit off of step system and his wife quitby using those nicotine free kind and gradually stoppin

hypnosis is by far the quickest and easiest way though

11/10/2005 12:26:15 AM

more like... i wasted money on the gum and it still didnt work

11/10/2005 12:26:43 AM

I gotta find the one that works for me, I still think 0EPII1's is the most appealing so far.

11/10/2005 12:29:43 AM

you should be thankful you don't live in the country where i live.

a pack: $1.07 - $2 (phil morris menthols - cartier)

marlboros are $1.33



here is another method: move to the UK: a pack is $7

how much is a pack in the US?

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 12:42 AM. Reason : ]

11/10/2005 12:34:22 AM

depends on the state and where you get em

theyre like 2.50-3.50 in nc

someone i know bought a pack in the airport in NYC and they were ~9 bucks

11/10/2005 12:35:56 AM

Quote :

"move to the UK: a pack is $7"

I thought they were closer to 9-10 when i was there last summer

11/10/2005 12:42:58 AM

maybe... i was there this summer, and caught a glimpse of cigs behind the counter.

there were all GBP 4.xx

that translates to $7.50 - $9

that was in Bath. Probably closer to what you said in London.

also depends on value of dollar to pound.

11/10/2005 12:47:06 AM

I started smoking when I was 16...and I managed to quit cold turkey at least 4 times in my life...once for 5 years.

I've been smoke-free for over two years (closer to three) and plan on keeping it that way.

Cold turkey is the only way that works for me. That's also how I quit drinking. Just quit and force yourself to never look back. It's really hard for the first two weeks, but after that, it's all downhill. You'll be amazed at how much better you feel.

The first time I quit for any appreciable time was when I was 18. Hell, my dick damn near stayed hard for two weeks. Yeah, smoking does have that effect.

11/10/2005 12:54:58 AM

see the way i do it (i still smoke though) is that i started out with ultra light marlboro, then gradually went up to lights then red then tried the new stuff marlboro had, then wanted to change to camel, then to menthol newports and so on...then i was like fuck it...i wanna either slow down or quit, so i went back down to ultra light marlboro...and recently i wanted something heavier so i am a light person now, but will never go to red...

so moral of the story is either get ultra light, or change cigarett brands ( taste shittier depending on what your use to) should make you want to stop...

oh, 1 method i tried was also, everytime i wanted to buy a pack i would put it in a saving jar.. lasted about 2 monthes...but ended up using money to buy more cigz...

11/10/2005 1:01:48 AM

if you still smoke
or failed quitting
he shouldnt want your advice

11/10/2005 1:03:21 AM

haha true

and i love when people say

"i've quit four or five times but this time was by far the easiest"
you didnt quit all those times, u just had a small stoppage

11/10/2005 1:10:23 AM

i sopped for a year, went back, stopped again for 5 months, then went back, stoped for 2 month after that, then now iam back..

1st thing you should ask yourself is: WHY THE FUCK AM I DOING IT?

then if you have a convincing answer then keep on until you die, if not then your just a silly ass lame bitch...

as for me my answer is: Work, stress, college, life and i hate (pills) tylonol and advil for headaches....

11/10/2005 1:11:41 AM

you dont like tylenol but you dont have any problems flooding your body with nicotine?

11/10/2005 1:12:44 AM

technically, it takes away the headach in a fun way where you blow air in and out..rather than swallwoing some unkown shit that manufacturers produce...


But seriously, if you want to quit, ASK WHY AM I DOING IT??

Is it worth it, and has it changed anything? have i gained or lost anything?? is it helping or hurting?

i know i cant run anymore, but i sure can beat them ricers on the road ...

...so its a personal and mental thaang..just have a discussion with yourself and desires... anyone can do it and everyone has the cababilities to do it (either quit or keep on) but YOU CAN if your sincere about it!

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 1:19 AM. Reason : just say i dont want it to yourself...]

11/10/2005 1:15:03 AM

well for me my first step as of the past month was buying my new car...its a nice ride and is not worth smoking inside..because of the smell and dirt/dust/ash from the cigaret..so everytime i drive there is no smoking in the car..and i DONT...so i end up looking like a hitch hiker or a dude that needs a jump in the middle of the road

11/10/2005 1:21:10 AM

Quote :

"technically, it takes away the headach in a fun way where you blow air in and out..rather than swallwoing some unkown shit that manufacturers produce..."

the headache goes away because of the drugs in the cigarette and your body's response to them

11/10/2005 1:36:26 AM

see thats what i hate about you doctors.
lets see...

hmm...advil nor tylonol is a drug..right??!!

ok well..

I wounder what anasthesia (however you spell it) is..is it cocain? weed? no crack....no its a pain killer!...so is wahtever is in the cigaretts

11/10/2005 1:51:41 AM

im not sure what that incoherent babble is trying to say but google nicotine and dopamine

11/10/2005 1:55:15 AM

well bud, for me health is an issue. I'd like to get as close as I can to the athletic ability I had in high school, and that ain't happenin with cigarettes. Plus, girls don't like stinky clothes, breath, bad teeth, etc.

And if you're cool with gettin lung cancer, emphysema (sp?), tracheotomoy, etc, by all means keep smoking, but I'd like to quit the thing that could lead me to having any of those.

Oh yea MONEY... if I quit smokin I'd have extra green...

^^oh yea and dude, that is fucking stupid. Tobacco users don't just smoke one here and there to relieve a headache like tylenol. Everything is bad for you if you abuse it, but you're talking apples and oranges. How many times a year do you use anasthesia? How many times a year do you smoke cigarettes? There's a diffrenece between a concentrated amount of "drugs" in a tylenol pill and a cigarette that has over 4000 chemicals in it, 37 of which cause cancer

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 1:57 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 1:59 AM. Reason : fixed the facts]

11/10/2005 1:57:31 AM

if you really want to quit get a dopamine receptor antagonist
get you more monoamine oxidase type B

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 2:04 AM. Reason : .]

11/10/2005 2:04:30 AM

ok now i feel stupid

11/10/2005 2:05:40 AM

just takin a stab but does part of that mean MOA Inhibitor?

11/10/2005 2:06:42 AM

nicotine floods your brain with dopamine
mao b breaks down the dopamine
smokers dont have enough mao b so its harder to quit.
certain anti depressants will help with this

basically you want more dopamine in the nucleus accumbens

also as an aside
major depression is a lot more common in smokers than non smokers. smokers with depression will have more cravings for longer periods of time, which further strengthens the connection with MAO. quitting can cause depression

11/10/2005 2:18:24 AM

i agree health is an issue, but my point is..its really hard to quit "Suddenly" you have to do it gradually and just know why you are quitting and why you are smoking if its hard for you to quit.

btw..iam not a "smoker" who smokes like a pack or 2 a day...a pack usually lasts me about 3-5 days...a week at the max if iam busy.

for me a cigarette or even a bong (tobacco) for that matter is a luxury after hard work or in a social gathering...it gives you that Buzz and its just a "stress releiver" be it psycologically or whatever..but thats what it is for me...

but really think about the environment and the pollutuion and when your around others who smoke, dust and all...your inhaling all that everyday! so to say that just from smoking you can get lung cancer is ridiculous....

think of the mine people, the mechanics, ppl in factories etc...they have even a greater risk...

a cigarete has only a minute amt..so if your a "smoker" then yea youve been hit hard..but if your doing it occassionally then in my opinion i think youll be fine...sorry to say but eveyone is going to die...and death doesnt know age...

my philosophy is just live life and enjoy..

11/10/2005 2:19:00 AM

a pack in 3 days isnt "occasionally"

11/10/2005 2:20:30 AM

i said 3 days to a week...3 if iam really stressed out and i have a lot of time in my hands...

11/10/2005 2:23:20 AM

Quote :

"but really think about the environment and the pollutuion and when your around others who smoke, dust and all...your inhaling all that everyday! so to say that just from smoking you can get lung cancer is ridiculous...."

True, but jesus, if you had the chance to eliminate one of those causes wouldn't you? I mean that's why I choose not to work in the fucking mines!

Yea, enjoy life, but I think I can enjoy it even more if I quit smoking. I'll feel better each day, and way down the line I won't have severe health problems BEFORE I die. Smoking yourself to death isnt a quick process dude, and you'll most likely suffer from severe health problems before you die. I don't know about you but I dont consider that 'enjoying life'.

11/10/2005 2:26:41 AM

at least 1 a day is consdered a regular smoker
dont kid yourself, you are a smoker

11/10/2005 2:27:11 AM

^^^I share your philosophy, but I think we interpret it differently

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 2:28 AM. Reason : .]

11/10/2005 2:27:53 AM

DiscGolfer _ DONT get me wrong, i feel as if aim trying to promote you to get back to smoking!!!! IAM NOT, please do your best to quit..if thats what you want and i completly respect, agree, and promote what you are doing. As for me i see it as a habit that i will eventually outgrow in the near future..but for now...iam enjoying it ...

To answer your question about eliminating the causes..seriously lets think logically for a minute..you and I know that that will never happen in our lifetime..its just there... yes we are trying with hybrid and crappy things like that..but as long as we have millions of people like myself who love power and would rather have gas rather than electric, and who are use to this and that (like you) then it wont happen...

pollutuion will stay with us, i wish it can be get rid of that easy t but its a longshot...very very looongshot from now.


^Yup..its just how my body function at this age of time

11/10/2005 2:39:56 AM

Yea I gothcha, if you choose to do it, thats your perogative, I aint stoppin ya

As for the pollution comment, I was just trying to say that since that is pretty much inevitable, why increase your health risks by smoking, working in the mines, etc.

It sounded to me that you were saying since there already is pollution, it's fine to go ahead and smoke cigarettes anyways and just say fuck it because we are already breathing in harmful stuff. Well my point is, I'd like to stop smoking to decrease the amount of harmful substances entering my lungs, thus decreasing the chance of health risks later in life.

11/10/2005 2:54:14 AM

I think it is safe to say that HZW28934629865 was high on something (other than nicotine) in all those posts.

11/10/2005 2:57:19 AM

that would explain some things, haha

11/10/2005 3:00:37 AM

(Seriouse non-sarcastically) GO FOR IT, i wish you good luck on that man!

but no i meant to live life and enjoy and that thats not the main reason for having lung cancer..there are other environmental effects that may cause this, but in a way yea its sounds like that... like i said its like a "luxury" in a sense... for me after a really stressed day.

i personally dont like to take drugs and pills (predcription)

I have also never smoked anything other than tobbacco and never will....

again..Good luck and keep us updated...who knows maybe soon i might follow your footsteps...

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 3:06 AM. Reason : ^ HA HA HA, funny guys...as a matter of fact iam going to smoke one and go to sleep..night]

11/10/2005 3:03:20 AM

Haha, probably a smart idea to stay away from the drugs at least...I used to do all kinds of shit all the time. Over the past two years I've completely phased out everything but cigarettes, alcohol, and caffeine. So I feel confident I can kick the nicotine, its just a matter of time. Can't go giving up everything all at once, or you'll go crazy... and that's one way to begin a binge...

11/10/2005 3:13:26 AM

My >.<

Good Luck!

11/10/2005 3:15:18 AM

popsicles especially those japanese ones. mmm mm good. i think you're going to stop if you really want to stop. it helps to have someone support you that wants to see you healthy. It also helps to to stop counting ,not drink alcohol as much,and go work out. i think everyone finds their own way. i hope you find yours.

11/10/2005 7:35:16 AM

http://www.inhousedrugstore.com/stop-smoking/stop-smoking.html

11/10/2005 7:54:47 AM

thanks for the input guys!

11/10/2005 10:10:52 AM

I've used the tea tree oil toothpicks before, they're a bit strong at first, but they're a good replacement for cigarettes while you're trying to quit

http://tinyurl.com/3tutl

11/10/2005 11:25:51 AM

Seriously, good luck!

11/10/2005 12:39:59 PM

start dipping. but thats even harder to quit.

11/10/2005 12:45:18 PM

1.) don't buy any
2.) don't hang out too much around smokers
3.) don't put them in your mouth and light them

Quote :

"technically, it takes away the headach in a fun way where you blow air in and out..rather than swallwoing some unkown shit that manufacturers produce..."

um, you want to know about unknown things?

http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/nicotineinhaler/a/cigingredients.htm

Quote :

" * Acetanisole * Acetic Acid * Acetoin * Acetophenone * 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane * 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine * 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran * Acetylpyrazine * 2-Acetylpyridine * 3-Acetylpyridine * 2-Acetylthiazole * Aconitic Acid * dl-Alanine * Alfalfa Extract * Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil * Allyl Hexanoate * Allyl Ionone * Almond Bitter Oil * Ambergris Tincture * Ammonia * Ammonium Bicarbonate * Ammonium Hydroxide * Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic * Ammonium Sulfide * Amyl Alcohol * Amyl Butyrate * Amyl Formate * Amyl Octanoate * alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde * Amyris Oil * trans-Anethole * Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil * Anise * Anise Star, Extract and Oils * Anisyl Acetate * Anisyl Alcohol * Anisyl Formate * Anisyl Phenylacetate * Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins * Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate * 1-Arginine * Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil * Ascorbic Acid * 1-Asparagine Monohydrate * 1-Aspartic Acid * Balsam Peru and Oil * Basil Oil * Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil * Beeswax White * Beet Juice Concentrate * Benzaldehyde * Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal * Benzoic Acid, Benzoin * Benzoin Resin * Benzophenone * Benzyl Alcohol * Benzyl Benzoate * Benzyl Butyrate * Benzyl Cinnamate * Benzyl Propionate * Benzyl Salicylate * Bergamot Oil * Bisabolene * Black Currant Buds Absolute * Borneol * Bornyl Acetate * Buchu Leaf Oil * 1,3-Butanediol * 2,3-Butanedione * 1-Butanol * 2-Butanone * 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One * Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil * Butyl Acetate * Butyl Butyrate * Butyl Butyryl Lactate * Butyl Isovalerate * Butyl Phenylacetate * Butyl Undecylenate * 3-Butylidenephthalide * Butyric Acid] * Cadinene * Caffeine * Calcium Carbonate * Camphene * Cananga Oil * Capsicum Oleoresin * Caramel Color * Caraway Oil * Carbon Dioxide * Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder * Carob Bean and Extract * beta-Carotene * Carrot Oil * Carvacrol * 4-Carvomenthenol * 1-Carvone * beta-Caryophyllene * beta-Caryophyllene Oxide * Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract * Cassia Bark Oil * Cassie Absolute and Oil * Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute * Cedar Leaf Oil * Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana * Cedrol * Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin * Cellulose Fiber * Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract * Chicory Extract * Chocolate * Cinnamaldehyde * Cinnamic Acid * Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract * Cinnamyl Acetate * Cinnamyl Alcohol * Cinnamyl Cinnamate * Cinnamyl Isovalerate * Cinnamyl Propionate * Citral * Citric Acid * Citronella Oil * dl-Citronellol * Citronellyl Butyrate * itronellyl Isobutyrate * Civet Absolute * Clary Oil * Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract * Cocoa * Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder * Coconut Oil * Coffee * Cognac White and Green Oil * Copaiba Oil * Coriander Extract and Oil * Corn Oil * Corn Silk * Costus Root Oil * Cubeb Oil * Cuminaldehyde * "

that's just a-c

you wanna smoke something to get rid of your headache? smoke some weed. it's alot safer

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 12:58 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2005 12:55:01 PM

^^Haha, actually I used to dip before I started smoking. Then there was a point where I did both for a while, but I finally got outta that, now I just smoke.

I'm shooting for March 7th as the last day I smoke a cigarette using 0EPII1's method. I'm excited to stop for good, and I thank everybody for the help and suggestions.

Thanks to NCSUownsU and MiniMe_877 for the links on where to buy those toothpicks. I will buying those definitely

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 12:57 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2005 12:56:49 PM

^^lol, good advice for after the cutting back phase

11/10/2005 12:58:17 PM

good luck man

11/10/2005 3:32:41 PM

thanks bud

11/10/2005 3:48:51 PM

Send me a pm and I'll get you my dad's email. He had a lung transplant 7 weeks ago and is moving home tonight...()

Here is is with 24% lung function and unable to do a simple task such as laundry without being out of breath.


And now:


He quit smoking and would likely have some great information to help you

11/10/2005 4:04:11 PM