He's the only reason we didn't lose by a bazillion last night.

(Bennerman gets honorable mention as well)

3/11/2006 1:49:23 PM

Brackman has been impressive as of late!!!!!!11111

3/11/2006 1:50:04 PM

haha i guess we shouldve given Brackman more credit last year for being able to play basketball and baseball both well...he hasnt been pitching great or playing basketball great over the last couple weeks

3/11/2006 1:54:34 PM

^^ON TEH FUCKING MOUND


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3/11/2006 1:54:56 PM

i wish ced would start playing without taking morphine before the game

3/11/2006 1:59:18 PM

^^Not really...

3/11/2006 2:00:29 PM

Eh, well he's got to be doing better there than on the court

3/11/2006 2:00:55 PM

Check out http://gopack.collegesports.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2005-2006/st13.html for an example.

The performance against UCLA was worse.

3/11/2006 2:08:00 PM

Yikes.


I retract my previous statement

3/11/2006 2:10:07 PM

it is stupid for you to use his recent performances to try to counterract his early performances and get people to eat their words

i, for one, think gavin has been GREAT the last two games and good enough the last 4 or 5, but before that he was a severe liability on both ends of the court and i stand by that.

3/11/2006 2:12:06 PM

id' be terribly surprised if brackplays basketball net year.

3/11/2006 3:38:39 PM

^^yeah but i can at least say i was with him from the get go

3/11/2006 3:43:33 PM

I like brackman and all, but he should honestly pick up baseball next year. While his getting "blasted" by UCLA hopefully does not hurt his stock, I'd rather he pursue a successful baseball career than jepordize it by playing bball.

3/11/2006 3:46:04 PM

Last year Brackman didn't pitch until the basketball season was over, this year he decided to start pitching during basketball season. That is probably why he's not doing well in either, trying to do a balancing act and failing miserably at both.

3/11/2006 3:48:08 PM

hopefully brackman will not play basketball next year, he's a complete waste of playing time and a basketball scholarship

3/11/2006 4:11:51 PM

ouch

3/11/2006 4:13:24 PM

truth hurts

3/11/2006 5:47:32 PM

but truth is truth

3/11/2006 5:49:03 PM

yeah, i absolutely could not stand gavin for all this season, and probably the second half of last season. but these last two games have really changed the way i feel about him. it isn't the fact that he finally had a couple of good games, really. it's the fact that he is playing with heart and passion when it seems like very few others are.

the fact that a broken nose didn't stop him makes it even more amazing. he isn't all of a sudden some awesome player now, but i am very encouraged by these two performances. hopefully he can gain some confidence from them and become a more dominant force and step into the role bennerman is leaving next year.

3/11/2006 5:53:32 PM

i really don't see why fells didn't get more playing time this year especially when grant was playing badly. i wonder what fells could do if he was on the court for more than 2 seconds.

3/11/2006 8:38:29 PM

^Hence, the FIRE HERB talk.


Everyone feels that way about him. He has really been fun to watch for the few minutes he gets in.

3/11/2006 8:44:56 PM

maybe brandon costner will be healthy next year cuz i'd really like to see if he can live up to the hype around him being a McDonald's all american and all. a big forward who can hit 3's would be perfect for the way herb wants to play.

3/11/2006 8:48:56 PM

Our forwards have been abused, this year. Losing hodge created a huge drop off at that position.

3/11/2006 9:01:16 PM

Fells is good, but he is very inconsistent

I can sort of understand why Herb would keep him out some

3/11/2006 9:02:22 PM

How the fuck can you say he's inconsistent when he DOESNT PLAY???????????????


He cant play any worse than Gavin did for the first 25 games.

3/11/2006 9:06:15 PM

Fundamentally, a good coach shouldn't leave incredible athletes on the bench. Fells might have a weakness, but a good coach finds a way to hedge against the weakness and exploit the athleticism. The same could have been said for bennerman his first 3 years, scooter sherrill, etc. But herb isn't really that good at developing talent, so he's not going to figure out how to maximize a player's strength.

Even if you take your lumps with fells early, it pays greater dividends earlier than playing atsur or evtimov all the time.

[Edited on March 11, 2006 at 9:14 PM. Reason : sdf]

3/11/2006 9:13:02 PM

a lot of the problem with cam and scooter was they weren't putting forth the effort to improve their weaknesses. herb sat them until they showed effort in improving, then they played. and what do you know, they became good defenders.

3/11/2006 9:23:30 PM

^That's herb's way of developing players -- wait 3 years for them to get desperate and improve themselves.

That's not the only way to develop players nor is it the best way. I can see why herb is so adamant about defense, though. He is not confident that our offense can put up points, so he has to hedge against that by playing lock down defense.

Other coaches are willing to make this trade off between offense and defense because they aren't shackled to unproductive offensive systems, and they are better for it.

[Edited on March 11, 2006 at 9:32 PM. Reason : sdf]

3/11/2006 9:31:45 PM

Quote :

"Fundamentally, a good coach shouldn't leave incredible athletes on the bench. Fells might have a weakness, but a good coach finds a way to hedge against the weakness and exploit the athleticism."

Not trying to be rude, but I highly doubt that you know anything about being a good college coach. First of all, Sendek has done more than enough to earn more respect from the student body. He is definately a "good coach" and more of that to boot.

At carolina, the athletes get good playing time. But Roy plays athletes because that is his system. Are you saying that Hamilton must play Echefu just because he is an exceptional athelete?

If you look back a couple of seasons ago, Julius Hodge came in as a freshman and tore it up because he had the skill and the savy right away. But at this point, I don't think that Fells has the savy to play in the ACC. Trust me, I went to all of the early season games and Fells had his chances to earn playing time, but he was not productive. If he could not play against guys from guelph, New Hampshire, or Mount Olive at that point in his career, than maybe he just was not ready for play time in the ACC this season.


[Edited on March 11, 2006 at 9:43 PM. Reason : peace out y'all, going to East Village]

3/11/2006 9:40:22 PM

1. First of all, no one trusts, you. People aren't going to agree with you because we trust you.
2. Sendek is an average coach who produces average results, at best. Compare him to his peers -- long time coaches at major D1 schools.
3. Your statement about roy's system is exactly the point -- his system is designed to exploit athleticism. What you don't seem to get is that exploiting athleticism in any kind of athletic activity is the best way to win at the highest levels. If you have an athlete that comes in with athleticism, it's your holy duty to give him experience so that he can pay big dividends early.
4. So fells played poorly because he didn't have experience. Guess how he gets that? You can't say that he will never develop the saavy based on a few garbage minutes early in his career. That's just stupid.
5. It's not a crime to beat a team using athleticism alone (versus using style or finesse).

You can think of athletic players as investments. You can invest conservatively as herb does, and wait 3 years for them to get good, or you can take risks early in order to make them better earlier.


An lets be clear what we are talking about, here -- we are only talking about 8-10 minutes of playing new players during the non conference schedule and maybe 5 mins during conference play. It's not like we want fells to play 20+ for the season.

[Edited on March 11, 2006 at 9:57 PM. Reason : sdf]

3/11/2006 9:52:19 PM

Quote :

"Not trying to be rude, but I highly doubt that you know anything about being a good college coach. "

And you do, so therefore you're allowed to make comments about our team, and we're not....ok....you're just retarded. And yes, I'm trying to be rude.

And BTW, I saw most of the early season games too. I was incredibly impressed with our depth and though Fells could only get better if he was on the floor, because he just looked like he felt out of place.

And guess what....none of them played a damn bit in the first big game...against ND. And none of them played a damn bit against Iowa, or Alabama. I dont think they deserved to sit the bench behind fucking Gavin Grant for most of the season. McCauley was the worst I thought, and he's getting the most minutes between the 2 of them. (I know costner got hurt).

I would have given a fuck less if we had lost one or two more early season big games....maybe against GW or Alabama if we had given the freshbabies some PT. It would have only helped our depth in the ACC and I guarantee we wouldnt have just lost 4 straight games. Our top 7 was physically and mentally fatigued, and it showed.




^Personally, I think that if we had given fells 10 minutes a game for the entire season, he would be playing 20 by now. I dont think those 5 great minutes he had against FSU were a fluke. Nobody who isnt ready for ACC play comes off the bench and lights it up like that.

[Edited on March 11, 2006 at 10:16 PM. Reason : ]

3/11/2006 10:10:45 PM

Quote :

"And you do, so therefore you're allowed to make comments about our team, and we're not....ok....you're just retarded."

Haha, you are absolutely right, I don't know what it takes to be a good coach, but I am not on this board boasting about what good college coaches "should" do. I am just smart enough to realize that a man coaching an ACC school knows infantely more about the sport than a student.

3/12/2006 2:10:31 PM

then shut the fuck up, cause you dont know enough to say we're wrong either


its an opinion, so get off your high and mighty kick and gtfo

3/12/2006 4:41:17 PM

^^ damn, wolfAApack just shot you the fuck down

3/12/2006 6:23:49 PM

no he did not

Is it common to argue with people just because they dissagree?

3/12/2006 9:28:02 PM

Quote :

"You can think of athletic players as investments. "

1 year investments like Marvin Williams...wouldnt it have been great if Fells averaged 28ppg had a great ACC tourney run so he could leave after one year

3/13/2006 10:16:33 AM

I wouldn't care if he got a NCAAT championship.

3/13/2006 10:23:55 AM

yeah i guess a national title would be worth it...still at this point in his career he's no carmelo or a freshman good enough to lead the team to a national title

or maybe he is, we will see starting friday at 7:20

3/13/2006 10:26:34 AM

Grant will make the all-acc team next year...I can safely say

at least honorable mention

3/13/2006 11:11:34 AM

Grant is the only one acting like he wants to play...

3/13/2006 11:12:43 AM