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11/15/2005 7:26:15 PM

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"a top notch running back"

they don't have a top notch running back. They've got a QB that forces linebackers to spy him.

this isn't a knock on Vick, although I'm not a vick fanboy. Shaun Alexander is a top notch running back, LT it top notch.

11/16/2005 6:30:54 PM

Warrick Dunn isn't a top notch RB?

I wouldn't say he's the best or even comparable, but considering he's third in the league in rushing, I'd say he's a pretty big threat at the very least and has been pretty good both last year and this year.

[Edited on November 16, 2005 at 7:19 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2005 7:19:35 PM

the linebackers being forced to spy vick is a valid argument, but dunn has proven he can be a threat even before he was with the falcons

11/16/2005 7:49:55 PM

One of his linemen just stepped on his leg; didn't look pretty.

11/20/2005 1:33:55 PM

he's got one hell of a stat line going so far today.....lol

11/20/2005 2:04:58 PM

o shit, the charlie frye era has begun in cleveland

11/20/2005 2:10:14 PM

and then it ended.

11/20/2005 2:34:04 PM

he is coming on strong now

11/20/2005 3:40:18 PM

272yds and 2 TDs at this point.

11/20/2005 3:55:26 PM

Well fuck

11/20/2005 4:06:41 PM

Good fumble

11/20/2005 4:06:56 PM

Its only because Dunn knocked the ball out. Not Vicks fault.

11/20/2005 4:07:19 PM

Simms > Vick ?

based only on the MacGyver guide to judging QBs

11/20/2005 4:07:53 PM

it's like when the ground grabs vick's feet and keeps him from running

IT'S NOT VICK'S FAULT

11/20/2005 4:08:18 PM

Michael Vick is about to run this all the way

11/20/2005 4:16:27 PM

See, this is a classic thing showing you stats don't mean shit with Vick. Puts up great stats, and is prolly gonna lose the game. And no, Simms is not better than Vick.

11/20/2005 4:17:54 PM

that was just stupid of the defender

11/20/2005 4:18:10 PM

NICE DROP, RODDY WHITE

[Edited on November 20, 2005 at 4:18 PM. Reason : way to aid in fucking up vick's stats, so we can say he did bad and won]

11/20/2005 4:18:33 PM

at least we didnt have the only shitass announcers

11/20/2005 4:19:21 PM

What are you talking about? He has passed for over 300yds today.

11/20/2005 4:19:45 PM

but he has such low completion percentage!!!!!!!11111

11/20/2005 4:20:12 PM

55yd attempt. I hate the falcons so damn much

11/20/2005 4:21:35 PM

^^^^^That ball was thrown way behind the receiver.

11/20/2005 4:22:38 PM

Vick loses again

11/20/2005 4:26:11 PM

LIGHTNIN DONT STRIKE TWICE FOR ROOKIES

11/20/2005 4:26:45 PM

i give vick props for 300 yards passing today. i didn't see the game as i was too busy watching maddox lose another game for the steelers, so i don't know how much of that was YAC, but it isn't often you see mike vick throw for 300 yards.

this just goes to show that wins are not a quarterback statistic. vick finally produced at the level of a good NFL quarterback, yet his team still lost. it wasn't his fault they lost today, just like it wasn't him that led them to many of their victories this year.

11/20/2005 6:33:47 PM

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" i didn't see the game"

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" it wasn't his fault they lost today"

i agree that no one player wins or loses a football game -- see my comments in the vick/favre thread

but vick's fumble with a minute to go that led to the game-winning field goal didn't help much

11/20/2005 6:58:39 PM

ok my bad, like i said i didn't see the game

i'll retract any judgements about whose fault the loss was today.

11/20/2005 7:16:44 PM

so now favre AND simms > vick

11/21/2005 10:27:41 AM

My favorite part is how Vick bitched about the officiating after the game, despite the fact that they never would have had any chance to tie the game if it weren't for the two questionable penalty calls at the end of the game.

[Edited on November 21, 2005 at 12:56 PM. Reason : .]

11/21/2005 12:55:46 PM

"I don't want nobody criticizin' me"

nigga please

11/21/2005 12:58:25 PM

yo

12/4/2005 3:52:12 PM

w00t

12/4/2005 3:56:19 PM

Sucks to be either Vick this weekend.

12/4/2005 3:58:37 PM

No it doesn't


You get a bunch of hype, money, and press for being a mediocre player


(Okay, Michael is alright... Marcus sucks baws)

12/4/2005 4:04:58 PM

it would suck to be Michael Vick right now because he got beat up by the Carolina Defense. he's going to be really sore tomorrow.

12/4/2005 4:13:29 PM

he is the most over rated piece of shit in the NFL

12/4/2005 4:19:04 PM

Oh yeah Vick is god awful...


who are the better QB's...

Manning, Palmer..... who else?

That interception he threw with 50 seconds left really hurt his team

Atlanta's defense is miserable this year.... Vick cant win every game by himself.

[Edited on December 4, 2005 at 4:23 PM. Reason : a]

12/4/2005 4:22:45 PM

how can you possibly say Michael Vick is more overrated than Daunte Culpepper?

12/4/2005 4:25:03 PM

^^suprised he didn't try to run every play.. move his ass to running backand and stop bitching about getting hit when you scramble.. A QB that scrambles deserves to have their bell rung every once in awhile

[Edited on December 4, 2005 at 4:25 PM. Reason : d]

12/4/2005 4:25:21 PM

perhaps he wouldnt have to scramble every play if he had ANY WR's....

I think Mike Jenkins might be a decent WR some day, but as of now that WR corps is flat out pathetic.

When a defense can take away the run game AND double team your TE and not a single WR can get open.... what exactly do you do?

12/4/2005 4:36:20 PM

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"Oh yeah Vick is god awful... who are the better QB's... Manning, Palmer..... who else?"

I said he was mediocre, I didn't say there were a lot of better QB's

He's good... but with the hype he gets you'd think he was Joe Montana. I'm just sick of hearing about him...and especially Marcus. At least Michael has done some things to garner that attention

12/4/2005 4:38:44 PM

^^You get a quarterback who doesn't throw the ball 15 feet over his recievers heads.

12/4/2005 4:40:40 PM

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"Manning, Palmer..... who else?"

wait are you serious?

Jake Plummer, brad johnson, matt hasselbeck, to name a few. I can name more if you want.

12/4/2005 4:52:17 PM

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"who are the better QB's... Manning, Palmer..... who else?"

Going into this weekend, all of these guys statistically:

1 Carson Palmer
2 Peyton Manning
3 Ben Roethlisberger
4 Marc Bulger
5 Jake Plummer
6 Drew Brees
7 Drew Bledsoe
8 Tom Brady
9 Byron Leftwich
10 Matt Hasselbeck
11 Trent Green
12 Jake Delhomme
13 Mark Brunell
14 Kurt Warner
15 Donovan McNabb
16 Steve McNair

12/4/2005 5:01:26 PM

Hehe...

you didn't just say Mark Brunell did you

12/4/2005 5:03:13 PM

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"That interception he threw with 50 seconds left really hurt his team"

It sure didn't help them much either

12/4/2005 5:03:23 PM

what happened to that dude who was all about "great QB's make the plays to win the game for their team" and "all that matters is wins." Where's he now?

12/4/2005 5:07:22 PM

brunell has 15 TD's and 5 picks. pretty freakin good.

edit: not to mention he has done that in just 11 games.

[Edited on December 4, 2005 at 5:07 PM. Reason : .]

12/4/2005 5:07:27 PM