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"Atsur was the worst. He was the biggest negative. If you wanted to improve out play by taking out a player in that game, he is the one you would have taken out."

I agree with skokiaan 100%. I know A LOT of you were not there for the Seton Hall game, but it was worse then. Atsur has played like total shit the last two home games. Some of you shitheads don't even come to the games and then come on here and bitch.

I know Atsur is trying his best and I applaud him for that, but he makes some boneheaded plays.

^I agree with that too. Grant has NBA potential and just needs to calm down on offense and develop an outside shot. Grant plays Defense as well as anybody on our team. IMHO he is our BEST rebounder. He averages 5 a game and only plays 20 minutes, sometimes not that.

2/2/2006 2:08:23 PM

I want to know where the whinners are with regards to bethel

pwnt

2/2/2006 2:27:52 PM

just to prove grant sucks...

check out these statistics...

Grant: 21.5 Mins/g; 55 Assists-48 TURNOVERS, which leads the team.

now Atsur...

32.5 mins/g (11 more than gavin); 85 assists-41 TURNOVERS, also, better FG and FT percentage for Atsur,

so all you gavin grant loving fuckers who want to criticize Atsur, criticize ya boy grant first

k, thnx

[Edited on February 2, 2006 at 2:33 PM. Reason : god damn bold]

2/2/2006 2:32:54 PM

^There aren't defensive stats for getting blow by the most. Shawon Robinson made Atsur his bitch scoring 22. The little point guard from Seton Hall Copeland dropped 22 on him. Gavin is a wayyyyyy better defender though.

2/2/2006 2:39:36 PM

^^ For a while this year Atsur had the best Assist/TO ratio in the ACC. He is still above 2 which is solid. Sure he makes some bad plays, especially at the end of close games, but he is a hell of alot better PG/SG than what we had in the past ten years (Ishua Benjamin, Justin Gainey, Cliff Crawford, Archie Miller, etc). Atsur is much smarter and better all around player than any of those guys.

^ You act as if Shawna Robinson is some bitch ass scrub. Dude has over 1000 points in his career. Atsur isn't the first player to let him score. Atsur is not Ron Artest on defense, but cut him some slack


[Edited on February 2, 2006 at 2:44 PM. Reason : er]

2/2/2006 2:40:50 PM

hey i like both atsur and grant,,, figure that???????? i support my whole team, yessssssssss

2/2/2006 2:48:32 PM

^Everbody in this thread supports our whole team. I think the point that me and skokiaan are trying to get across is:

The last 5 mintues of a game Atsur is usually a choke artist. Last night however was different. He came up with the biggest shot of the night making those 3s butttttt....If that shot by Singeltary goes in and we lose...ALL of you bastards would be blaming Atsur for missing what should have been 2 free throws to put the game away.

2/2/2006 2:54:04 PM

Grant should have had like 7 more assists last night than he wound up with.

2/2/2006 2:56:58 PM

another shitty game. A few hustle plays at key points, but doesnt make up for about 7 turnovers/bad shots in the first half. Grant outplayed him in the first half, thats for sure (grant's offensive rebounding was huge against MD).

Im thinking we should only play him for the first 15 mins of the second half.

Lastly, wtf is wrong with atsur's brain at the end of a game??? Tried his best to foul mike jones' last 3 pointer.

2/5/2006 4:50:19 PM

hopefully this slump will end on the night of the Carolina game

2/5/2006 4:52:17 PM

at least carolina's guards are white.

2/5/2006 4:53:41 PM

19 pts and 8 assists and 3 steals with him getting 8 points in the final 16-0 run by the pack.

Yea Engin really sucks in the last five minutes doesnt he? A real key player for the pack tonight. And Fells was looking good in the few minutes he played as well. Sucks that Evtimov may be out for a while.

[Edited on February 15, 2006 at 10:51 PM. Reason : .]

2/15/2006 10:51:34 PM

faggots on espn have his name misspelled on the ticker. It is not Astur or Etsur or Ester damn it

2/15/2006 11:08:52 PM

^haha, i noticed that too

2/16/2006 12:46:47 AM

sportscenter calls him enginE

2/16/2006 12:58:57 AM

what exactly happened with his technical tonight?


I remember watching him after that call and noticing he didn't get too pissed, but then he got the technical. Obviously I missed something

What did he say or do?

2/16/2006 1:01:15 AM

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"And Fells was looking good in the few minutes he played as well."

ARE YOU SERIOUS? It looked like the same shit from all the mop up time he got earlier in the year. He is lost on offense, decent on defense, but overall just isn't ready for ACC play. I think he's very nervous when he is out there.

Oh yeah nice airball too, that shot might be the worst shot Ive ever seen someone take in person, it was like 10 foot off.

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Quote :

"19 pts and 8 assists and 3 steals with him getting 8 points in the final 16-0 run by the pack."

That run was to end the first half dude. I mean it really shows how clutch you are when your team is up by 20 with 3 minutes to go.

[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 2:06 AM. Reason : EDIT]

2/16/2006 2:04:29 AM

more points than minutes is a good outing and a steal. the airball can be forgiven since he has gotten zero time.


It's about time atsur showed up. What's his average -- 1.5 out of every 5 games? That's slightly better than evtimov's 1 out of 5.

2/16/2006 2:06:35 AM

Grant or Atsur fuck up and they catch hell

Fells fucks up and it's excused just because he's off the bench...

2/16/2006 7:26:37 AM

and that's obviously because fells sucks, and not because he's inexperienced.


fucking retards.

2/16/2006 8:29:00 AM

go back to Turkey

2/16/2006 11:20:46 AM

Fells will be good next year, and its exciting to see him play this season cause he needs the p.t.

2/16/2006 11:26:05 AM

Quote :

"what exactly happened with his technical tonight?"

the ref gave him a technical because he waved his hand after getting called for a foul, it was bullshit

and yes I was serious about Fells, he sparked some life back into our team and helped us get a good lead goin into the half. anyone who was there could see that, thats why he got such a good cheer from the croud.

Quote :

"That run was to end the first half dude."

yea thats what I meant, haha

[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2006 12:39:58 PM

atsur is one of the most under-rated guards in the ACC

annoucers have said before that he is the measuring stick for our team's success, and I agree.

2/16/2006 12:50:48 PM

hopefully gavin grant takes over his duties.

3/18/2006 11:23:17 AM

atsur's been pretty quiet since that 1st wake game........hope he's aight

3/18/2006 12:32:16 PM

"been quiet" = "sucks"

He has physical limitations that prevent him from being good in many situations.

3/18/2006 12:33:49 PM