Observe the magic of knowing what the fuck you're actually doing...

(actual maple output)

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" > evalf(e); e (note that maple does what you told it to, but since e is not defined by default, so you're free to use it as a variable or function if you want, you have actually not really told it to do anything) > e := exp(1); e := exp(1) (long way of doing it) > evalf(e); 2.718281828 > evalf(exp(1)); 2.718281828 (fast way of doing it once you actually READ THE DAMN HELP FILES and notice that it lists "exp(1)" among fundamental constants with regards to "evalf"... but not the letter "e") > "

You will note a similar thing happens if you use "pi" instead of "Pi." In maple the "pi" is just the letter pi, while "Pi" is the fundamental constant and defined as 3.14...... You'll be amazed to see that if you define "pi" as "Pi" magical things also happen.

^meh, there's probably no point arguing with this guy. He's probably never going to just admit he didn't know what he was doing, got frustrated, and blamed maple for his inability to read.


[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 2:06 PM. Reason : ]

11/30/2005 1:51:31 PM

ahahha

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"Major : Computer Science"

good luck with that buddy

GOOD FUCKING LUCK

11/30/2005 3:51:23 PM

i use maple to solve big non-linear systems with the fsolve function. that's pretty helpful. but it can be really finicky with what it will solve and what it won't. often have to reduce the number of equations by hand until it's simple enough for maple to solve. and sometimes it seems if i breathe on the computer in a slightly different way, it will give a different answer. but yeah maple is helpful, if occasionally counter-intuitive. that and the original poster guy is not too bright.

11/30/2005 4:07:20 PM

you guys are funny...

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"Ernie: OH so maple 'produced' this erroneous function, evalf(e) that makes sense dude just man up and say you fucked up"

Are you genuinely this stupid, or do you have to make an effort at it?

Let's use a little common sense here: I'm actually using Maple, so clearly this is for a class of some kind (in this case Calc III). What purpose would I have for evaluating e by itself? Do you think it's common for class Maple assignments to go "What is the value of e to n digits?"

You and Charybdisjim can take English lessons from MathFreak together...

[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 4:30 PM. Reason : http://www.english-at-home.com/]

11/30/2005 4:26:58 PM

Quote :

"hahahaha, you think "tech support" writes the program."

11/30/2005 4:30:26 PM

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"evalf(exp(1));"

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"^ yeah that's how I finally did it."

seriously though

if you're this baffled by syntax using maple you need to get the fuck out of the computer science department

[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 4:51 PM. Reason : ]

11/30/2005 4:49:38 PM

Nobody actually thinks all your problem was was "evalf(exp(1))." however, if you weren't a moron, you'd realize that the problems with entering "evalf(e)" extend to "evalf(some function where you stupidly put e instead of exp(1)) and result the same kind of unwanted output. you're still asking maple to evaluate something with something as yet undefined in it.

We understand why what you did was wrong and stupid, it's amazing that you still don't. You will fail out of college again; you know that don't you? I mean you can't possibly have this much trouble understanding that you can't force incorrect syntax down something's throat and bitch about how it must be broken and think you can actually graduate.


[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 5:00 PM. Reason : ]

11/30/2005 4:56:17 PM

ditto

11/30/2005 4:57:22 PM

^^
not to repeat myself, but...

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"TGD: By the way, you do realize that when you evaluate a function without typing it (like, say, when it's produced by Maple itself), and don't define what e is, the letter e is seen as a constant right? This is neither strange nor surprising to anyone who's used a ti-89, webassign, or maple. You write that and call someone else an incompetent moron? Give it a rest."

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"Charybdisjim: You will fail out of college again; you know that don't you?"

OMF really??? For some reason my GPA didn't get the memo...

[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 5:08 PM. Reason : ---]

11/30/2005 5:07:13 PM

[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 5:23 PM. Reason : Not worth it, he's too dense.]

11/30/2005 5:13:59 PM

what do you mean 'when it's produced by Maple itself'

11/30/2005 5:45:04 PM

maple is fun to fiddle around with if you've got a good grasp of the commands and all that but even most of the shit that calc III folks do is turn into a graphical representation what any $15 scientific calc would do just a quickly and without multiple alt-function commands
and the thing is after calculus it seems many advanced courses all but openly discourage this kind of graphic visualization as the subject matter gets more and more abstract.
It is certainly a tool that is rarely used for what it does best, and with the way that most institutions structure their teaching methods throughout a department (or rather fail to structure them) maple is rendered all but useless and in some cases just a stumbling stone for all but the most advanced and graduate level students who somehow have learned to make it a practical tool. I personally would have been much better off if i could have taken an entire semester or two dedicated solely to the tools i would be asked to use.

11/30/2005 9:32:46 PM